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Can a mission send you to a different region?
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Reginald Ruettelplatt
Fluffy Rodents in Space
#1 - 2017-04-14 23:20:17 UTC
I'm currently trying to find a level 4 agent in a 0.5 system which doesn't have any lowsec systems nearby. I found some that are at a regional border and have a lowsec system in the other region.

Now my question is, does the fact that the lowsec system is in a different region prevent the agent from sending me there ? Or in other words, do missions stay in the same region or can you get "cross-region" missions ?
Alasdan Helminthauge
AirHogs
Hogs Collective
#2 - 2017-04-15 12:11:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Alasdan Helminthauge
I don't know the answers of your questions, but the SOE lv4 agent in Lanngisi always send you witin 2 jumps for missions, and the SOE lv4 agent in Apanake send you within 1 jump for most non-burner missions. Both systems are 0.5. (And the true sec are both between 0.45 and 0.5. Lanngisi's is lower than Apanake's, but the systems around Apanke are smaller.)
Orin Solette
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2017-04-15 14:43:59 UTC
I've never been sent to another region myself, but I'm not sure that I ever ran missions on the border. I think I read somewhere that normal missions (non-burners) keep you in the same constellation.
Admiral Brodnack
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#4 - 2017-04-16 02:40:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Admiral Brodnack
Alasdan Helminthauge wrote:
SOE lv4 agent in Apanake send you within 1 jump for most non-burner missions. Both systems are 0.5. (And the true sec are both between 0.45 and 0.5. Lanngisi's is lower than Apanake's, but the systems around Apanke are smaller.)

Agent in apanake sends you into low sec quite often even for normal missions, especially for burner missions.
Lanngisi agent doesnt send you to any low sec, it's always high sec 0.5..

So Lanngisi agent is the best one, others kinda suck.


Also, agent in Lanngisi gives you more LP's per mission than Apanake agent.
I think this is due to lower true sec status.
Alasdan Helminthauge
AirHogs
Hogs Collective
#5 - 2017-04-16 10:30:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Alasdan Helminthauge
Admiral Brodnack wrote:
Alasdan Helminthauge wrote:
SOE lv4 agent in Apanake send you within 1 jump for most non-burner missions. Both systems are 0.5. (And the true sec are both between 0.45 and 0.5. Lanngisi's is lower than Apanake's, but the systems around Apanke are smaller.)

Agent in apanake sends you into low sec quite often even for normal missions, especially for burner missions.
Lanngisi agent doesnt send you to any low sec, it's always high sec 0.5..

So Lanngisi agent is the best one, others kinda suck.


Also, agent in Lanngisi gives you more LP's per mission than Apanake agent.
I think this is due to lower true sec status.


Agent in Apanake never send me into low-sec for normal missions. Actually, except the burner missions, Scarlet, Vengeance, Duo of Death and some missions agains Amarr, all the other missions are within 1 jump. Serpentis Assault, Blood Raider Blockade, Recon 1 to 3, Angel Pirate Invasion are always just in Apanake. One system around Lanngisi is quite big, thus it takes a lot of time to warp in a 2AU/s battleship. Lanngisi's true sec is 0.461, Apanake 0.488, not too much different. (If it's 20% more per 0.1 lower, then Lanngisi only pays 5% more than Apanake, which could be compensated by less travel time.) So if you like to full clear mission pockets in a marauder or whatever battleship warping at 2AU/s and don't do the burner missions, I think Apanake is better.
Admiral Brodnack
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#6 - 2017-04-16 10:33:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Admiral Brodnack
Alasdan Helminthauge wrote:
except the burner missions, Scarlet, Duo of Death and some missions agains Amarr

Yes, exactly.
Big LP/reward missions normally get you to low sec in apanake, in lanngisi you do not get low sec at all.
Burner missions give you insane amount of LP and are easy to do if you look up guide's on how to do them, also amarr missions are good for Insignia's if you don't care about faction standing.

Let's say you get Scarlet and it sends you to low sec, you have to decline this awesome mission in apanake, but in lanngisi it will always be in at least 0.5 system, plus you get more LP because true sec status.

Other people also think so, lanngisi is best "premium" agent:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6902639#post6902639

Blink
Alasdan Helminthauge
AirHogs
Hogs Collective
#7 - 2017-04-16 10:46:23 UTC
Admiral Brodnack wrote:
Alasdan Helminthauge wrote:
except the burner missions, Scarlet, Duo of Death and some missions agains Amarr

Yes, exactly.
Big LP/reward missions normally get you to low sec in apanake, in lanngisi you do not get low sec at all.
Burner missions give you insane amount of LP and are easy to do if you look up guide's on how to do them, also amarr missions are good for Insignia's if you don't care about faction standing.

Let's say you get Scarlet and it sends you to low sec, you have to decline this awesome mission in apanake, but in lanngisi it will always be in at least 0.5 system, plus you get more LP because true sec status.

Blink


Not everyone do burner missions. I've said that Apanake is better IF you like to full clear mission pockets in a 2AU/s battleship. Scarlet is at most 4 jumps away in Kesseya because normal missions always remain in the same constellation. Does Ekrin have any low-sec system? Do some research before you post.
voetius
Grundrisse
#8 - 2017-04-16 10:48:19 UTC

Yes you can get sent to a different region, I've seen it a couple of times, though it is comparatively rare. Last time was Oipo to EC-P8R via Torrinos :)

Also, w.r.t. agents that are close to low sec, one thing that I noticed that doesn't seem to have been mentioned much is that whether the low sec has stations seems to matter. E.g. the two L4 Theology Council agents in Sasoutikh, where the system is close to low sec. It was very rare that they would give a mission in low despite it being 2 jumps away and I recall some old discussion that speculated that it was because all the nearby low sec for a couple of jumps has no stations.
Admiral Brodnack
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#9 - 2017-04-16 11:06:32 UTC
Alasdan Helminthauge wrote:
Not everyone do burner missions. I've said that Apanake is better IF you like to full clear mission pockets in a 2AU/s battleship.

