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A short announcement related to TD involvement in Kyonoke attacks.

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Diana Kim
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#1 - 2017-05-04 21:31:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
With CEP statement of Dragonaurs involvement in spreading of Kyonoke infection inside Caldari State borders, and the dominant amount of Dragonaur personnel on service on my vessels, the following measures will be taken.

1) All Dragonaur crewmembers in service on my vessels, that are flying under the banner of Caldari State, State Protectorate and Caldari Militia Coalition, are to be immediately discharged from the service.

2) Their unfinished service terms will be paid in full and compensated according to their contracts with compensation for premature contract termination by the employer.

3) No Dragonaur-affiliated personnel will be hired as crewmembers on my vessels until further notice.

Effective from now, 04.05.YC119.

D. Kim, Strike Cmdr.
State Protectorate
Caldari State

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Morgana Tsukiyo
Samsara Dynamics
#2 - 2017-05-04 21:34:45 UTC
That´s very reasonable of you Ms Kim.

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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#3 - 2017-05-04 21:43:40 UTC
I disagree with this decision. The allegation of Dragonaur involvement is obviously planted by Gallentean or Minmatar intelligence agencies or by traitors within the State.
Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2017-05-04 21:45:13 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
With CEP statement of Dragonaurs involvement in spreading of Kyonoke infection inside Caldari State borders


Just to be clear here, Diana, are you saying your only objection is that they used a biological weapon inside Caldari space? Using it on multiple civilian populations outside the State was perfectly ok for you?
Diana Kim
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#5 - 2017-05-04 21:49:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
Nauplius wrote:
I disagree with this decision. The allegation of Dragonaur involvement is obviously planted by Gallentean or Minmatar intelligence agencies or by traitors within the State.

Or they have committed treason. Or it's just FIO attack on Dragonaurs. We don't know much, but I can't take risk and carry potential threat to Caldari State inside my ships. Until those who did that belong or hiding among Dragonaur ranks or just pretend to be Dragonaurs, there will be no Dragonaur on my ship.

I'll let CBT and TD solve it. Meanwhile, I have the State to protect, from foreign and domestic enemies alike.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#6 - 2017-05-04 22:29:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
Ms. Kim, please report the identity of any known Templis Dragonaur to relevant naval authorities. Per the Chief Executive Panel, those men and women are terrorists, and you have been harboring them.

In this instance, while they are no longer in your service, corrective action is surely needed. Otherwise, you may well have aided and abetted any crimes they have committed in the intervening years.

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Dusklit Thistle
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2017-05-04 22:49:21 UTC
... I doubt that any Dragonaurs could tolerate being around me for too long, but I'll keep on the lookout for any attempting to infiltrate my crew pending my departure.

Shady gentleman with a shady plan

Diana Kim
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#8 - 2017-05-04 22:55:22 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Ms. Kim, please report the identity of any known Templis Dragonaur to relevant naval authorities. Per the Chief Executive Panel, those men and women are terrorists, and you have been harboring them.

In this instance, while they are no longer in your service, corrective action is surely needed. Otherwise, you may well have aided and abetted any crimes they have committed in the intervening years.

I didn't have any criminals on my ships.
Besides that, you are in no power to tell military officer how to conduct affairs, dishonorable liar.
Know your place.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#9 - 2017-05-04 23:00:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
For public consideration;

Let us note for the record that one Diana Kim has now openly stated that Templus Dragonaur were a dominant amount of her crew, that she has knowingly provided them with employment for several years despite CEP affirming their status as terrorists, and that she is now stating that she has no intent to report known terrorists to the Caldari Navy or the Chief Executive Panel, even as the State mourns the deaths of nearly fifteen million in Myrskaa at the hands of a Templis Dragonaur conspiracy.

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Diana Kim
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#10 - 2017-05-04 23:12:03 UTC
For public consideration;

Makoto Priano is an infamous slanderer, who spread lies about Caldari officers. She has been doing it for quite some time. She has also lost her honor when was found to be unable to defend herself after she was caught in spreading public lies on this exact IGS forum.

