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Purity of the Throne declares war on Sanguine Illuminations

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Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#81 - 2017-05-09 17:50:38 UTC
Ilan Ardishapur wrote:
While we continue to enact God's wrath upon the Pretender's lapdogs and the Sabik vermin on the field of battle. I feel the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris is wise to turn their efforts to the Sabik scourge.


More like shamed them. It's OK I have never had love for PIE in any flavor.

I much prefer cake anyway.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#82 - 2017-05-09 17:55:53 UTC
Kalinia Estidalon wrote:
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Couldn't you have, you know, done this back when your cause actually, ah, seemed to have maybe a chance?

I mean, I literally have a collection of your SKINs. They're partly valuable because they're no longer readily available, and I'm sure you're going to say something like that you've gone underground to gather your strength, but doesn't that mostly just mean that you lost outright?

I mean, I've been avoiding addressing you as "my lord" because I'm pretty sure at this point you've been struck from the records. Being driven underground and forced to fight on as a small, lonely group of apparently kind of capable avengers makes for a pretty good holo-drama, but I'm pretty sure the trajectory here is towards some sort of tragic end.


If you believe that we only fight to "win", then you are mistaken. While some of you may hold such childish views that this is all some sort of competition, that is not why we fight. Frankly, I think I'll refrain from wasting my time explaining this here, as many of you are unlikely to look past the filthy lifestyle in which you live, and the false Empress in which you support.

I echo my Lord's statement in that it is wise that Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris seeks to battle the Sabik scum as well. I would say it is even commendable, but considering how long it took them to do so, I wonder if the war was only declared to save face. I pray I am wrong.



Well well I get admonished for using my titles and Traitors like you seem to think you have the right.

Again, you have violated Imperial Law and committed acts if treason. Tell me how this justifies in keeping you lands and titles? I already know that answer.

It doesn't.

And you certainly don't have the respect of the peerage.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#83 - 2017-05-09 17:57:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Gaven Lok'ri
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In this I couldn't agree more. This ship designed for a different purpose and I had to do what I could to adapt to dog fighting. 30 more seconds and my wingman would have been in position to tackle him.

But I do love to experiment.

In reference to going to PIE for their loadouts... it hasn't exactly work for them. in this regard.


Thirty seconds is an eternity in a frigate engagement.

And what loadouts exactly have not been working for us? The main problem we have had so far has been one of not being in the same place at the same time as the Puritans. Arzad does remain our focus after all.

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Edit: Although come to think of it, considering how impractical it is to permanently wardec each and every individual Sani Sabik organization, it seems a little likely that they didn't care for letting it look even a little bit like they might be helping you.


This is about right.

Admiral of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore 24th Imperial Crusade

Holder. Vassal of the Emperor Family

Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#84 - 2017-05-09 17:58:09 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
Actually we declared war because we realized we might actually want to pursue the Purists to Nakri. When we realized that, we realized we might as well hit two birds with one stone. Our war declarations are very much related to feasible areas of operation, and now it seems hisec is back on our AO list.

Also because I needled the Admiralty a bit. Sparring with blooders with lasers is far more stimulating than tiresome jabs on the IGS and Summit.


Such a smooth talker too. Does this mean I can expect you for tea where I can run my fingers through your hair?

I look forward to our next dance lover.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#85 - 2017-05-09 18:05:16 UTC
In some ways, I feel for the Purists. Fighting for a matter of principle, sacrificing and dying for it not because you can win, but because you believe it is the right thing to do... it's the stuff of romantic legends of lonesome heroes protecting the last vestiges of their ideals. If things had gone differently in the Trials, we might have been the rebels.

But they did not, Empress Catiz I is the legitimate ruler of the Holy Empire of Amarr, and here we stand today. The Purists are wrong, we are right, and we must quell their heresy so that it may not spread again, or carry on in the shadows.

