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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#101 - 2017-05-03 12:43:08 UTC
Aedaxus wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Ah, high sec war dec complaint thread # 4,612,491, right on time.

And If I dare suggest people try the other 84.5% of New Eden space that isn't high sec (while at the same time supposedly being SAFER THAN HIGH SEC according to just about everyone in high sec), well that's just wrong, ain't it...


Hi, I think you are new to EVE Online so I'll explain it to you :

1.0 -> 0.5 : High Sec, PVE Region, is controlled by one of the 4 Races (Gallente-Caldari/Amarr-Minmatar)
0.4 -> .01 : Low Sec, PVE/PVP hybrid region, here power is more and more transferred to the players. Also the region where bad/idiot players are driven if they loose security status but that mechanics has been avoided by alting and will be severely negated by the alpha accounts as soon as the slow people one day will come to understand the world of no holds barred ganking opportunities that arise from it.
0.0 -> -0.9 : Nullsec , PVP Region completely controlled by players.










What kind of trolling is this?

And there is no such thing as a 'pvp region' in EVE. I notice a bunch of high sec partisans using this term recently, which is related to the much older (but equally stupid) idea that "if someone wants pvp they should go to low/WH/null sec".

EVe Online has allowed non-consensual pvp everywhere since day one. If there was a "PVE area" in EVE, it would be easy yo find because your guns would steadfastly refuse to shoot characters controlled by other human beings. But no such place exist in the mechanics, and the only places like that that do exist are merely policy exceptions (rookie systems and the SOE arc).

I mostly PVE (turns out that NPC pirates like Angels and Guristas are actually smarter than real people, I have yet to see an NPC on this forum complain about how much I'm ganking them for their deadspace loot....which is all the time lol), so people ask why I care.

The truth is that I find people who try to "rhetoric their way out of reality" (ie these high sec folks who would rather argue about core game mechanics rather than learn the game and learn to deal with their own personal faults) to be the most irritating kind of people I could imagine. The truth is that they are emotionally impotent people who wouldn't have the problem they complain about so much if they spent their time learning rather than complaining.

And frankly, I enjoy their reactions when people expose them to the truth, it's seriously like watching a vampire realize he's not in a coffin, but rather he's in a tanning booth.
Twisted
Aedaxus
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#102 - 2017-05-03 12:59:56 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:

What kind of trolling is this?

I have yet to see an NPC on this forum complain about how much I'm ganking them for their deadspace loot.

The truth is that I find people who try to "rhetoric their way out of reality" (ie these high sec folks who would rather argue about core game mechanics rather than learn the game and learn to deal with their own personal faults) to be the most irritating kind of people I could imagine. The truth is that they are emotionally impotent people who wouldn't have the problem they complain about so much if they spent their time learning rather than complaining.

And frankly, I enjoy their reactions when people expose them to the truth, it's seriously like watching a vampire realize he's not in a coffin, but rather he's in a tanning booth.
Twisted


Basic trolling I guess, like in "They see me trollin', they hatin'". NPC's aren't humans. Just saying. They don't care because they are emotionally impotent unlike highsec carebears. I don't argue about core game mechanics, I just state how CCP implemented a game. Also I only played for 10 years so I still have a lot to learn about EVE Online.


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Salvos Rhoska
#103 - 2017-05-03 13:02:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Its not trolling.
They just dont yet understand how EVE works.
Its part of the learning curve and many people have never played anything like this game

No idea what this "emotionally impotent" crap mentioned by the 2 posters above is supposed to mean.

Wtf does EVE have to with emotions?

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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#104 - 2017-05-03 13:52:12 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Wtf does EVE have to with emotions?

EVE is all about emotions Salvos. And it manages to trigger emotions in a way no other game does. Some people don't like that, so they want to tone it down and make EVE boring and emotionally dull like all those other games, just because they can't handle a ship loss or even the simple thought of losing one.

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Salvos Rhoska
#105 - 2017-05-03 13:58:44 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Wtf does EVE have to with emotions?

EVE is all about emotions Salvos. And it manages to trigger emotions in a way no other game does. Some people don't like that, so they want to tone it down and make EVE boring and emotionally dull like all those other games, just because they can't handle a ship loss or even the simple thought of losing one.


What does "emotionally incompetent" mean?

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Aedaxus
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#106 - 2017-05-03 14:01:04 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Wtf does EVE have to with emotions?

EVE is all about emotions Salvos. And it manages to trigger emotions in a way no other game does. Some people don't like that, so they want to tone it down and make EVE boring and emotionally dull like all those other games, just because they can't handle a ship loss or even the simple thought of losing one.


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Salvos Rhoska
#107 - 2017-05-03 14:06:28 UTC
Aedaxus wrote:
Even Internet has sites that make me want to cry and sob and sit in a corner..


Did the internets make you cry and sob in a corner? :(
So sad... :(

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Yebo Lakatosh
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#108 - 2017-05-03 14:08:05 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Its not trolling.
They just dont yet understand how EVE works.?
I can't ingest that a 10 year old capsuleer writes "Highsec is a PvE area" for reasons other than trolling. And he waves that 10 years like it would signify wisdom and experience, thus reliability in such matters.

Though.. you may be right. He may not be a troll. Let me test..

Aedaxus, please contract me your ISK and valuables! I want to teach you something super-useful, but I need your stuff as a first step.

