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May 9th update is the reason i will not extend my subscription

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manus
Subhypersonics
#1 - 2017-05-04 12:42:27 UTC  |  Edited by: manus
Lets see, faction capital ships. Kind of interesting, but not really.

New suns. Really? Another graphics update? Stop this madness CCP. It is not the graphics that make the game. And it doesent make people stick around. I mean people still play runescape for pete's sake. In contrast its not unusual for AAA games with state of the art graphics to become complete flops. I mean CCP doesent even seem to understand their own buisness model. When you are subscription based, you need to deliver content. Not fluff graphics. Fluff graphics only works for AAA games that only have to sell a copy and then move on. They dont need to keep the player around. CCP does and content matters more than graphics but i see almost no emphasis on content from CCP's side. Do they not want to make money?

New introduction video? Why would i care?

Plex changes? Seems interesting. But doesent really have much to do with gameplay?

Gifting? Just what the game needed to stay interesting /s

Alliance logo on citadels? Oh man, this is uninteresting. Its just fluff.

Special edition ships? Come on CCP. Stop this madness. We need actual interesting and original content!



CCP ought to make a commitment to include at least 10 QoL suggestions per update from the QoL thread over in Features and Ideas section. And they ought to have at least 1 larger, original idea for each update instead of this weak ass content like the may update brings and they need to get started right now.
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#2 - 2017-05-04 12:50:37 UTC
May I have your stuff and vintage SP, please?

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.

Yebo Lakatosh
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2017-05-04 12:58:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Yebo Lakatosh
manus wrote:
We need actual interesting and original content!
Thank you for providing us such interesting and original content on the Forum!

If the content you provide ingame just half as good as your post, it's a great loss that you are leaving. Lucky for us, New Eden is full of players who contribute just as much as you did, so we don't need CCP to have fun!


I also offer you a monthly 3% interest on whatever ISK or assets you invest in a very active and dedicated newbee like me while you are away.

Elite F1 pilot since YC119, incarnate of honor, integrity and tidi.

Ash Ray
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2017-05-04 13:05:43 UTC
You've been playing since 2004 and THIS is the update that made you quit? Really? Straight
manus
Subhypersonics
#5 - 2017-05-04 13:16:26 UTC  |  Edited by: manus
It seems CCP has lost its sense of direction so im not going to continue supporting them. On top of this boring May update it also seems like they decided making a new world map would be a good idea even tho the old one is perfectly fine. Their priorities seem messed up.

Its not a coincidence that player counts seem to be dropping. Who the hell is in charge of this?

Take a look at CCP's webpage lately? Its cringe
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#6 - 2017-05-04 13:30:43 UTC
manus wrote:
It seems CCP has lost its sense of direction so im not going to continue supporting them. On top of this boring May update it also seems like they decided making a new world map would be a good idea even tho the old one is perfectly fine. Their priorities seem messed up.

Its not a coincidence that player counts seem to be dropping. Who the hell is in charge of this?

Take a look at CCP's webpage lately? Its cringe

That trend has been going on for over 5 years now.. Took you a while to notice..

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.

SupaL33tH4x0r Regime
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#7 - 2017-05-04 13:37:09 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:
manus wrote:
It seems CCP has lost its sense of direction so im not going to continue supporting them. On top of this boring May update it also seems like they decided making a new world map would be a good idea even tho the old one is perfectly fine. Their priorities seem messed up.

Its not a coincidence that player counts seem to be dropping. Who the hell is in charge of this?

Take a look at CCP's webpage lately? Its cringe

That trend has been going on for over 5 years now.. Took you a while to notice..


yeah it has been going for a long while

CCP plans big expansion
*Exciting name*
scans notes and sees tweaks, rebalances and other mine stuff.
wtf ccp
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#8 - 2017-05-04 13:43:08 UTC
Bought a coffee but what i truly need is a 30 min nap brb.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard

Blade Darth
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#9 - 2017-05-04 13:54:07 UTC
Current suns look like graphic experiments from 1997 and make pvp on sun grids (literally) painful.
The new suns gonna be both quality of life and new content (more ships blowing up on sun grids = content).

Rest of the update is meh but what do you expect, to top Citadel every 6 months?
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#10 - 2017-05-04 13:56:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
manus wrote:
It seems CCP has lost its sense of direction so im not going to continue supporting them. On top of this boring May update it also seems like they decided making a new world map would be a good idea even tho the old one is perfectly fine. Their priorities seem messed up.

Its not a coincidence that player counts seem to be dropping. Who the hell is in charge of this?

Take a look at CCP's webpage lately? Its cringe

You should have posted that on reddit.

I am afraid it wil be locked for ranting.
Yebo Lakatosh
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2017-05-04 14:02:13 UTC
By the way, the bees on the keepstars is one of the best improvements since the Alpha program - the one that resulted in some of the highest quality content New Eden has ever seen, for example me.

Elite F1 pilot since YC119, incarnate of honor, integrity and tidi.

