EVE General Discussion

Something confuses me about the Orca. It's clearly a terrific mining platform, and since the rebalance is a hellbeast of a ship for a sort of mobile base.

All of these things are great and really work in the game from what I've seen; the changes to the mining foreman role to actually include active participation in the mining fleet was a terrific change and long overdue.

The thing that confuses me with the orca is that it seems to be a weird cap/subcap hybrid thing. Points:

It requires Capital Ship Parts to build it in the BPO
It gets a huge jump fatigue reduction in line with BOPS and JF's
Even packed it won't fit in a jump freighter - it only packs down to some 500k m3

All of these point toward a capital ship but:

It doesn't require capital ship skills to fly
It doesn't have an in-built jump drive

Is there any particular reason why it's stuck somewhere in the middle? All of the sub-caps that I'm aware of can pack down and be transported in a freighter except the Orca, whereas moving the Orca around is a logistical nightmare as it sits smack in the middle. It's not a cap ship so no jump drive, and you can't pack it down to fit in a jump freighter. Ironically enough, you can pack down a station the size of a city (medium and large citadels) to easily go inside a Jump Freighter, but ships won't pack down that small. I guess the point I'm making is in light of the fact that a fortizar takes up a mere 80k m3, is it time to look at a pass on all ships volumes when packed?

I mean a single battleship takes up 50k m3 packed and transport ships are 20k m3 packed. Why is the orca SO much bigger than all the other subcap ships? Hell why is a fortizar so small when packed?

All hauling ships, regardless of size, get a Fatigue reduction. So I think you're confusing how certain attributes relate to ships.

And I reckon you could fit one in a cargo-expanded freighter quite easily.

Orca used to be in the section of capital industrial ships until rebalance a couple of years ago. It was then moved to the group of the industríal command ships in the industrial ship section.

Definite sign that the Orca never really was a capital ship is the rig size. The Orca has always only had large rigs.

Fatigue reduction is for using jump bridges

Magnets. [Nobody knows how they work.]

Nanites.

Planck field generator.

Flat-space technology

It is bigger on the inside.

It is smaller on the outside.

The cargo handlers have stolen Gru's shrink ray.

Why is a hummer M3 so big? same reason. because they can.