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Recent incursion issues

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Ai Shun
#281 - 2012-01-22 21:35:06 UTC
Tak McMonagle wrote:
Obviously they can't. Look at the tears. Also, there's so much to do in this game. if you play this game just for incursions, you're playing the wrong game. There are so many games out there that provide such content better, and mostly grief free. If having someone interfere with your activities is a problem for you, go play something that doesn't allow such things.


+1

I don't understand why people take a risk based, multi-player game and try to create a risk free grind for themselves out of it. But you encounter the mindset in just about any MMO. People come to a conceptual game, then try to recreate the gameplay they had in their previous MMO after having left it.

Instead of, you know, just playing the damn game as it is designed.

And, like it or not EVE is a game of PvP and risk. No matter WHAT you do, once you undock you are implicitly accepting the risk. CCP has advertised it thusly from the very start, the game's advertising is based around it.

And yet, we have Incursion runners that want complete safety and to be left alone.

Why?

Why should somebody be banned for playing the damn game?
Zubrette
R3d Fire
#282 - 2012-01-22 21:37:24 UTC
I am enjoying these tears. So many, so delicious.
Londor Rogers
Public Menace
#283 - 2012-01-22 21:42:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Londor Rogers
Ok let me get this straight the pvpers are pveing to stop the pvers from pveing but the pvers are trying to pvpthe pvpers to stop them from pveing ?

If only I could go into highsec and help
Elysia Fotini
Roxanne's Red Lights
#284 - 2012-01-22 21:51:02 UTC
tears, tears, tears.......
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#285 - 2012-01-22 22:07:19 UTC
It's quite hilarious that the incursion farmers are so upset for the people actually finishing the incursions like they're supposed to be. I will sit back and laugh at them while I do level 4 missions in my faction fitted Golem, and my alts mine ice as I do the missions... oh... wait... nevermind. Lol
gfldex
#286 - 2012-01-22 22:27:58 UTC
Londor Rogers wrote:
Ok let me get this straight the pvpers are pveing to stop the pvers from pveing but the pvers are trying to pvpthe pvpers to stop them from pveing ?


No, no, no, you got that wrong. The PvPer are _PvEing_ to hurt the PvEers. That's what making this whole drama so ingenious!

Both TDF and BTL have the ISK and the numbers to deal with the problem. Yet, all we see is whining and whinging. They can't fight for their ISK and so they don't deserve it.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#287 - 2012-01-22 22:30:17 UTC
gfldex wrote:
Both TDF and BTL have the ISK and the numbers to deal with the problem.

QFT

If they were actually a "community" the entire interdiction would be a non-issue.
Jas Dor
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#288 - 2012-01-22 22:37:19 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:


+1

I don't understand why people take a risk based, multi-player game and try to create a risk free grind for themselves out of it. But you encounter the mindset in just about any MMO. People come to a conceptual game, then try to recreate the gameplay they had in their previous MMO after having left it.


Hum, I guess you can't understand why people might get together and play D&D every week at a particular time (the PnP Game not the MMO).
Chevy Hakoke
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#289 - 2012-01-22 22:39:17 UTC
Londor Rogers wrote:
Ok let me get this straight the pvpers are pveing to stop the pvers from pveing but the pvers are trying to pvpthe pvpers to stop them from pveing ?

If only I could go into highsec and help



Yes thats about right
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#290 - 2012-01-22 22:42:03 UTC
gfldex wrote:
[quote=Londor Rogers]Both TDF and BTL have the ISK and the numbers to deal with the problem. Yet, all we see is whining and whinging. They can't fight for their ISK and so they don't deserve it.

This. +10.
Ai Shun
#291 - 2012-01-22 22:43:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Ai Shun
Jas Dor wrote:
Hum, I guess you can't understand why people might get together and play D&D every week at a particular time (the PnP Game not the MMO).


My first set was with the blue dice, where you had to white crayon the lettering and I've covered a multitude of pen and paper based games and have been an active GM across (preferrentially) White Wolf's D10 system and occasionally DnD. So yes, I believe I understand why people get together and play a pen and paper game.

But, last time I checked, players don't generally come to a High Fantasy D20 game and try to play Shadowrun / Cyberbunk / World of Darkness.

So actually ... well.