Meanwhile, pompous blood-drinking man-butchers will never hold an ounce of sympathy from me. Especially this one, since she seems to enjoy hiding behind broken laws, false-senses of victim-hood, and her own crews as she uses their 'innocent' deaths in her service to garner pity from the fools here on the IGS. Congratulations, you've learned how to use human shields. How unimpressive.

A blooder is a criminal. Any who serves one is an accomplice. Tell your crews to not expect mercy for their foolishness.

No honor for the honorless,
No mercy for the merciless.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu

Kalinia Estidalon
Purity of the Throne
#86 - 2017-05-09 18:18:59 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
In some ways, I feel for the Purists. Fighting for a matter of principle, sacrificing and dying for it not because you can win, but because you believe it is the right thing to do... it's the stuff of romantic legends of lonesome heroes protecting the last vestiges of their ideals. If things had gone differently in the Trials, we might have been the rebels.

But they did not, Empress Catiz I is the legitimate ruler of the Holy Empire of Amarr, and here we stand today. The Purists are wrong, we are right, and we must quell their heresy so that it may not spread again, or carry on in the shadows.


Indeed, if things had gone differently. You seem to have a better head on your shoulders than most. I pray that your eyes are opened to the truth, in time. However, if you refuse to see, I look forward to seeing you and yours on the battlefield as honorable opponents.

Aldrith Shutaq wrote:

Meanwhile, pompous blood-drinking man-butchers will never hold an ounce of sympathy from me. Especially this one, since she seems to enjoy hiding behind broken laws, false-senses of victim-hood, and her own crews as she uses their 'innocent' deaths in her service to garner pity from the fools here on the IGS. Congratulations, you've learned how to use human shields. How unimpressive.

A blooder is a criminal. Any who serves one is an accomplice. Tell your crews to not expect mercy for their foolishness.

No honor for the honorless,
No mercy for the merciless.


In this, we can completely agree.
Ilan Ardishapur
Purity of the Throne
#87 - 2017-05-09 18:34:42 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
I guess it must be kind of freeing, the cause being lost before you actually get into the fight. It makes it a lot easier to stay pure when the only victories really in reach are moral ones.

Standing proud, pure and strong, and without any hope at all-- except, maybe, Paradise?


We were born from the fires of this holy conflict, we fought alongside our righteous brothers when the mutt wrongly declared us traitors to the Empire. Your attempts at defamation are pitiful, though I will forgive such insolence. After all you are merely a unenlightened, ignorant heathen.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#88 - 2017-05-09 18:38:17 UTC
Well, I just have to say that I am incredibly impressed that you managed to do all that fighting without ever registering a single kill or loss with CONCORD. Truly, sir, you are a fervent and dedicated Logistics pilot after my own heart. And with a spotless record, too!
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#89 - 2017-05-09 18:38:22 UTC
I do have to wonder where the Puritans were for the last eight years. Of course, I suppose it's easier to stomach an allegedly illegitimate empress when she was on your side of the militant ideology.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#90 - 2017-05-09 18:38:32 UTC
And this right here is why win or lose, I've always enjoyed fighting PIE. They may be loyal to a system of cruelty and enslavement, but however diametrically opposed they may be to me and mine, they have taken a stand of principle and to my knowledge they're the only ones on that side who have until these Purity zealots came along.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#91 - 2017-05-09 18:40:58 UTC
Good to see you're still keeping track of the idiocy around here, Samira (my own included).
Grash Uriza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#92 - 2017-05-09 19:55:19 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
I do have to wonder where the Puritans were for the last eight years. Of course, I suppose it's easier to stomach an allegedly illegitimate empress when she was on your side of the militant ideology.


Divine miracles happen.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#93 - 2017-05-09 19:58:01 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
Meanwhile, pompous blood-drinking man-butchers will never hold an ounce of sympathy from me. Especially this one, since she seems to enjoy hiding behind broken laws, false-senses of victim-hood, and her own crews as she uses their 'innocent' deaths in her service to garner pity from the fools here on the IGS. Congratulations, you've learned how to use human shields. How unimpressive.

