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Purity of the Throne declares war on Sanguine Illuminations
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Ilan Ardishapur
Purity of the Throne
#61 - 2017-05-08 21:13:24 UTC
Perhaps if you took the time to study the battle records, you'd find that there has been combat. Then again, I wouldn't expect a heretic such as yourself to seek out the truth in any form.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#62 - 2017-05-08 21:18:28 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Much as expected. No activity between Sanguine Illuminations and Purity of the Throne. SFRIM has lost two ships with the attendant pods - edited to add: Some -weird- pods at that at the count of roughly 150m+ - , PIE has lost one pod in Amarr to the tune of 400m or so and no activity between the other two currently active war participants.

So funnily enough, it's the three largely non-combatants that are running off with both the killcount and isk efficiency. And a lot of people are losing pods to slowlocking ships, without a bubble in sight.


I can't say that I am arguing the numbers here. For one thing we are not in Mehatoor we are still leaving that to PIE and SFRIM since they really have more than enough in area.

Sure we would like to get in there and be part of those operations.

However both Corps in the past stated their position on the Sani Sabik. So I will not unnecessarily risk my pilots, flying my flag to engage with the Purtians in Mehatoor. This has the added affect to deny the younger trigger happy pilots from taking shots at us as we work together against a self-made common foe.

We know there are two pilots now operating outside Mehatoor and we are actively pursuing them while still trying to meet our quota in ore and productivity levels.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#63 - 2017-05-08 21:20:07 UTC
Ilan Ardishapur wrote:
Perhaps if you took the time to study the battle records, you'd find that there has been combat. Then again, I wouldn't expect a heretic such as yourself to seek out the truth in any form.


I expect you to meet me in space.

You have failed to have done so.

I am supposed to be the weaker target.

Now if you don't mind I have ore to mine.

You know where to find me... coward.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#64 - 2017-05-08 22:30:43 UTC
Thanks for the ISK Arrendis.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#65 - 2017-05-08 23:53:40 UTC
So, got my wardec?

Cuz, you know, you like to talk a big game on honor, and you did promise, so... I'd hate to think you were breaking your word.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#66 - 2017-05-08 23:58:15 UTC
Seriously, way too petty. You are lowering yourself to pitiful levels, Arrendis.
Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#67 - 2017-05-09 00:18:21 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Much as expected. No activity between Sanguine Illuminations and Purity of the Throne. SFRIM has lost two ships with the attendant pods - edited to add: Some -weird- pods at that at the count of roughly 150m+ - , PIE has lost one pod in Amarr to the tune of 400m or so and no activity between the other two currently active war participants.

So funnily enough, it's the three largely non-combatants that are running off with both the killcount and isk efficiency. And a lot of people are losing pods to slowlocking ships, without a bubble in sight.

Funny enough there is a lot of ways to lose ships and pods in strange circumstances. From scram kiting DDs to a beam torms or a pricey pods in low to a kite hooks without a bubble in sight for example, just saying.
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#68 - 2017-05-09 01:12:45 UTC
Quote:
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris has declared war on Sanguine Illuminations.
Within 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.

Now it's a party.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#69 - 2017-05-09 16:01:13 UTC
WAR REPORT DAY THREE:

A combined fleet of Sanguine Illumination pilots engaged Purity of the Throne Pilot in the system of Nakri. The interloper was driven off and one Executioner Class Frigate was lost in the battle.

Sanguine Illuminations considers this a Strategic Victory as none of our vessels were driven off the field battle and that we did not lose any one to pod kill.

Tactical Victory goes to Purity of Thrones as they did destroy one our Frigates.

LESSONS LEARNED:

P-THR is not is not something to be trifled. Pilots are skilled combatants and zealots to their cause all pilots in Devoid and Domain should take heed of this armed and dangerous terrorist organization who threatens the way of lives for countess pilots trying to make an honest ISK.

PIE WAR DECLARATIONS

During our engagement with the Puritans, PIE whom has declared war on P-THR decided and without provocation to declare war on Sanguine Illuminations.

Killboards show PIE has been struggling against P-THR

https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98476512/

Sanguine Illuminations will no longer stand by and allow the bullying and negative information from PIE.

