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"PLEX can no longer be used for Character transfer fee payments"

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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#81 - 2017-05-06 11:54:13 UTC
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
JuckFames 315 wrote:
It makes me sad to read people flame a game and its developers for not allowing people to use an in game based currency to buy character transfers to another account. This is a very ignorant thought process and I think CCP has every right to charge someone RL money to do it because that takes an actual person not just magically happens at the click of a button and poof the character is transferred.

Ignorance?

The only way to pay a character transfer is now a credit card. I don't own one. Not because I cannot afford it, but because I don't need it. There has not been a single case in the last 19 years where I couldn't pay by other (better) means. Before I finally got rid of my credit card in 1998, I hadn't used it once in 5 years.

So this is the first situation in those 19 years where I require a credit card. This is not ignorance on the players side, this is ignorance and failure on the side of CCP.


Use PayPal ...

Paypal is no longer available for character transfers. Hasn't been in years.

Remove standings and insurance.

ArmyOfMe
Teddybears.
Dead Terrorists
#82 - 2017-05-06 13:48:11 UTC
Magnus Jax wrote:
Thrash Trash wrote:
youre dumb and should go be so somewhere else. CCP makes no money off people who grind in game and then return jita plex to redeeming system for transfers. This is really sneaky on CCP's part and harkens back to the "greed is good" CCP of not so old.....



Uhhm, on the off chance that you're not trolling (like troll clown 315 above), you DO realise that for someone to make use of a plex that he bought with ingame iskies that plex has to first be bought by someone else,right? Who paid RL money to get it, right?

One can't be that fcking ******** and not understand this, especially not when berating someone else for being dumb on this very subject.

Never underestimate human stupidity, especially among some of the eve players.

GM Guard > I must ask you not to use the petition option like this again but i personally would finish the chicken sandwich first so it won´t go to waste. The spaghetti will keep and you can use it the next time you get hungry. Best regards.

Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#83 - 2017-05-06 14:10:43 UTC
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
JuckFames 315 wrote:
It makes me sad to read people flame a game and its developers for not allowing people to use an in game based currency to buy character transfers to another account. This is a very ignorant thought process and I think CCP has every right to charge someone RL money to do it because that takes an actual person not just magically happens at the click of a button and poof the character is transferred.

Ignorance?

The only way to pay a character transfer is now a credit card. I don't own one. Not because I cannot afford it, but because I don't need it. There has not been a single case in the last 19 years where I couldn't pay by other (better) means. Before I finally got rid of my credit card in 1998, I hadn't used it once in 5 years.

So this is the first situation in those 19 years where I require a credit card. This is not ignorance on the players side, this is ignorance and failure on the side of CCP.


Use PayPal ...

Paypal is no longer available for character transfers. Hasn't been in years.


I stand corrected, you can not indeed, which is quite silly.
Father Manlove
Sheep Can Hear A Zipper From A Mile Away
#84 - 2017-05-06 17:10:37 UTC
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
JuckFames 315 wrote:
It makes me sad to read people flame a game and its developers for not allowing people to use an in game based currency to buy character transfers to another account. This is a very ignorant thought process and I think CCP has every right to charge someone RL money to do it because that takes an actual person not just magically happens at the click of a button and poof the character is transferred.

Ignorance?

The only way to pay a character transfer is now a credit card. I don't own one. Not because I cannot afford it, but because I don't need it. There has not been a single case in the last 19 years where I couldn't pay by other (better) means. Before I finally got rid of my credit card in 1998, I hadn't used it once in 5 years.

So this is the first situation in those 19 years where I require a credit card. This is not ignorance on the players side, this is ignorance and failure on the side of CCP.


Use PayPal ...

Paypal is no longer available for character transfers. Hasn't been in years.


I stand corrected, you can not indeed, which is quite silly.


The most pathetically hilarious part? When PayPal for transfers was taken away, they said they'd look into getting it re-added in the future, pretty much the same crap they've said here. It's been what now, 5 years?
Mister Tuggles
THE AESIR.
Hostile Probes
#85 - 2017-05-06 17:37:45 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
This is something that wasn't included in the release with the PLEX changes, as it's caused by a technical limitation with the way the new PLEX system works.

The plan is to look at this down the future and potentially reintroduce paying for this with PLEX, but at this stage we're not committed to a timeline on when this will happen.

