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Just fuel and pg

I think I can answer that.

Thukker bonuses are there to make lowsec a competetive place to build capitals in to rival the nullsec bonuses to ore reprocessing and material efficiency rigs.

Hyasyoda Research Lab is nothing but a better research lab, and not in the game for any specific balance reason, my guess is they want to tone down how good this module is. But in the end it does feel like it's very underwhelming. The PG bonus is barely worth anything. -8.3% fuel consumption is something in the ballpark of 10 million saved in fuel a month, not insignificant but also not really worth the faction/story-line tag, perhaps double it to -16.6%?

This means the existing modules won't get converted?
And all the modules i bought are nearly worthless?

so all it does is use less fuel and PG now?

no bonus to ME or TE research speed?

thats.. underwhelming.

Hyasyoda Labs currently aren't built and are not reprocessable, what do you mean by more materials?

CCP Fozzie, do you expect the ISK reward for selling one of the lab BPCs to give be in synch with the other Epic Arc rewards? If yes all good from my point of view if not then can you look at changing the line to add a bonus ISK for the last mission or something like that.

You have got an Azbel running hundreds of jobs?

Check it out on Sisi :)

The module will be avaialable soon!

A BPC for the lab will drop.
Existing labs can be reprocessed and will "generate" a data chip?
why is it that complicated?

I do not get any BPC or data chip for any reprocessed faction item in EVE.

Keep it simple....

Hyasyoda Research Lab BPCs will be converted to new BPCs.

Reimburst all packed / unpacked / assembled / used / in Jita laying "Hyasyoda Research Labs" by a BPC of the new module
and adjust the recycling material to the same of the T1 version of the modul.

Thanks for the comments and feedback so far everyone.

The reasoning for switching the bonuses over to a PWG and fuel reduction is that a speed increase on a service module like this that can be used in any area of space and with any blueprint type would simply be too powerful. We already provide extremely strong research bonuses through ECs and rigs and adding a bonus from the service module (which would quickly become something people would feel they need in order to compete) would be too much.

After reading through the feedback so far we do agree that the bonuses could use a bit more strength, so we are now planning on doubling the Hyasyoda lab fuel reduction bonus to -16.7%.


The phrasing here was a copy paste error from the other thread, good catch.
We are adding reprocessing outputs to the existing Hyasyoda Labs so that in addition to the data chips they will provide most of the base materials of a standard Research Lab. This is intended as another light incentive for players to start phasing down their use of these structures and moving their operations over to Upwell structure.


The more focused nature of the Thukker Component Array bonuses (only working on capital parts) lended itself well to being converted to rigs in the new system. The more general use of the Hyasyoda Lab would have been a problem with trying to turn it into rigs.


The current plan is for this system to support hot-swapping. If you install the second service module (so that you temporarily have both the old Standup Research Lab I and the new Standup Hyasyoda Research Lab running at the same time) and then remove the old service module, the jobs will continue as normal.
This hot-swap functionality should be working now but since there are so many potential use cases we'd appreciate testing of this on SISI on your own structures once we seed the new service module (should be in the coming days).