They are not the governing authority. Their war declaration now has them labelled as Terrorist like the Purity of the Throne and traitors to Imperial Law

Letters of Marque have been filed with relevant agents of the Empire and are awaiting authorization.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#70 - 2017-05-09 16:02:39 UTC
Ilan Ardishapur wrote:
Perhaps if you took the time to study the battle records, you'd find that there has been combat. Then again, I wouldn't expect a heretic such as yourself to seek out the truth in any form.


Yes you are better killing Loyalists then Sani Sabik.

Pray for better luck.

I will meet you in space

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#71 - 2017-05-09 16:13:29 UTC
Pretty sure that Executioner exploded out of embarrassment more than hostile fire. My sincere and genuine recommendation is to start trawling the boards of entities like PIE and such for decent loadouts, because I can assure you they'll be more likely to work than... whatever the hell that was supposed to be.

Please stop doing these terrible things to ships that haven't deserved such abuse.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#72 - 2017-05-09 16:15:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Casserina Leshrac wrote:
Sanguine Illuminations will no longer stand by and allow the bullying and negative information from PIE.

They are not the governing authority. Their war declaration now has them labelled as Terrorist like the Purity of the Throne and traitors to Imperial Law


... uh. So-- rhetoric aside, Ms. Leshrac ... I might occasionally play the witch satirically, but you're more like the genuine article, and not shy about saying so. You've said in the past that you accept the death mark on your head, and you've at least implied that you understand fully how Imperial society sees you (that, to somewhat understate the case, you're not going to Paradise) ...

... in which context: this?

Hunting heretics is kind of an ancient duty of Imperial loyalists, so, it seems maybe more surprising that they took this long about it.


Edit: Although come to think of it, considering how impractical it is to permanently wardec each and every individual Sani Sabik organization, it seems a little likely that they didn't care for letting it look even a little bit like they might be helping you.
Ilan Ardishapur
Purity of the Throne
#73 - 2017-05-09 16:17:15 UTC
While we continue to enact God's wrath upon the Pretender's lapdogs and the Sabik vermin on the field of battle. I feel the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris is wise to turn their efforts to the Sabik scourge.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#74 - 2017-05-09 16:42:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Ilan Ardishapur wrote:
... we continue to enact God's wrath upon the Pretender's lapdogs and the Sabik vermin on the field of battle.

Couldn't you have, you know, done this back when your cause actually, ah, seemed to have maybe a chance?

I mean, I literally have a collection of your SKINs. They're partly valuable because they're no longer readily available, and I'm sure you're going to say something like that you've gone underground to gather your strength, but doesn't that mostly just mean that you lost outright?

I mean, I've been avoiding addressing you as "my lord" because I'm pretty sure at this point you've been struck from the records. Being driven underground and forced to fight on as a small, lonely group of apparently kind of capable avengers makes for a pretty good holo-drama, but I'm pretty sure the trajectory here is towards some sort of tragic end.

(Which, from the Empire's perspective would be "you winning," but if this were a stage drama ... although I guess the Empire doesn't actually see anything admirable in its traitors, so I guess if anyone makes that holo-drama it'll probably be NOH. Ah-- yeah, a small, elite force standing up for pure bloodlines and ancient traditions in the face of changing times, creeping egalitarianism, and practical reality. That's a theme Caldari traditionalists might just love absolutely to bits.

("See?" They might say to each other, "Proper distinction between bloodlines is in decline all around the cluster, despite the sad, noble struggles of those who think as we do. It is up to us to uphold the principle that we should say and do nasty things and generally be horrible to people of mixed blood!")
Kalinia Estidalon
Purity of the Throne
#75 - 2017-05-09 17:14:59 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Couldn't you have, you know, done this back when your cause actually, ah, seemed to have maybe a chance?

I mean, I literally have a collection of your SKINs. They're partly valuable because they're no longer readily available, and I'm sure you're going to say something like that you've gone underground to gather your strength, but doesn't that mostly just mean that you lost outright?

I mean, I've been avoiding addressing you as "my lord" because I'm pretty sure at this point you've been struck from the records. Being driven underground and forced to fight on as a small, lonely group of apparently kind of capable avengers makes for a pretty good holo-drama, but I'm pretty sure the trajectory here is towards some sort of tragic end.