Hope this answers your question Smile



I wonder how many subscription losses this comment has cost CCP.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
#86 - 2017-05-06 19:31:32 UTC
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
JuckFames 315 wrote:
It makes me sad to read people flame a game and its developers for not allowing people to use an in game based currency to buy character transfers to another account. This is a very ignorant thought process and I think CCP has every right to charge someone RL money to do it because that takes an actual person not just magically happens at the click of a button and poof the character is transferred.

Ignorance?

The only way to pay a character transfer is now a credit card. I don't own one. Not because I cannot afford it, but because I don't need it. There has not been a single case in the last 19 years where I couldn't pay by other (better) means. Before I finally got rid of my credit card in 1998, I hadn't used it once in 5 years.

So this is the first situation in those 19 years where I require a credit card. This is not ignorance on the players side, this is ignorance and failure on the side of CCP.


Use PayPal ...

Paypal is no longer available for character transfers. Hasn't been in years.


I stand corrected, you can not indeed, which is quite silly.

CCP is silly.
HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
#87 - 2017-05-06 19:32:41 UTC  |  Edited by: HandelsPharmi
CCP Falcon wrote:
This is something that wasn't included in the release with the PLEX changes, as it's caused by a technical limitation with the way the new PLEX system works.

The plan is to look at this down the future and potentially reintroduce paying for this with PLEX, but at this stage we're not committed to a timeline on when this will happen.

Hope this answers your question Smile



I have transfered around 170 chars till that day.
This are 3400 $ I have NOT payed for this game, and to be honest, I would never ever do that.
340 PLEX other players have bought, maybe for 20 $ per PLEX or for 15 $ with a bigger discount. More than 5000 $ for you CCP!!!

This means, I have converted "cheap" PLEX (2 = 20 $) to expensive PLEX (buying in Jita)...

Account subsciption is one thing, but why should I pay additional real money for something related with the game?

I am afraid, but I doubt, that I will keep subscribing my 43 accounts.
Why? Cause I cannot afford it anymore... the char bazaar is dead.
Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#88 - 2017-05-06 20:25:01 UTC
Father Manlove wrote:

The most pathetically hilarious part? When PayPal for transfers was taken away, they said they'd look into getting it re-added in the future, pretty much the same crap they've said here. It's been what now, 5 years?


Just a few months shy of 5 years, yup.

PayPal payments for character transfers temporarily disabled posted on 2012-07-26
Defecanda
Ice Mining Boys
#89 - 2017-05-07 19:46:06 UTC
Thread is dying, Eve dead yet?

[i][b]CCP Zulu.....      Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. [/b](i like to steal sigs)[/i]

HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
#90 - 2017-05-07 19:50:08 UTC
Nope, only the char bazaar is dead - from now on :)
Krota Merga
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#91 - 2017-05-08 03:15:32 UTC
So new scam plan invented by CCP. Post char for sale in bazar, find buyer, then seller 'suddenly' realizes that he needs 20$ for transfer, but he does not have it. Seller kindly asks buyer send him money by Paypal or bank transfer with promise to reduce price for 2.5B. Buyer sends money Twisted......
HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
#92 - 2017-05-08 06:39:12 UTC  |  Edited by: HandelsPharmi
Krota Merga wrote:
So new scam plan invented by CCP. Post char for sale in bazar, find buyer, then seller 'suddenly' realizes that he needs 20$ for transfer, but he does not have it. Seller kindly asks buyer send him money by Paypal or bank transfer with promise to reduce price for 2.5B. Buyer sends money Twisted......


This idea is that "simple" or "stupid" that more than one player will be scammed :)
I will order some popcorn....
BSchneider
Tactically Armed Vanguard
Tactical Narcotics Team
#93 - 2017-05-08 07:42:32 UTC
JuckFames 315 wrote:
Ok lets cut to the chase here how many have you even pay for your account or spend any RL money on the game? If no then please shut up you are not allowed to have an opinion because companies can not and will not be able to support a game where the majority of the player base do not make a monetary contribution. Stuff doesn't just run for free. If people wish for it to continue to be free for all to play and not spend any type of money on the game 1 of 2 things will happen the game ceases to exist or it becomes an AD driven game like every other Facebook or mobile game.

