EVE General Discussion

While it's true that the economy in eve is pushed along by conflicts I also think that the NPC economy while not as dynamic as the player driven economy is largely been ignored to take a greater roll in making both economies move, there is only trade of cheap goods the for the most part don't have any value to players beyond some industrial applications and thats about it.

There's really no 'sink' no reason to buy goods such as carbon, soil, garbage, etc, no reason to hold on to these goods and sell at a later date because the prices don't really fall or rise based upon a better system than time based algorithm that the NPC economy follows, sort of a clock rhythm, if Someone bought all the soil up it would be only a matter of time till the NPC trade system replaced it making the buyer stuck with soil they can't really 'unload' because the NPC economy is a clock based economy, it will always recharge.

The problem also arises that the fat cats of eve sit upon their mountains of ISK and have no place to put their money into, or rather no reason to spend it because they have everything they could possibly need or use, NPC's don't buy ships, modules, etc, nothing except the trade goods, and players have said it before, they don't want NPC's meddling around in the player economy, and that is the problem there, either we should have the NPC's buying ships and modules for their mineral value so that minerals are taken out of the game as much as they are being produced and at the same time have the distruction of NPC ships count as the 'need' so that all the missions, ratting, etc, have an effect on what they are buying, included in that algorithm the addition of the need for carbon, this, and that, etc to effect buy orders by NPC's, the more players play and destroy the more demand is created, the less players play and destroy less then the less value trade goods have, prices for buy orders by NPC's go down, in other words game play feeds itself, then maybe there will be reasons to sink ISK into carbon as an item to hold on to as prices rise and fall based upon players actually playing and destroying stuff (NPC), and not just player wars.

Tbh I agree with you here. There should be a reason to destroy random stuff. I think a bigger part of the next revamp of missions should be NPC kill missions. Specific rewards, ie a trade, that reward players for killing X amount of a certain product. The idea would be that you kill X amount of stuff in the contract and you get rewarded with Y amount of other stuff. Ironically CCP could use these contracts to help balance otherwise unbalanceable commodities. Basically moving isk from one area to another through kill contracts.

Destruction pays.

The reality wouldnt be so much that you need to destroy as the the mission reward would reward you in "value" just a different form of "isk value". Then coupled with the 50% drop rate you could get raw attrition over time in the attempt to make isk doing it. Or missions failed or declined. But by trading commodities CCP could potentially move value from more supply to lesser and redo the balances there periodically for these missions. Which would only be valuable when that particular economy or commodity is vs demand.

Do you have a source for this?

Because his post is on player vs player distruction, my post builds upon that but in a different way, it counts the NPC as part of that economy not only PVP, problem is if I diverge from that post people will tell me I'm off topic, so hence this post, but it is a general discussion on the economy, ideals being floated, one thing tho I've noticed about eve players is that many do not want change, they want a largely static universe a 'this is how its always been done' at least its how it feels to me, discouraging for sure, but then maybe it's just my view, and eve is eve and maybe taking it in this or that direction will un-eve it...don't know.

Redundant is only PVP in highsec.....

That's the reason people leave because they are ****** of by ganks and completely unnecessary fights they simply don't want or had ask for.....

There should be NO unwanted PVP in high so BAN it from high....

Or at least give everyone a non pvp flag that has to turned OFF to have pvp.

They moment some PVP freaks can't disturb your PVE sight on the game will be the moment players will begin to return just because they now can roam free as they like in high....

simple

and working.....

Not expecting this to ever happen but they could drop an iron boot that effects the same way. No docking in high sec after you gank, no gate access and if you lose your pod, half a million skill points go with it. If a grudge is deep enough the option is there but the price will be high enough that lulz kills won't be a thing.

ignoring the truth and attacking those who speak it out is not the solution,it's part of the problem in this game....

I've fixed that for you.



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That would mean you'd have to separate the PvP economy from the PvE economy. So HS would have to get a separate currency only usable there.

Sounds like we need wealth redistribution and the seizure of assets from accounts that aren't active if e can accurately determine theyre going to remain inactive. Like s voluntary I quit button, or email checks evey now and then.