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A short announcement related to TD involvement in Kyonoke attacks.

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Diana Kim
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#41 - 2017-05-05 21:23:43 UTC
kul Shaishi wrote:

Diana Kim You are The definition of a traitor a coward A idiot

The State has many enemies. And when they fail to stop us, they resolve to such pathetic insulting outbursts.

Well, it could just mean that we are doing a good job. It is amusing seeing enemies in such rage and brain meltdown.

Luckily for us, neither of their insults have any sensible background.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Ria Nieyli
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#42 - 2017-05-05 21:30:36 UTC
You mean like the meltdown you experience when I talk to people about my time in the State Protectorate and you see it?
Diana Kim
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#43 - 2017-05-05 21:38:39 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
You mean like the meltdown you experience when I talk to people about my time in the State Protectorate and you see it?

Another enemy spreads lies about Caldari Officer. It is a pity they can't cotribute to the discussion in other way.

Probably they can't cope with the discharge of Dragonaurs from my ship. But whatever evil tonges say, my decision will stand. They are already being discharged and you can't do anything to stop me.

No new hirings will be made until the further notice, as was stated in the initial message.

The State will stand strong. You have no power here.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Ria Nieyli
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#44 - 2017-05-05 21:46:37 UTC
No, I'm pretty sure I am, in fact a Caldari citizen in good standing with the State, not an enemy.
Yoshitaka Moromuo
Burning Skies
Apocalypse Now.
#45 - 2017-05-05 23:09:27 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Tsao Aubbes wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Templis Dragonaurs are not enemies of the Caldari.

Templis Dragonarus are enemies of the Caldari State.

Lieutenant, you are spreading false facts in the IGS, since the link you provided contradicts your own words. There were no mention of Templis Dragonaurs becoming or being enemies in that publication. There was only saying they are in so-called "terrorist" list.

Your behavior is unacceptable and unbecoming of Caldari Officer.

Visit my office at once.

By definition, if a government recognizes an individual or group as terrorist, they are essentially "enemies of the state" at that point. Per the article:
"'CEP dissolves State Executor position; Provists', The Scope, YC115.07.09" wrote:
... The CEP has also reaffirmed the status of the Templis Dragonaurs as terrorists. Though they were never officially removed from the State's list of terrorist organizations, they maintained a close affiliation with the Provists and were increasingly being used in official capacities by the Heth regime. ...

Their status on that list was never revoked during Tubis Heth's period of power; it was merely overlooked and, arguably, unenforced. This article, despite it being four years old, is likely the most current statement on the status of the Templis Dragonaurs in the eyes of the Caldari State and the Chief Executive Panel.
Stitcher
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#46 - 2017-05-05 23:21:49 UTC
Quote:
There was only saying they are in so-called "terrorist" list.


By this (and I use the word with a sneer, here) "logic", the Guristas aren't enemies of the Caldari STate either, because they are only on the so-called "Pirate" list.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Diana Kim
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#47 - 2017-05-06 01:13:25 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Quote:
There was only saying they are in so-called "terrorist" list.


By this (and I use the word with a sneer, here) "logic", the Guristas aren't enemies of the Caldari STate either, because they are only on the so-called "Pirate" list.

Piracy is a crime.
Terrorism is warfare method.

Next.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Yoshitaka Moromuo
Burning Skies
Apocalypse Now.
#48 - 2017-05-06 01:27:44 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Stitcher wrote:
Quote:
There was only saying they are in so-called "terrorist" list.


By this (and I use the word with a sneer, here) "logic", the Guristas aren't enemies of the Caldari STate either, because they are only on the so-called "Pirate" list.

Piracy is a crime.
Terrorism is warfare method.

Next.
Piracy is indeed a crime.

Terrorism, the commission of acts intended to cause disarray, and often targeting civilian or non-combatant targets, can be - and I believe is - considered a war crime.

Arguably, worse than piracy.
Nai Arto
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2017-05-06 01:27:51 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Stitcher wrote:
Quote:
There was only saying they are in so-called "terrorist" list.


By this (and I use the word with a sneer, here) "logic", the Guristas aren't enemies of the Caldari STate either, because they are only on the so-called "Pirate" list.

Piracy is a crime.
Terrorism is warfare method.

Next.


Sophistry worthy of the "great" gallente philosophers. This is the kind of doublespeak one expects from Scope holonews commentators, not Caldari Officers.
TomHorn
Forlorn Avengers
Optimistic Wasteland
#50 - 2017-05-06 01:51:21 UTC  |  Edited by: TomHorn
Dragonaurs took part on the assault on Caldari Prime , lead the assault and captured the city of Arcurio with minimal casualties, that divison was lead by Heth.

To give such service to your nation , then be placed on a terrorist list , its shameful . Most armoured divisions involved in such an historic and successful action would be honoured by its nation, not criminalised.

We know its down to the liberals , Ishukone , Mens Reppola .

They were strong supporters of Heth ,would of been against Ishukone policies after the fall of Heth. They had to go.
Diana Kim
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#51 - 2017-05-06 02:09:01 UTC
Yoshitaka Moromuo wrote:
Piracy is indeed a crime.