If you believe that we only fight to "win", then you are mistaken. While some of you may hold such childish views that this is all some sort of competition, that is not why we fight. Frankly, I think I'll refrain from wasting my time explaining this here, as many of you are unlikely to look past the filthy lifestyle in which you live, and the false Empress in which you support.

I echo my Lord's statement in that it is wise that Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris seeks to battle the Sabik scum as well. I would say it is even commendable, but considering how long it took them to do so, I wonder if the war was only declared to save face. I pray I am wrong.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#76 - 2017-05-09 17:20:25 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:

Being driven underground and forced to fight on as a small, lonely group of apparently kind of capable avengers makes for a pretty good holo-drama,


In YC118 a crack resistance movement was found incompetent and failed to stop the coronation of an Empress... they did not endorse.

These heretics promptly undocked from a minimum security docking ring and escaped into the Throne Worlds underground, where they live on as war-deccers-of-fortune.

If you don't like your sovereign, if no-one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can get shot by...

THE P-TEAM.

(I dunno, I was gonna go with 'P-THRONE', but that plan didn't come together. Just couldn't get jazzed about it. But I do pity those fools.)
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#77 - 2017-05-09 17:21:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Aldrith Shutaq
Actually we declared war because we realized we might actually want to pursue the Purists to Nakri. When we realized that, we realized we might as well hit two birds with one stone. Our war declarations are very much related to feasible areas of operation, and now it seems hisec is back on our AO list.

Also because I needled the Admiralty a bit. Sparring with blooders with lasers is far more stimulating than tiresome jabs on the IGS and Summit.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#78 - 2017-05-09 17:30:47 UTC
Kalinia Estidalon wrote:
If you believe that we only fight to "win", then you are mistaken. While some of you may hold such childish views that this is all some sort of competition, that is not why we fight. Frankly, I think I'll refrain from wasting my time explaining this here, as many of you are unlikely to look past the filthy lifestyle in which you live, and the false Empress in which you support.

I guess it must be kind of freeing, the cause being lost before you actually get into the fight. It makes it a lot easier to stay pure when the only victories really in reach are moral ones.

Standing proud, pure and strong, and without any hope at all-- except, maybe, Paradise?

Only, doesn't your orthodox Amarrian faith, complete with racial component, teach that your blood bears a certain duty in this world? I wonder if your god will reward you for abandoning that struggle so that you can remain pure.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#79 - 2017-05-09 17:43:07 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Pretty sure that Executioner exploded out of embarrassment more than hostile fire. My sincere and genuine recommendation is to start trawling the boards of entities like PIE and such for decent loadouts, because I can assure you they'll be more likely to work than... whatever the hell that was supposed to be.

Please stop doing these terrible things to ships that haven't deserved such abuse.


In this I couldn't agree more. This ship designed for a different purpose and I had to do what I could to adapt to dog fighting. 30 more seconds and my wingman would have been in position to tackle him.

But I do love to experiment.

In reference to going to PIE for their loadouts... it hasn't exactly work for them. in this regard.


We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#80 - 2017-05-09 17:49:04 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Casserina Leshrac wrote:
Sanguine Illuminations will no longer stand by and allow the bullying and negative information from PIE.

They are not the governing authority. Their war declaration now has them labelled as Terrorist like the Purity of the Throne and traitors to Imperial Law


... uh. So-- rhetoric aside, Ms. Leshrac ... I might occasionally play the witch satirically, but you're more like the genuine article, and not shy about saying so. You've said in the past that you accept the death mark on your head, and you've at least implied that you understand fully how Imperial society sees you (that, to somewhat understate the case, you're not going to Paradise) ...

... in which context: this?

Hunting heretics is kind of an ancient duty of Imperial loyalists, so, it seems maybe more surprising that they took this long about it.


Edit: Although come to think of it, considering how impractical it is to permanently wardec each and every individual Sani Sabik organization, it seems a little likely that they didn't care for letting it look even a little bit like they might be helping you.


Since you and I have met to face to face. You know I am a fairly complex in my thoughts and feelings.

You are asking some very good questions, some that I am asking even of myself.

With respect Aria I will not answer here to allow my enemies to engage in conversation with the twisting of word.

Please ask me privately and off list. I will do my best to give you the answers that you seek.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.