A blooder is a criminal. Any who serves one is an accomplice. Tell your crews to not expect mercy for their foolishness.

No honor for the honorless,
No mercy for the merciless.


Alas a pot calling the kettle black. Though not the kettle you are looking

Actually a child playing upon old holoreels of when i was in Bloodveil or the Dark Seraph. I can be responsible for those actions. but you have made some statements to the effect that.

Show me where I have butchered men. surely with all your bravado you have evidence of this. Show me where I have committed heinous crimes such as mass murders and torture on a grand scale.

Show us all... where I have done these things. Prove that I am the monster you say I am.

Show me the warrant for my arrest to the Theology Council. As Holder I have that right. I dare you.

PIE's proclamation of implies all these acts and yet has shown that is none.

Instead whose organization sided with known terrorists in the last 24 hours at the needling on its Fleet Commanders. And it's commanders expressing admiration for system of law that is broken.

Your words not mine.

You have taken pride in hiding behind Holy Writ and Righteous indignation to the point you are blind with your self glory. If I recall my Holy Scriptures and I do. This is the hubris that I speak of.

I reminds me a Matari parable too. The mountain and the rock. Much wisdom there.

For my crews I do not seek battle with either the Terrorists or their Kin. We've been complict with Imperial Law. Our laws Aldith. Those are the same laws that was lectured the Purists about coronation day.

You can't have it both ways. Either you follow the legality of the law or you defy it.

Supporting a Terrorist organization because they "shamed" to the morally right thing means YOU ARE THE ACCOMPLICE doesn't matter if you are war with them.

PIE has made the wrong choice in a long line of wrong choices.




We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#94 - 2017-05-09 20:12:31 UTC
Child, you are doing yourself no favors trying to make Aldieboo and his people look like they're 'siding with a Terrorist organization'. If you haven't noticed, they're at war with these people. A legal one, just like the one against you and yours. Their loyalties are probably the least questionable ones of the entire Imperial side of things.

You on the other hand subscribe to what is possibly the most repulsive heretical faith the Empire acknowledges, which quite effectively aligns you with outright enemies of the Empire. You have no Holdership or noble claim at this point, I'm willing to bet my Hel on it. I'm more likely to own Holdings in the Empire than you.

You made your choices, and you're frankly a disgrace to both your faith and theirs if you try to weedle yourself out of it by playing the victim.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#95 - 2017-05-09 20:17:26 UTC
Casserina Leshrac wrote:
You can't have it both ways. Either you follow the legality of the law or you defy it.


Quote:
From: CONCORD
Sent: 2017.05.09 01:05

Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris has declared war on Sanguine Illuminations.
Within 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.


Good thing we've got that squared away.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#96 - 2017-05-09 20:45:06 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Child, you are doing yourself no favors trying to make Aldieboo and his people look like they're 'siding with a Terrorist organization'. If you haven't noticed, they're at war with these people. A legal one, just like the one against you and yours. Their loyalties are probably the least questionable ones of the entire Imperial side of things.

You on the other hand subscribe to what is possibly the most repulsive heretical faith the Empire acknowledges, which quite effectively aligns you with outright enemies of the Empire. You have no Holdership or noble claim at this point, I'm willing to bet my Hel on it. I'm more likely to own Holdings in the Empire than you.

You made your choices, and you're frankly a disgrace to both your faith and theirs if you try to weedle yourself out of it by playing the victim.


Yes it does seem to be that way doesn't it?

I have not retreated from my decisions. I have stood by them. I have led crews in the battle and won and lost them.

And I am certainly no victim.

And yes I am Heretic. Again I make no illusions of this.

I not the one who is starting this war. My choice in religion should have no bearing on this. It's a petty excuse. They don't even have the decency to come after me personally. Rather they will come in our systems and gank a miner trying to make ISK.

My legal status should had me in jail. I should not be access Imperial Agents but I do.