Terrorism, the commission of acts intended to cause disarray, and often targeting civilian or non-combatant targets, can be - and I believe is - considered a war crime.

Arguably, worse than piracy.

I have no idea who are you and what are you doing in here, but terrorism is not a war crime.

The only "criminal" thing in terrorism is embezzlement of funds on inefficient warfare methods and operations that don't provide any tactical or strategical advances.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Diana Kim
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#52 - 2017-05-06 02:13:54 UTC
TomHorn wrote:
Dragonaurs took part on the assault on Caldari Prime , lead the assault and captured the city of Arcurio with minimal casualties, that divison was lead by Heth.

To give such service to your nation , then be placed on a terrorist list , its shameful . Most armoured divisions involved in such an historic and successful action would be honoured by its nation, not criminalised.

We know its down to the liberals , Ishukone , Mens Reppola .

They were strong supporters of Heth ,would of been against Ishukone policies after the fall of Heth. They had to go.

They have been discharged with honors, with payment and compensations.

I recognize their merits, but their security with this Kyonoke incident has been comprpmised and in the current situation they represent significant security threat to Caldari State and our military vessels, that we must cope with.

They are still on our side. They don't fight with us and they fight against the Federation. But in the reality of current events their direct participation in the conflict under my command can no longer continue.


I am looking forward for faster revolvement of the current crisis.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Jason Galente
Hole Punchers
Drifters Stole My Local
#53 - 2017-05-06 03:06:24 UTC
Terrorism is not a war crime? You are beyond delusional honestly. I don't know why anyone wastes their time with you. I don't know why I am currently doing that.

You simply have a different version of reality from the rest of us. You're technically psychotic, Diana. Not even using it as a cheap insult, you would fit the medical definition of psychosis. You are out of touch with reality. Please. get yourself some professional assistance. You'd feel less of a need to constantly struggle against literally everyone, and we would all be better off.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost

Diana Kim
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#54 - 2017-05-06 03:13:46 UTC
Jason Galente wrote:
Terrorism is not a war crime? You are beyond delusional honestly. I don't know why anyone wastes their time with you. I don't know why I am currently doing that.

You simply have a different version of reality from the rest of us. You're technically psychotic, Diana. Not even using it as a cheap insult, you would fit the medical definition of psychosis. You are out of touch with reality. Please. get yourself some professional assistance. You'd feel less of a need to constantly struggle against literally everyone, and we would all be better off.

If you would have something to object, you'd bring a law where it is a crime.

You didn't.

Instead, you blew up with another fountain of your typical insults.


Jason Galente. Please leave this media and let adult people talk without your interventions. Find yourself some peace away from us.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Jason Galente
Hole Punchers
Drifters Stole My Local
#55 - 2017-05-06 03:28:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Jason Galente
Terrorism is a war crime in the State. Being a terrorist in the State, as considered by the State, makes you an enemy of the State. This is the case with every civilized nation in New Eden. Your inexplicable lack of knowledge on this legal subject does not make that any less the case.

I don't see why this would even be fundamentally at odds with your philosophy. Terrorists spread disorder and chaos wherever they go. They also attack State civilians, or permitted guests within the State. Terrorists commit arson, property damage, and murder, all of which are crimes. Again, not acknowledging this at even the most basic level would constitute psychosis. Believing that a terrorist is formally hired professionally like a baker or janitor is also a symptom of your psychosis.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost

kul Shaishi
Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu
#56 - 2017-05-06 03:33:03 UTC
The irony of this situation is a gallente is defending The state so this is really weird
Jason Galente
Hole Punchers
Drifters Stole My Local
#57 - 2017-05-06 03:39:45 UTC
kul Shaishi wrote:
The irony of this situation is a gallente is defending The state so this is really weird


And a Mannar at that. To be frank, it doesn't matter if I'm 'defending' the State. Treating terrorists as human refuse is a universal matter of civilized society, not Gallente vs. Caldari.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost

Diana Kim
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#58 - 2017-05-06 04:37:10 UTC
Jason Galente wrote:
Terrorism is a war crime in the State. Being a terrorist in the State, as considered by the State, makes you an enemy of the State. This is the case with every civilized nation in New Eden. Your inexplicable lack of knowledge on this legal subject does not make that any less the case.

I asked for proof, not for more barking. I'll take it you failed to provide it so we can just discard your assumptions as null and void.

Bye. And have a good jam.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Stitcher
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#59 - 2017-05-06 09:06:25 UTC
Jason Galente wrote:
Your inexplicable lack of knowledge on this legal subject does not make that any less the case.


Oh, there's nothing inexplicable about it: She's a terrorist.

A wannabe, perhaps, rather than an active one. But she's sure as hell drinking from their water cooler.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Morgana Tsukiyo
Samsara Dynamics
#60 - 2017-05-06 09:21:27 UTC
I find it interesting that he keeps talking about "Civilized Society", and i just wonder where the hell does one exist. Or did exist. In all recorded history. And unrecorded.

Everyone gets their hands dirty. Some only outsource it.

It doesn´t make you any cleaner. Nor civilized.

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