EVE General Discussion

You mean you never said:


Not to speak about your other verbal abusive posts like:


And then throw in some projection:


Look, not only was it very obvious that you liked your own posts and lie about it, you also seam to have a very strange perception of what is going on in this discussion. The vial and abusive posts are actually your speciality and not mine.

Maybe you should calm down a bit and then just stop with the lying and just admit it.

Usually he has 0-4, but if he gets really angry and abusive he suddenly has like 7 right out of the bat without a lot of people actually posting in the thread. Which is quite obvious if you ask me.

I could be wrong, but his over the top reaction about it makes me really think it is true.

Not a bad idea. We need to be carefull on what to base it on as everyone in this game min maxes and targets mostly the weakest players. To make sure newbros won't suffer hard it needs to be balanced. Mutual wardecs should be very cheap. One sided wardecs should cost little to small corps and more for larger corps or alliances. Let's say 500 million per member?

I was thinking of this being based on a per member basis in terms of the fee. If you think about it it makes sense to do it that way, and probably could not be gamed at all. So when a wardec occurs the fee is based on the number of members in a corp/alliance at the very time it occurs. This way people can't just drop corp or do other things in advance to game the system, unless I am not seeing something here.

The fee could be 500m per member and be scaled down for larger corps/alliances as they obviously can have thousands of members. There would be a LOT of math behind something like this but it is doable.

My thinking of why allow this is simply because it would give the wardecee more time to consider their options. Instead of 24 hours they could essentially buy more time to figure things out, teach corp members about how to be safe during a wardec, and investigate their options in fighting back. That is of course if the wardeccer is persistent, which they are in many cases. Please continue to give feedback based on this idea, but I believe it could definitely work!

find highsec mercs, theres a channel i used once when we needed mercs was a wormhole channel you dont gotta pay only thing they want is content

This has to be a troll post, PH isn't permadecced? You would never be able to leave. I've lived in null for a little over a year and BOT has had maybe 5 days where no one was at war with us.

Honestly, I think anything that changes to the current war mechanic will be bad.

My reasoning is that this is a well thought out game where everything is linked. People actually want to be in corps so this creates an opportunity for PVP by using the wardec mechanic. Most games real life or virtual thrive on the ability to freely compete against others with some minor sanctions (like 24 hour wait for legal war and paying for the war). War drives the economy which will make the miners and manufacturers happy.

The only thing ABLE to interrupt the delicate balance should be ........player choice...... and not a change of mechanics. The trick is to find a way to box clever and make it so that the wardeccers are the ones crying on the forum. Analyse the mechanics with some buddies and come to the most logical conclusion to keep your assets safe. Don't get too caught up in this elitists way of thinking (being in a corp) Remember this is a virtual world that you can manipulate to an extent.

If you and your buddies are struggling to fight a wardec...put the corp on ice for a while....chill out, become NPC, get some beer with your buddies and work out a plan, talk to other people about it gain interest, go back to your corp and fight the good fight.

CEOs, I havent forgotten about you guys....GOOD GOD MAN!!!!! (tries to talk like the old skool Dr mccoy in star trek...DeForest Kelley) IGNORING YOUR FELLOW CEO IN ANOTHER CORP IS NOT THE ANSWER!!!!

You hi sec CEO's have major things in common, link up and talk to each other man, back each other up because youre fighting the exact same fight. Listen, I will create a voice channel in my up and coming venture just for the CEO's of hi sec, use it, go in there and make friends, talk about your plans, help each other on gate camps even if you only got 10 minutes to spare. Lets get some serious gameplay going.

I think you are absolutely right. The wardecs itself are fine as they are. The only people who complain about the actual wardec mechanic are people who would rather have total isolation and just don't want to deal with the whole thing. No change other than a removal or a nerf which makes it completely nonviable to use will make them happy anyway.

On the other hand the pure wardec mechanic is not complete without taking all the other systems like locator agents and the "buddy list" into account. I think there is a lot of opportunity for improvement in those systems and I think we will see some mechanics change if they release observation structures.

I mean the current locator agent implementation is in serious need of an overhaul. Even the interface cries out for a change, you can't even drag&drop names in there and that is only the beginning.

I like your attitude and ideas there Aaron, but getting a bunch of self-centered carebear corps to work together like you propose would probably be like trying to heard cats during a thunderstorm. These people seem to generally only care about their own ventures. Sometimes I wonder if half of these 'buyback' corporations are merely just nullsec/lowsec players that run multiple highsec corps to farm ore for them on the cheap (and benefit from the tax income as well of course). Maybe there are some that are pretty good out there though that can and will fight back and are true corporations with people working together. The real trick here is making them realize it is in all their best interests to partner together, learn to pvp in fleets, learn to use scouts and intel (mark various groups as terrible standing to make it easier to spot them), and learn to use dscan as well obviously.

I think this is wishful thinking if I'm understanding you right. They need to continue to endure wardec's, and in learning to do so they will then be in a better position to revise their playstyle and make changes. Maybe it was the way it was worded, but I'm not getting it. Why can't they make changes while they are being wardecced? And how is anything going to change after all of these years by keeping things as they are? If they haven't changed their behavior by now they likely won't at all.