Those along many other aspects of Imperial life are still available to me without impunity. Thus whether PIE agrees with it or not. I can still assist the Empire.

Purity of the Throne is a terrorist organization. The took up the sword against their legitimate Empress, called her Udorian and impure and decided to that only True Amarrs to sit on the throne subject to their standards. All because their Heir lost fairly.

It's not the fact they war with the Purtains as well. But instead why they went to war with us and why no other corp has not. Because of me.

I'm not the victim, I'm the target. I am the example PIE wants to make because they want me to be this evil Sani Sabik that they have dreamed up.

Just remember Miz, as Matari you as much a target as I am. They just need an excuse and not a very good one. These are the same people who want the Reclamation to begin in earnest.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#97 - 2017-05-09 20:45:26 UTC
Okay. I was, you know, gonna say 'I really hate to do this', and 'I didn't want to give you crap over niggling little details', but we all know I'd be lying. The truth is, I'd been holding back on a lot of your other statements because, you know, who isn't guilty of some verbal slips now and again, but now you're getting persnickety over the fine details and points of law and wandering right into the wheelhouse of 'oh my god Arrendis is going to have a field day with this', and really... there's just too much there for me to really even have the time to get into it all to the degree that we all I know I'd want to for a properly brow-beating and excessive argument.

So I'm just gonna go with one tiny little point on one tiny little bit of 'aren't you supposed to know words better?' that I'm pretty sure the people demolishing your bigger stupidity will let slide.

Casserina Leshrac wrote:

For my crews I do not seek battle with either the Terrorists or their Kin. We've been complict with Imperial Law. Our laws Aldith. Those are the same laws that was lectured the Purists about coronation day.


com·plic·it: (adj) involved with others in an illegal activity or wrongdoing.

You cannot be complicit with the law. You would be compliant with the law. To say you are 'complicit' means expressly that you are violating the law. Please stop using words you see on the police procedural holos until you understand what they mean. Thankee.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#98 - 2017-05-09 20:45:57 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
Casserina Leshrac wrote:
You can't have it both ways. Either you follow the legality of the law or you defy it.


Quote:
From: CONCORD
Sent: 2017.05.09 01:05

Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris has declared war on Sanguine Illuminations.
Within 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.


Good thing we've got that squared away.


Curious... how is this Imperial Law again?

I mean CONCORD doesn't exactly have an issue with my Faith here.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#99 - 2017-05-09 20:47:05 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Okay. I was, you know, gonna say 'I really hate to do this', and 'I didn't want to give you crap over niggling little details', but we all know I'd be lying. The truth is, I'd been holding back on a lot of your other statements because, you know, who isn't guilty of some verbal slips now and again, but now you're getting persnickety over the fine details and points of law and wandering right into the wheelhouse of 'oh my god Arrendis is going to have a field day with this', and really... there's just too much there for me to really even have the time to get into it all to the degree that we all I know I'd want to for a properly brow-beating and excessive argument.

So I'm just gonna go with one tiny little point on one tiny little bit of 'aren't you supposed to know words better?' that I'm pretty sure the people demolishing your bigger stupidity will let slide.

Casserina Leshrac wrote:

For my crews I do not seek battle with either the Terrorists or their Kin. We've been complict with Imperial Law. Our laws Aldith. Those are the same laws that was lectured the Purists about coronation day.


com·plic·it: (adj) involved with others in an illegal activity or wrongdoing.

You cannot be complicit with the law. You would be compliant with the law. To say you are 'complicit' means expressly that you are violating the law. Please stop using words you see on the police procedural holos until you understand what they mean. Thankee.


OK Arrendis.. thanks for the lesson.

I will try do better when not being so passionate.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#100 - 2017-05-09 20:47:54 UTC
Casserina Leshrac wrote:

Curious... how is this Imperial Law again?

I mean CONCORD doesn't exactly have an issue with my Faith here.


Because as capsuleers, Imperial Law says you fall under the jurisdiction of CONCORD.