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Blitzing C3 Combat Sites (Fine tuning)
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Iti Ure
Open All Hours Trading
#1 - 2017-05-26 04:10:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Iti Ure
Hi all,

I live in a C3 / NS and am trying to find a way to run my Combat Sites as fast as possible.

I currently run 2x Rattlesnakes w/ Active Tank (Gecko + RHML), solo fits. Each Rattlesnakes puts out 1100 DPS and a 800 TANK.

I have used dual Snakes in a Tinker Fit, but find that the Dual Solo fits seem to put out more DPS and clear sites quicker. The Tinker fits took me approx 10 - 11 mins a site.

From landing in a site and leaving a site takes 8 - 9 mins, generally the last 1 minute is waiting for the Mobile Tractor Beam to bring in the last wreck.

Before I start site running the WH is checked, I close all other WH and put a ALT on my static. So I feel relatively secure running them. Any new SIGS that appear, I MJD and Cloak, scan down the new sig and continue.

They way I see it is I have 3 options:

OPTION 1
Keep my standard 2 ship setup, its only a 800m (400m each Snake) on the grid at one time. I know this is the best I can get.

OPTION 2
Run a Marauder on a single character and have the other as FALCON, but thats 1.1B on the field and an issue with bastion mode. And I'm not sure it would be faster.

OPTION 3
Run a Dread (I'd have to make in the WH), but thats 1.6B and is useless without support fleet if I get jumped + storing it puts a big target on my back.

NOTE:
I have an Astrahaus, do no docking caps.

I could possibly BUY a Dread pilot, leave him logged off till I need him? Buts that alot of ISK and a toon not being used all the time.

Your thoughts?
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2017-05-26 04:34:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
2x marauder will certainly be faster, 1x marauder probably not for a C3.
Dread for C3s is a silly idea.

As a general rule, drones/missiles are never gonna be as efficient at PVE with the same DPS output as turrets due to application lag, often there's a pretty significant difference.

If you're set on snakes, certainly zero point tinker tanking them since the C3 DPS output of sites is very low and a snake can local tank it just fine so just gank fit them.

I have no idea what your budget is (given your quoted value, I'm assuming a T2 fit which is certainly far from optimal on a snake) but it's not too hard to get another 300 odd DPS out of a snake. Something like this might be your best bet:

Quote:
[Rattlesnake, TEST]

Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Damage Control II

Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Pith C-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
Imperial Navy Cap Recharger
Imperial Navy Cap Recharger
Target Painter II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Gecko x1

Will tank any C3 anom solo and 2 should clear the data/relic sites easy too.
Gets 1380odd DPS (1500 with fury), 1630 with RHM launchers instead, more with implants which you may well want to use.

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Mixery82
Friends Of Harassment
#3 - 2017-06-02 17:39:36 UTC
First thing is dont wait for the Tractor unti! Come back later in a fast ship and collect them. Do this ones per hour and your risk of losing money is not more then 150-200 mil.

Last time I did C3 anos in 2 Nightemares and a Basilisk. The times where 6-8 mins from warp to warp and the setup was really cheap.
But to be honest to do this efficient you have to make a lot of clicks and the money is not really that much.

So I am back in C4 and C5 farming.

Regards
Mixery
Salvos Rhoska
#4 - 2017-06-08 09:41:12 UTC
A better MTU would shave off some of your waiting time.

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