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Plex Bounty on Diana Kim

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Halcyon Ember
Repracor Industries
#81 - 2017-05-10 13:49:58 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
I'm just trying to figure out what the changes to QE-He-4 have to do with this, unless Diana's claiming his bounty is now worth far less, and he was somehow planning that.

Or perhaps Diana is simply complaining that her cold dead body is now valued significantly lower than previously.

Queen of Chocolate

Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#82 - 2017-05-10 14:51:33 UTC
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
Ronin, you are not looking for people to "duel" Kim. You want people to murder Kim. . .
You want to hurt her? Engage in asset and mobility denial. Find a dozen or so friends, find what station she's sleeping in and kill every ship she undocks. You will lose your ships to station defense grids and/or CONCORD (another thorn in the concept of dueling). But if you fly cheap and deadly and hurt her financial ability to fight, you will have a greater effect. But it's a long road.
He does not want this, he wants to posture by flashing ISK.

If he wanted her dead he would pay people with experience doing so to do it. Instead he has used pathetic excuses to remove all canidates who are both willing and capable from the pool of eligibility.

If no one capable or willing can collect the reward then he has a nice safe place to posture from, free of risk that he will have to pay out the ISK he promised.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Maria Daphiti
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#83 - 2017-05-10 14:53:35 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Yeah, but it's not like he can't just adjust the bounty. I mean heck, he could granulate it now: each corpse is worth 50 of the new chips.

I'm sure he'll need time to consider what this means and what, in the light of how much he's had to pay out so far, the appropriate incentiviization would be.


Don't disagree! But he's had plenty of time to offer to do so but his only response was to call me names!
Arrendis
TK Corp
#84 - 2017-05-10 15:13:42 UTC
Ayallah wrote:
free of risk that he will have to pay out the ISK he promised.


Well, maybe he just doesn't want to get scammed by honorless liars and thieves who don't follow through with their promises?
Arrendis
TK Corp
#85 - 2017-05-10 15:16:47 UTC
Maria Daphiti wrote:
Don't disagree! But he's had plenty of time to offer to do so but his only response was to call me names!


Yeah, but it's Ronin. He's the same guy who blatantly advertized a 'let's kill the Empress at the coronation' fleet, then when he got mocked for the pointlessness of it, hastily backpedalled and repurposed it into 'WE TOTALLY HAVE INTEL ON DRIFTER MOVEMENTS WE'RE NOT SHARING WITH ANY OF THE DRIFTER-HUNTING GROUPS', despite ARC, especially, being a multi-national organization not affiliated with the Empire.

So, you know, all talk.
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#86 - 2017-05-10 17:14:28 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Well, maybe he just doesn't want to get scammed by honorless liars and thieves who don't follow through with their promises?

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#87 - 2017-05-10 17:38:10 UTC
HAH! Now you're getting it. Well-played, Ayallah, well-played.
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#88 - 2017-05-10 18:08:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayallah
Arrendis wrote:
HAH! Now you're getting it.
More of your ISK and attention?

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#89 - 2017-05-10 20:01:24 UTC
Ah, Ayallah, don't start acting now like you haven't finally gotten the joke.
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#90 - 2017-05-10 21:42:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayallah
Arrendis, I have watched how you vehemently argue nothing, try to rally others, and build narratives for months. I have read enough of your posts to know that you attack universally and stand for almost nothing.

I know why you do it too, you want to win a fight in what you think is another battleground. You look for gaps in the armor and attack every point regardless of how much you know about it, just trying to find an opening to push. When you cannot address the point of the post you attack the way it was presented or how it was phrased to muddy the water and continue the pressure. It is why you change the conversation to a minor point to mis-direct from the major ones you cannot back up. It is why you think pedantry is valuable even as you impotently complain that I know what I am talking about all the time.

Now you try to insist that you were 'just trolling for your entertainment' or that you are not hoping these weak jabs make it through. No one has said you spend a lot of effort or put a lot of emotion into each individual post, but winning overall is very important to you. It is why I expressed concerned for your wellbeing, you have become more frantic and desperate as these months go by. You are less coherent and relevant to the point as you lose focus. I brought it up and you double down on your ultimate out: you are not putting effort into these individual posts. Fine, we do not have to talk about it and I prefer this.

Arrendis, this is no battlefield of ideas. Most of us have been here for years and we all know each other well. We know who knows what they are talking about when it comes to a topic. We know each other's prejudices and manner. We have all learned who we cannot stand to confront about what and who will challenge ideas and refine them. We know who will make a fool of themselves as long as you let them speak.

So I have let you speak.

Because we are here for years Arrendis, and there is no objective to win. The only thing you can do is debate and insult and insist that in the end it does not mean anything. Your only responses will be pretend that getting me to be critical of you was the only reason you did it. I am sure you will insist that it is a sign I am bothered that I pay attention to you and address your points in my free time. 'Made you care and made you speak' is not a victory when words are an endless resource and there is no attrition.

Half a billion ISK is more than most people have gotten to listen to their detractors, and most are not as intelligent or engaging. Why would I damage that Arrendis? How does a vocal enemy who is 'just trolling' and has clear ties to those I have fought before not reflect well on me? Is it not good for me to have an opposition to keep my edge on? Is it not valuable for my image that those who set themselves against me have banded together and still fail to get through? Should I not let you continue as you are when you are set in the course you think is effective?

When I am neighbor to a small dog yapping my name I choose the path that is closer to it. It may be a repetative gnat and stepping closer will surely make it yap more, but every tiny bark declares me the dominant species.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#91 - 2017-05-10 23:43:27 UTC
Yup. That's totally it, Ayallah. You're 100% completely correct. Just like always. About everything.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#92 - 2017-05-10 23:54:04 UTC
While her conclusions aren't quite as solid as they could be, her observations are pretty much crystal clear, Arrendis. You've significantly... deteriorated on these boards lately. There's something shining through the cracks in the presentation, and it remains to be seen if it's desperation or something uglier and more intentional.

Either way, it's been getting worse.
Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#93 - 2017-05-11 19:53:19 UTC
Halcyon Ember wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
I'm just trying to figure out what the changes to QE-He-4 have to do with this, unless Diana's claiming his bounty is now worth far less, and he was somehow planning that.

Or perhaps Diana is simply complaining that her cold dead body is now valued significantly lower than previously.

The envy is strong in this one. It is a sin.

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#94 - 2017-05-11 19:56:30 UTC
Luna Hanaya wrote:

The envy is strong in this one. It is a sin.

I do believe you're misreading the situation.

Queen of Chocolate