It makes me sad to read people flame a game and its developers for not allowing people to use an in game based currency to buy character transfers to another account. This is a very ignorant thought process and I think CCP has every right to charge someone RL money to do it because that takes an actual person not just magically happens at the click of a button and poof the character is transferred. If you asked me the only thing in game currency should be able buy would be anything made and/or produced in game period and that there also should be a cap on total currency/storage allowed on alpha accounts. Yes the player base may drop at first but it will weed out anyone who plays this game for making a profit off of it and allow people who actually enjoy playing the game to keep playing.

CCP you have one heck of a great game Big smile with lots of different aspects to take part in at any given time. And yes there are few bugs here and there heck even the big AAA title games have problems but those guys just milk people for money on rehashed garbage while you guys work to improve a single game that has existed for this long. I will continue to pay my sub for my accounts with RL money WHY because this game offers so many options for just 1 person to be active in and I know that money will be used to help improve the game and its many adventures in space a person could have.



I completely agree - well said pilot o7
Korvin
Shadow Kingdom
Best Alliance
#94 - 2017-05-08 13:42:03 UTC
Just upgrade your PC for future expansions like this.
http://degree1978.narod.ru/ss/2017-05-08_1632.png
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Member of CSM 4&5 ... &8

Tiirz
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#95 - 2017-05-08 16:12:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiirz
"Trchnical limitation" is a cope out answer and you know it ccp. Really what you're saying is "we were too lazy to add this feature, and realized we could milk money out of it so we'll pretend we might fix it but we won't. " Starting down this path is NOT were you want to take eve, and I highly suggest for the health of this game you actually put forth effort to fix this so called problem immediately.
VallyInDaClub
Usque Ad Mortem
#96 - 2017-05-08 17:13:08 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
This is something that wasn't included in the release with the PLEX changes, as it's caused by a technical limitation with the way the new PLEX system works.

The plan is to look at this down the future and potentially reintroduce paying for this with PLEX, but at this stage we're not committed to a timeline on when this will happen.

Hope this answers your question Smile


That is such a crap answer. Seriously, be honest and just say "No we found a way to make money" rather than spewing that guff
VallyInDaClub
Usque Ad Mortem
#97 - 2017-05-08 17:14:59 UTC
JuckFames 315 wrote:
Ok lets cut to the chase here how many have you even pay for your account or spend any RL money on the game? If no then please shut up you are not allowed to have an opinion because companies can not and will not be able to support a game where the majority of the player base do not make a monetary contribution. Stuff doesn't just run for free. If people wish for it to continue to be free for all to play and not spend any type of money on the game 1 of 2 things will happen the game ceases to exist or it becomes an AD driven game like every other Facebook or mobile game.

It makes me sad to read people flame a game and its developers for not allowing people to use an in game based currency to buy character transfers to another account. This is a very ignorant thought process and I think CCP has every right to charge someone RL money to do it because that takes an actual person not just magically happens at the click of a button and poof the character is transferred. If you asked me the only thing in game currency should be able buy would be anything made and/or produced in game period and that there also should be a cap on total currency/storage allowed on alpha accounts. Yes the player base may drop at first but it will weed out anyone who plays this game for making a profit off of it and allow people who actually enjoy playing the game to keep playing.

CCP you have one heck of a great game Big smile with lots of different aspects to take part in at any given time. And yes there are few bugs here and there heck even the big AAA title games have problems but those guys just milk people for money on rehashed garbage while you guys work to improve a single game that has existed for this long. I will continue to pay my sub for my accounts with RL money WHY because this game offers so many options for just 1 person to be active in and I know that money will be used to help improve the game and its many adventures in space a person could have.





That would be fine and dandy if it wasn't for the complete nonsense reply of "We're not committing to a timeline but we intend to fix it"
If it weren't for the guff you wouldn't have the huff.
Zanthar Eos
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#98 - 2017-05-08 17:16:28 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
This is something that wasn't included in the release with the PLEX changes, as it's caused by a technical limitation with the way the new PLEX system works.

The plan is to look at this down the future and potentially reintroduce paying for this with PLEX, but at this stage we're not committed to a timeline on when this will happen.

Hope this answers your question Smile

Can we seriously just stop with putting out these half baked systems? There was nothing at all wrong with the current plex system, and replacing it with a incomplete one tends to not be a very smart or popular option.
David Gradivus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#99 - 2017-05-08 17:30:36 UTC
Surely you guys can figure out a way to not remove PLEX as an option. Maybe not ******* change PLEX when it doesn't need to be changed?
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
The Initiative.
#100 - 2017-05-08 18:18:24 UTC
Why so late.?
Was expecting that for years.

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