Further information is available here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=381560

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2017-05-04 23:13:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Arrendis
Actually, Makoto, since she's been paying them, they've attacked the State, and money is fungible*, wouldn't that mean she's been materially supporting terrorist activities against the State? In fact, since she's been making money off of their activites—specifically, their activities as her crew—doesn't that mean that her ships have effectively been a terrorist front? That opens her up to all sorts of conspiracy and racketeering charges if she doesn't inform the State of the locations of those Dragonaur she knows about.

I mean, speaking as someone who was a corporate officer in Caldari space for a time, and had to deal with potential criminal liability issues, and all.

* - Fungibility basically means that once money enters a common pool, one credit is indistinguishable from another. So if you need 40 ISK for ammo and 60 ISK for fuel, and I give you 50 ISK and Ali gives you 50 ISK, when you hit Jita a week later and buy everything, neither one of us can claim we were only giving you money for gas, because it's impossible to tell, ultimately, whose money went to buy the missiles.
Diana Kim
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#12 - 2017-05-04 23:23:30 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Actually, Makoto, since she's been paying them, they've attacked the State, and money is fungible*, wouldn't that mean she's been materially supporting terrorist activities against the State?

No, and only complete idiots could believe in that nonsense.

Please keep your paranoid delusions away from this thread, goon.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2017-05-04 23:25:36 UTC
Ah, Diana, welcome to the lovely world of Racketeering in Criminal Organizations laws. You might want to study up on them.
Evi Polevhia
Chiranjivi
#14 - 2017-05-04 23:26:10 UTC
Tad late to try to distance yourself from the Dragonaur's. Some rats fleet a sinking ship. You're currently tunneling up through the wreckage on the sea bed. Even when you emerge from the disaster, you will still find yourself deep under water.
Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#15 - 2017-05-04 23:27:17 UTC
Essentially, Arrendis, yes. Given that she's knowingly provided aid to a terrorist organization, she may very well be complicit in their crimes. I suspect it'd warrant a court martial, were she anything more than an independent contractor.

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Diana Kim
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#16 - 2017-05-04 23:37:43 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Essentially, Arrendis, yes. Given that she's knowingly provided aid to a terrorist organization, she may very well be complicit in their crimes. I suspect it'd warrant a court martial, were she anything more than an independent contractor.

If it'd be possible, I'd court martial you ages ago.

Luckily, I didn't commit any crimes against Caldari State, both my honor and criminal records are clean, and I am open for any investigation, or to visiting any court martial if they would present any charge against me.

Obviously, barkings (or whatever else you spew out from behind your fence) of such dishonorable liar like you, Makoto, can't and won't be considered as a charge.

Disappear.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#17 - 2017-05-04 23:45:02 UTC
What is worse? Diana Kim knowingly hiring known terrorists or people like me who are guilty of not asking?

On a more serious note;

Congrats for coming to that conclusion Kim. I doubt it was a hard decision for you.
Yoshitaka Moromuo
Burning Skies
Apocalypse Now.
#18 - 2017-05-04 23:45:35 UTC
I believe a simple question would warrant an answer here: were they known to be Dragonaur members or affiliates while within your employ?
Diana Kim
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#19 - 2017-05-04 23:52:17 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
What is worse? Diana Kim knowingly hiring known terrorists or people like me who are guilty of not asking?

On a more serious note;

Congrats for coming to that conclusion Kim. I doubt it was a hard decision for you.

I hire crewmembers and ship personnel, trained for ship combat, not for terrorism.

Terrorism is poor man's war. I need better trained personnel than terrorists. I need professionals. I would never hire incompetent crewmembers.

Neither I ever had an open position of "terrorist" on my ship. Tell me, Ms. Vess, do minmatar ships have terrorist position in crewmembers? Our Caldari ships don't.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#20 - 2017-05-04 23:53:56 UTC
Yoshitaka Moromuo wrote:
I believe a simple question would warrant an answer here: were they known to be Dragonaur members or affiliates while within your employ?


And if the answer to that is 'yes' it means Diana can do nothing more than expel them, since they are only responsible to her for:

1. Things they did prior to being in her employ that they hid from her against the terms of their contract.
2. Things they did whilst in her employee that were against the terms of their contract.

If Diana offered an olive branch to people that she felt were unfairly maligned citizens of the State who she believed deserved a fresh chance then that is between her and her employees and anyone in a position of authority over her.

Given the number of people I know within this community who employ terrorists, criminals and traitors there are damn few who in a position to truly judge her.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

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