Intergalactic Summit

Excellent!! Let's see the merit of your ideals tested in the marketplace of ideas!

I doubt your way, which involves attacking former kirjuunen of mine and opposing the will of my adoptive mother, will lead to the true future of the State, but don't be persuaded by words! Place your material in the crucible and let us see.

I could actually hear this post in your voice, and that reminds me.

For all our power we capsuleers hold very little sway when it comes to the policy and diplomatic decision making of the major factions of New Eden. When is the last time capsuleers were invited to sit down with the Federal Senate or the Chief Executive Panel and make a meaningful contribution to the course of cluster politics? When is the last time we were even given a voice in the political arena? This is why so many capsuleers have taken it upon themselves to create their own factions independent of the politics of their nations of birth.

What we as capsuleers do have is access to high grade military ordinance and hefty industrial clout. CONCORD and the empires recognize this and do their best to make sure it serves their own ends, which is to say the maintenance of the status quo. The current war is an example of this. There is no condition for victory and nationalists imbued with virtual immortality on both sides ensure that there is always someone to push the front-line back and forth. This is a war without end, one which drives a war economy that generates income for CONCORD and the governments involved while also keeping capsuleers on a leash. As long as someone profits the war will not end. As long as capsuleers are tempted to kill for mathematically calculated Loyalty Points the war will not end.

An ideal solution would be to convince capsuleers not to involve themselves in the war, but if words hold little weight why not speak with guns? I personally have no qualms attacking militia members when I see them in Intaki space. We never agreed to have them in our space and if I have the power to physically remove them I will do so. I know I'm not the only Intaki who feels this way, Fading Light may find friends among the Intaki sovereignty movement.

So with all that said, I applaud this effort from Fading Light. If I run into your members in Placid I'll be sure to say hello and maybe we can work together.

It is as they say a "noble cause."

I have heard the cry for this certain banner before just with a different name and a slightly different focus.

I can't say that I entirely disprove of the cause as the concerns of not only capsuleers but number of baseliners whose only vested interest is surviving another day.

Indeed, this man understands... if it works out, then good, if not, at least we know we tried to make a difference and unfortunately didn't succeed.

Also, Pieter, to be clear I have no hard feelings for those fighting in the defense of the State, or of the Fed. The vast majority of individuals such as Commander Adams and his comrades are doing what they feel is right, and we are doing what we feel will lead to long-term success. No hard feelings, the only people we truly consider to be our enemies are those profiting from the bloodshed with no other goal than making ISK, or pirates living in the area thriving on the instability and opportunities it presents.

All others, we respect their intents, and hope they will respect ours (and perhaps, one day, sympathize).

Sweet Maker.

Another mongrel barks at Caldari State, saying they would come to shoot us. Well, would be fun seeing this "Faded Light" on field, though somehow I don't believe people like her would have courage to show up.

I have seen that person already, and if I am not mistaken, I even were offering it to come and fight after she was spreading public slanders in summer YC118, when she appeared in a public channel and began behaving offensively towards Caldari Officers.

She never came. They are just words.

Meanwhile, I urge all citizens of the State to keep fighting the good fight and keep kicking out foreign occupants together with pirates like Faded Light out from our space.

I know some of members of Faded Light quite well.

In one member very well.

As friend of yours it's my duty to warn you.

Strike at them and consider it a strike against me.

Consider your next move carefully

I actually have a question about this: what makes you believe ending the Pendulum Games is a noble cause?

Don't get me wrong, I think that from the point of view of the pilots, ships, and crews involved, they're futile and idiotic, but why do you think ending them is noble?

I mean, consider what came before: warfare between the empires was uncontained. Instead of maybe two- or three-score systems, fighting could (and did) break out anywhere, especially along the borders. That fighting was unrestricted, as well. Consider what a return to that would mean now. Right now, the most common form of 'faction warfare' is a few frigates here or there contesting a completely artificial point-scoring mechanic in space. That's all the complexes are, after all: a way to keep score in the bloodsport. Turn it back into real warfare, with modern industrial capabilities, with Upwell structures available... and the ships lost will be trending toward capital fleets, just as they have in null.

Do you think ending the Pendulum Games will solve the tensions between nations? Do you think the Caldari and Gallente nationalists will be less eager to shoot one another? End the Pendulum, and Kim will no longer insist the Federation must be destroyed? There's a reason the Pendulum continues, a reason beyond simply 'it pays well'. Sure, for some, that's the motivation. But not for all. And not for the baseliner crews who could be hiring on to berthings with mission-runners or freight pilots. There are a large number of people out there in New Eden who want to kill 'the enemy', and 'the enemy' isn't something for CONCORD or anyone else to identify or deny. 'The enemy' is who 'the enemy' has been for centuries, since the earliest days of their peoples' travels in space.

From the Empires' viewpoint, the Pendulum is a pressure valve. Directing the violent, the nationalist extremists, and the nihilistic into a channeled, bounded never-ending war keeps the capsuleers busy, and keeps the baseliner extremists' numbers thinning. It keeps them from being agitators within their nations. Without the Pendulum, how many more extremist nationalists would go the route of the Kasaras family? After all, they're already willing to kill. They're already willing to die.

Make the case for why hundreds or thousands more of them should be left circulating through the general population, though the Navies, or the Customs forces. Make the case for why you think this futile, ultimately irrelevant (in terms of winning or losing that territory for real) isn't doing exactly what it's designed to do: averting another wide-spread, galaxy-encompassing war.

Make the case for why you think it is noble to convince the empires that a few tens of thousands of bloodthirsty extremists—including the baseliner crews—killing one another is too high a price to pay to avoid the possibility of millions of people on thousands of ships slaughtering not just one another, but countless non-combatants, as well.

Tell me why endangering more people is noble.

EDIT: No point not naming Kim now, she's turned up.

Ms. Leshrac, then I am afraid you don't know them very well, because I do know them as yapping cowards, who were spreading slanders. I can send you their quotes through the mail if you are interested.

Also, I would like to WARN you myself. Now they have publically declared their intent of attacking Caldari State. And that does mean they are the enemy. This does mean I shall and WILL attack them on contact, because it is my job, and I do - and intend to do it in future - in full.

I do exterminate the enemies. By ANY means necessary. And everyone who will dare to stand on our way of protecting citizens of Caldari State, will be CRUSHED down without mercy and regret.

Meanwhile, if you really would like to stand on enemy side - you are welcome to try it yourself. I expect you have more honor than them to actually appear. I will be waiting.

It's been done before.

How quickly they forget.