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It actually explains the price hike of injectors.. as with PLEX when the new PLEX was announced. There is obvious insider trading going on in game

And yes, the comment about the market being stable after the introduction of the new PLEX is just layghable or is a huge tell on what CCP intends to achieve here..

That is such an epic, simple, and fitting idea.

Is this something we should care about?


I am currently a tad preoccupied auspiciously illuding myself that I'm playing a good game...


I shall not be partaking in this tomfoolery, but hey-ho whatever floats yer boat. May it bring you many monies to keep up your fine works.

plex price going up clearly has nothing to do with that, which directly increase extractor costs, and sp farmers are clearly in it to lose money so they will sell their sp for the same price even after all their costs go up

After 12 years of this game...

CCP = Greedy bastards!

**** you CCP!

What is with the insane amount of hate going on in this thread? I can think of tons of uses for mini skill injectors, not the least of which is filling in skills that were forgotten overtime (thermodynamics, sensor compensation, social skills - pun intended). Also, I'm not a massive expert on the markets, but shouldn't the value of small skill injectors balance out at lower than 1/5 of the full one? Else people would be able to create an endless cycle of quick profit.

I could see how some may think the price of large skill injectors would increase, but if you ever took economics you should know that as long as supply can keep up with demand, a higher demand will NOT equal an increase in price, because the act of increasing price in turn reduces demand. And there is no shortage of SP farmers at the moment.

And finally, to those saying "Eve is Pay to Win!" No, it isn't. Go plex into a titan and be sure to show us the hilarious KM when you lose it. If anything this change moves away from "Plex for SP" model, because it'll allow people to inject SP at costs that are no longer comparable to Plex packages.

Could be as a chance to get from salvaging a T3C wreck instead too.

Not hate, distrust. It reminds too many people of other places like ST:O, Shallow MT, shallow behaviour. With EVE's strengths deriving from entirely different behavioural dynamics it's only natural that the strict mechanical and commercial focus is regarded with, well, distrust. CCP has come a long way in the past years, but their track record has a tendency to go overboard in a given or chosen focus.

As a practical example, that idea suggested earlier of T3 kills dropping the lost skills as micro injectors fits perfectly in the behavioural approach of storytelling and overcompensating for being (behind the) pixels. Yet what we see is (again) the strict mechanical approach which sidesteps the original (succesful) baseline emergent dynamic principles of functionality (and growth), which are extremely vulnerable to some of EVE's (other behaviourally determined) keys: patience, economics of scale, etc.

So yeah, I can understand the distrust. I can also understand CCP's motivations, but they are cutting it close. This is not something one can keep a finger on the pulse of with mere sql queries and statistics. The irony is that (by now quite a few) years ago an icelandic student produced a thesis on this exact kind of thing. While it wasn't particularly briliiant, it did emphasise some interesting ripple effects of sidestepping operational growth requirements rooted in behavioural rather than mechanical psychology. Back then CCP (rightfully) waved it around as awesome, but it seems they have forgotten it :P

We already crossed the line and left it far behind ... and the game still lives. The amount of your char's SP is determined just by your wallet or the ability to make ingame ISK, the connection to time was cut the moment skill injectors were introduced.

WOW just WOW. Why would someone who has invested in creating a 500k SP package (extractors aren't being split so 500K is the minimum) then split it up and sell it cheaper than they would get selling it as a whole? When have you ever seen a lesser amount of any consumable cheaper than buying in bulk? As you said, you are no expert on how market works or the local supermarket it seems.

100K SP packages WILL cost more per SP than it does now.


" if you ever took economics" - LOL, before posting things like this, go take a look at the plex market - 200K increase over 3 days, 500K increase over the last few months - Demand is the same, supply is the same, why then has the price gone up so much.

As for SP farmers - SP farming is not worth it right now as you fall short of plexing the account by roughly 300 mil, forget any sort of profit from it (which after all is why SP farmers farm, no point doing it if you can't make a profit). You need to get at least 460 mil return from each injector just to plex the account, currently with prices as they are you're getting around 380 mil = Many Plex farmers won't continue until prices turn around, which will in the meantime force prices for injectors up even more as demand outstrips supply. That is pure economics of supply and demand.

Oh and just as an aside - [quote I can think of tons of uses for mini skill injectors, not the least of which is filling in skills that were forgotten overtime][/quote]Thermodynamics is a rank 3 skill, just over 600K SP from lvl 4 to lvl 5 - Just how is that going to be cheaper to do with mini injectors. Presuming you have over 5 mil but less than 50 mil SP, you will get 80K per injector which adds up to 8 mini injectors.