Salt Foambreaker
Greedy Pirates
#12 - 2017-05-04 14:15:36 UTC
Waa there is nothing in it for me, WAAAAAA
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2017-05-04 14:21:20 UTC
CCP does not has to implement content but give us the means to create it.
That is the real problem.
I see the coming conflict drivers with a laughing and a crying eye. Problem is that it is nothing for small scale...the bigger you are the better you fare.
sigh

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP

Cade Windstalker
#14 - 2017-05-04 14:29:52 UTC
Seems like a lot of "I'm quitting because CCP did stuff other people like this update instead of doing stuff I want!" which is, um, really really selfish. Like, I mean, fair enough but you seem to think your priorities line up with the rest of the playerbase, and considering the forums and r/Eve both could have been confused for an astronomy enthusiasts community when the new suns hit the PTS I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you do not speak for anything close to the majority.

manus wrote:
CCP ought to make a commitment to include at least 10 QoL suggestions per update from the QoL thread over in Features and Ideas section. And they ought to have at least 1 larger, original idea for each update instead of this weak ass content like the may update brings and they need to get started right now.


This specifically is manager-think. It's the sort of thing a manager comes up with when they need quantifiable signs of progress to put on a powerpoint presentation for higher ups, rather than being an actually good idea or practice. The next update will, very likely, include a lot of smaller fixes and tweaks, just like most updates have for the last 4-5 years. That doesn't mean they need to update us on every little thing, that's what the patch notes are for, and it certainly doesn't mean they need to try to meet some arbitrary quota.

Same for "one new original X" not everything needs to be new and 100% original and whatever. Just for a start completely new stuff takes a lot of time to develop and that doesn't mesh with CCP's current release schedule. We got about one new thing per patch, maybe, when CCP was doing 6 month releases. The current system is miles better for everyone, devs and players.

You also seem to have completely missed the Bloodraider Shipyards, or you just don't care about them and therefore arbitrarily count them as not new content because they don't interest you. Considering the tech behind them and what that tech has the potential to do going forward they're probably the most significant piece of PvE content CCP has put out since the Sleeper AI.

So yeah.... can I have your stuff? LolPirate
Scialt
Corporate Navy Police Force
Sleep Reapers
#15 - 2017-05-04 14:34:22 UTC
manus wrote:
Lets see, faction capital ships. Kind of interesting, but not really.

New suns. Really? Another graphics update? Stop this madness CCP. It is not the graphics that make the game. And it doesent make people stick around. I mean people still play runescape for pete's sake. In contrast its not unusual for AAA games with state of the art graphics to become complete flops. I mean CCP doesent even seem to understand their own buisness model. When you are subscription based, you need to deliver content. Not fluff graphics. Fluff graphics only works for AAA games that only have to sell a copy and then move on. They dont need to keep the player around. CCP does and content matters more than graphics but i see almost no emphasis on content from CCP's side. Do they not want to make money?

New introduction video? Why would i care?

Plex changes? Seems interesting. But doesent really have much to do with gameplay?

Gifting? Just what the game needed to stay interesting /s

Alliance logo on citadels? Oh man, this is uninteresting. Its just fluff.

Special edition ships? Come on CCP. Stop this madness. We need actual interesting and original content!



CCP ought to make a commitment to include at least 10 QoL suggestions per update from the QoL thread over in Features and Ideas section. And they ought to have at least 1 larger, original idea for each update instead of this weak ass content like the may update brings and they need to get started right now.


Isn't the "faction capital ships" statement covering the actual added content to the game. The blood raider shipyards that players will have to run in order to get those capital ships? That is an actual new place that players have to play in... which is usually what is meant by added content.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#16 - 2017-05-04 14:43:00 UTC
manus wrote:
Why would i care?
It's not all about you, dude. It's all about me. And I do care.

So it will happen with my blessing.

Mr Epeen Cool
Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2017-05-04 15:09:47 UTC
manus wrote:
Lets see, faction capital ships. Kind of interesting, but not really.

why the hell not? why should only some factions get capitals and not roll them out across the others?
but you seem to be completely breezing over the more important part about this, its not actually the capitals themselves. but the test bed for the new PVE system. which from everything i've seen looks VERY promising.

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New suns. Really? Another graphics update?

your right, after all this is supposed to be spreadsheets online, why should the graphics need to be updated on a decade+ old game. its not like the beauty of the eve universe is a selling point for some people or anything.

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New introduction video? Why would i care?

the intro video isn't FOR you, its for the new players to help get them hyped. and this is one of the better ones in recent memory.

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Plex changes? Seems interesting. But doesent really have much to do with gameplay?

for some people plex IS a major component of the way they play the game. for example I consume roughly 20 plex a month across all of my accounts. so the increased granularity is going to have a major impact on how I play, and is going to make my market activity much more convenient.

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Gifting? Just what the game needed to stay interesting /s

why the hell not? don't have any friends to give gifts too, then dont.

Alliance logo on citadels? Oh man, this is uninteresting. Its just fluff.

-- alliance logos on stuff has been one of the most heavily requested features since at least 08.



Special edition ships? Come on CCP. Stop this madness. We need actual interesting and original content!

-- new and interesting content... you mean like new ships? you really seem to hate on new ships actually since you didn't like the faction capitals either.


CCP ought to make a commitment to include at least 10 QoL suggestions per update from the QoL thread over in Features and Ideas section. And they ought to have at least 1 larger, original idea for each update instead of this weak ass content like the may update brings and they need to get started right now.

CCP HAS been working on QoL tweeks with just about every recent update. thing about QoL tweeks, is they aren't "interesting and original content" and they don't necessarily impact every single person in the game.

also can I have your SP?
ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#18 - 2017-05-04 16:38:55 UTC
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33. "Quitting" posts are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience channel.

CCP recognize that during the course of gameplay a lot of friendships are made between players and that sometimes if a player is taking a break or departing from the EVE universe that they would like to say goodbye on the forums. Posts of this nature are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum, and must be civil and well worded.


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