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Salvos Rhoska
#109 - 2017-05-03 14:12:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Yebo Lakatosh wrote:
I can't ingest that a 10 year old capsuleer writes "Highsec is a PvE area" for reasons other than trolling.


Its a 10yr vet? Yeah, should know better by now.
I didnt bother to check background.

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Yebo Lakatosh
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#110 - 2017-05-03 14:15:33 UTC
Me neither. :]
Aedaxus wrote:
Also I only played for 10 years so I still have a lot to learn about EVE Online.

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Aedaxus
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#111 - 2017-05-03 14:19:56 UTC
Yebo Lakatosh wrote:
[quote=Salvos Rhoska]Aedaxus, please contract me your ISK and valuables! I want to teach you something super-useful, but I need your stuff as a first step.

You mean that scamming ingame is allowed? Even in high sec? But ... but not in a 1.0 like Jita right? Right? ;P
Keno Skir
#112 - 2017-05-03 14:22:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Keno Skir
Aedaxus wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:

What kind of trolling is this?

I have yet to see an NPC on this forum complain about how much I'm ganking them for their deadspace loot.

The truth is that I find people who try to "rhetoric their way out of reality" (ie these high sec folks who would rather argue about core game mechanics rather than learn the game and learn to deal with their own personal faults) to be the most irritating kind of people I could imagine. The truth is that they are emotionally impotent people who wouldn't have the problem they complain about so much if they spent their time learning rather than complaining.

And frankly, I enjoy their reactions when people expose them to the truth, it's seriously like watching a vampire realize he's not in a coffin, but rather he's in a tanning booth.
Twisted


Basic trolling I guess, like in "They see me trollin', they hatin'". NPC's aren't humans. Just saying. They don't care because they are emotionally impotent unlike highsec carebears. I don't argue about core game mechanics, I just state how CCP implemented a game. Also I only played for 10 years so I still have a lot to learn about EVE Online.


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I'm amazed you still think Hisec is a "PvE area" and nulsec is a "PvP Area" after **cough** "10 years" playing.

Most PvE money as far as i'm aware comes from nulsec, by a huge margin. Please explain how Hisec is the "PvE area", as if something like that even exists.

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Salvos Rhoska
#113 - 2017-05-03 14:25:09 UTC
Wtf does "emotionally incompetent" mean?

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Keno Skir
#114 - 2017-05-03 14:26:29 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Wtf does "emotionally incompetent" mean?


At the most basic i'd say it means "unable to keep emotions under control".

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#115 - 2017-05-03 14:29:11 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Wtf does EVE have to with emotions?

EVE is all about emotions Salvos. And it manages to trigger emotions in a way no other game does. Some people don't like that, so they want to tone it down and make EVE boring and emotionally dull like all those other games, just because they can't handle a ship loss or even the simple thought of losing one.


Damn, that's spot on. Though I would add "they only THINK they want it dull, if it actually became dull, they'd leave and go find another game that is exciting that they can then lobby to make dull so they can leave that one too". Because people don't actually know what they like.

Isn't that really the difference between good players and bad players? Bad players have these false , idealistic and utopian ideas of how things are 'supposed to work' and good players just see the raw reality and act accordingly (or choose to not play video games they don't like in the 1st place).
Salvos Rhoska
#116 - 2017-05-03 14:29:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Keno Skir wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Wtf does "emotionally incompetent" mean?


At the most basic i'd say it means "unable to keep emotions under control".


Thanks.

But that would be "emotionally incontinent".

"Incompetent" means something else.

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#117 - 2017-05-03 14:32:27 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Keno Skir wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Wtf does "emotionally incompetent" mean?


At the most basic i'd say it means "unable to keep emotions under control".


Thanks.

But that would be "emotionally incontinent".

"Incompetent" means something else.


So you're telling everyone that in addition to not being able to read, you don't have a good grasp of English to begin with? No one would use the word Incontinent that way.
Salvos Rhoska
#118 - 2017-05-03 14:38:58 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Keno Skir wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Wtf does "emotionally incompetent" mean?


At the most basic i'd say it means "unable to keep emotions under control".


Thanks.

But that would be "emotionally incontinent".

"Incompetent" means something else.


So you're telling everyone that in addition to not being able to read, you don't have a good grasp of English to begin with? No one would use the word Incontinent that way.


Incompetent doesn't mean what you think it means.

It has a specific meaning in English.

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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#119 - 2017-05-03 14:40:58 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Keno Skir wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Wtf does "emotionally incompetent" mean?


At the most basic i'd say it means "unable to keep emotions under control".


Thanks.

But that would be "emotionally incontinent".

"Incompetent" means something else.

Are you gona Salvosch this thread now with your incoherent ramblings about linguistic stuff no one but you has a problem understanding?

EDIT:
eww, he already started

Evil RatKid
Aaron
Eternal Frontier
#120 - 2017-05-03 14:53:46 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:

I especially like how you always rush in your alts to like your own posts if you feel threatened. Did it hurt so much to hear the truth? Big smile

You couldn't be more wrong even if you tried. Unfortunately I don't have enough alts to match the numbers.

But hey, thanks for telling me how you meta-game the forums.

I just think it is quite pathetic to like your own posts because you think that reinforces your weak point. Don't bother to lie about it it's quite obvious. Not sure why you think this has something to do with meta-gaming.


I always give DMC likes. 4 so far in this thread alone.

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