That's true.
Alasdan Helminthauge
AirHogs
Hogs Collective
#10 - 2017-04-16 11:11:08 UTC
voetius wrote:

Yes you can get sent to a different region, I've seen it a couple of times, though it is comparatively rare. Last time was Oipo to EC-P8R via Torrinos :)

Also, w.r.t. agents that are close to low sec, one thing that I noticed that doesn't seem to have been mentioned much is that whether the low sec has stations seems to matter. E.g. the two L4 Theology Council agents in Sasoutikh, where the system is close to low sec. It was very rare that they would give a mission in low despite it being 2 jumps away and I recall some old discussion that speculated that it was because all the nearby low sec for a couple of jumps has no stations.


Were those EC-P8R missions burner missions? Those missions normally take place in an adjacent constellation, and EC-P8R is in a constellation adjacent to the constellation of Oipo.
The agents in Sasoutikh rarely send you to low-sec because those nearby low-sec systems are in a different constellation. The agent in Apanake usually send me to Avuyh where there is no npc station.
voetius
Grundrisse
#11 - 2017-04-16 12:47:23 UTC

The EC-P8R mission I don't recall whether it was a burner or not. I didn't realise that about Sasout, makes a bit more sense.

I can still remember one or two missions from before burners were introduced that sent you to a different region, one was from a station in Domain that was close to the Kador regional boundary, apart from that I don't recall any details.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#12 - 2017-04-16 17:38:17 UTC
A typical mission will pick a system in the constellation.

burner missions typically go to the next constellation, Lanngisi is a notable exception as hek is a trade hub and mostly blocks missions from going out of constellation. Burners can send you to another region

if you aren't blitzing or running burners (or care about maxing isk/hr) there are a decent number of agents that are spread all around eve. Making a less lp/hr doesn't hurt so much when you get 2k+ isk/lp. Also I think there are a few alright agents and with current standings mechanics declining missions becomes trivial with enough buffer standing, so I'm not sure I'd mind being in a mostly highsec constellation. and with the upcoming t3c rebalance I'm thinking about gearing up for some low/null sec mission running.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
Orin Solette
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2017-04-17 04:39:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Orin Solette
Admiral Brodnack wrote:
Alasdan Helminthauge wrote:
SOE lv4 agent in Apanake send you within 1 jump for most non-burner missions. Both systems are 0.5. (And the true sec are both between 0.45 and 0.5. Lanngisi's is lower than Apanake's, but the systems around Apanke are smaller.)

Agent in apanake sends you into low sec quite often even for normal missions, especially for burner missions.
Lanngisi agent doesnt send you to any low sec, it's always high sec 0.5..

So Lanngisi agent is the best one, others kinda suck.


Also, agent in Lanngisi gives you more LP's per mission than Apanake agent.
I think this is due to lower true sec status.


I must be the luckiest person in EVE because after years in Apanake I've NEVER been sent into low for a regular mission. Burners are SOMETIMES in low.

Also pirate composition matters depending your ship. And so does warp distance. So no, Lanngisi is not strictly better for everyone and Apanake doesn't "kinda suck". You are vastly overexaggerating the difference in these systems which is unhelpful for newer players trying to decide where to go.
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#14 - 2017-04-17 14:19:14 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
A typical mission will pick a system in the constellation.

And my experience is exactly the opposite so I believe that agent location plays a large role in this.
I mission on a constellation border fairly consistently and I do get sent into that bordering constellation on occasion.
On the other hand I have run burners from an agent in the middle of a constellation and have never been sent into another constellation to run them.

OP there are some general things I have seen over the years.
Most regular missions will be within 3 to 4 jumps of the agent, if that could take you into another constellation or low sec then there is a chance you will be sent into that constellation or to low ssec.

If you choose an agent that is 3 to 4 jumps from low sec then it is rare you will get a mission into low sec. Chose and agent that is 4 to 5 jumps or more from a low sec area and you will likely never get a mission into low sec. I cannot say it will never happen, but what I can say is that in all my years in the game I have never been sent to low sec for a mission (even burners) as long as the agent was 4 or more jumps from low.

Being sent to another constellation is not a problem unless you have sec status issues so one has to wonder why the concern?
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#15 - 2017-04-17 18:57:32 UTC
I don't know about the min/gal missions, but the cal/amarr missions I think there is one faction kill mission that goes to next constellation. So it is possible just not typical.

burners have a chance for in constellation or even in system, it is fairly low chance however unless influenced by pilot traffic which is why lanngisi is so good as it will try to not send you through hek.

why the concern? going 3-4 jumps for a mission is a lot of boring do nothing time, not to mention inefficient. When burner missions first came out I was going ~5 jumps for each one and completing ~6/hr, and some people were saying they could do ~10/hr. that's an extra 40mil isk and ~50k lp/hr. Now with burner bases the ratios are a little different but less jumps more missions complete still holds. Also most mission runners don't want to risk a trip into lowsec. and tags4sec makes sec status a joke.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
Reginald Ruettelplatt
Fluffy Rodents in Space
#16 - 2017-04-17 19:02:06 UTC
Thanks for the replies everyone!