Your post makes no sense to me. I'm sure you were trying to sound smart and witty, but to me it read exactly the opposite.
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#292 - 2012-01-22 22:47:53 UTC
Jas Dor wrote:
Hum, I guess you can't understand why people might get together and play D&D every week at a particular time (the PnP Game not the MMO).

Hmm. I guess I don't understand why people come to Classic Traveller and then try to play Settlers of Cataan with it. If you want to play Settlers of Cataan, then play it, don't try to shoehorn incompatible rulesets into each other.
Angel Violette
The Filthy Few
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#293 - 2012-01-22 22:50:27 UTC
All Incursions will end soon .. this was just a temporary feature for EVE .. too much isk for too many people

I'm the hand up Mona Lisa's skirt. I'm a surprise, They don't see me coming: that's what you're missing.
Lysaeus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#294 - 2012-01-22 22:54:57 UTC
no more high sec incursions again. Bring out the buckets!
Tak McMonagle
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#295 - 2012-01-22 22:57:59 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Jas Dor wrote:
Hum, I guess you can't understand why people might get together and play D&D every week at a particular time (the PnP Game not the MMO).

Hmm. I guess I don't understand why people come to Classic Traveller and then try to play Settlers of Cataan with it. If you want to play Settlers of Cataan, then play it, don't try to shoehorn incompatible rulesets into each other.


hmmm, I guess you havn't a clue what we're talking about in here.

In case you missed it, we're talking about incursions, and the whining that's happening because two groups of people are playing the game differently. Not DnD and board games.
Ai Shun
#296 - 2012-01-22 23:04:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Ai Shun
Tak McMonagle wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Jas Dor wrote:
Hum, I guess you can't understand why people might get together and play D&D every week at a particular time (the PnP Game not the MMO).

Hmm. I guess I don't understand why people come to Classic Traveller and then try to play Settlers of Cataan with it. If you want to play Settlers of Cataan, then play it, don't try to shoehorn incompatible rulesets into each other.


hmmm, I guess you havn't a clue what we're talking about in here.

In case you missed it, we're talking about incursions, and the whining that's happening because two groups of people are playing the game differently. Not DnD and board games.


Uhm ... I should laugh but that would be impolite.

Edit: Maybe I should help educate you. Have a look at the word analogy. No, that is not what the mean man in the Retribution did to your Rifter. It is a comparison, used to illustrate something.

In this instance, my agreement with your point on Incursions resulted in Jas Dor having a brain fart and trying to explain by way of DnD. Both myself and Poetic attempted to explain to Jas that he/she did not understand the point by using the analogy of different rulesets.

You know, what happens when two groups of people are playing the game differently.

I hope that helps. If you need further help, read the Dictionary.com piece. There are some examples. And if that doesn't help, send me an EVE Mail and I'll give you some examples and try to explain it better.
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#297 - 2012-01-22 23:05:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Large Collidable Object
Well - interdicting all 3 highsec invursions today was certainly fun yet a tad boring - just fix any isk payouts for them (i.e. exactly zero) and they shoudl be fine as a part of NPE.
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Tak McMonagle
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#298 - 2012-01-22 23:19:32 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:
Tak McMonagle wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Jas Dor wrote:
Hum, I guess you can't understand why people might get together and play D&D every week at a particular time (the PnP Game not the MMO).

Hmm. I guess I don't understand why people come to Classic Traveller and then try to play Settlers of Cataan with it. If you want to play Settlers of Cataan, then play it, don't try to shoehorn incompatible rulesets into each other.


hmmm, I guess you havn't a clue what we're talking about in here.

In case you missed it, we're talking about incursions, and the whining that's happening because two groups of people are playing the game differently. Not DnD and board games.


Uhm ... I should laugh but that would be impolite.

Edit: Maybe I should help educate you. Have a look at the word analogy. No, that is not what the mean man in the Retribution did to your Rifter. It is a comparison, used to illustrate something.

In this instance, my agreement with your point on Incursions resulted in Jas Dor having a brain fart and trying to explain by way of DnD. Both myself and Poetic attempted to explain to Jas that he/she did not understand the point by using the analogy of different rulesets.

You know, what happens when two groups of people are playing the game differently.

I hope that helps. If you need further help, read the Dictionary.com piece. There are some examples. And if that doesn't help, send me an EVE Mail and I'll give you some examples and try to explain it better.


lol, quoted the wrong guy. Oops
Mussaschi
No Wise Guy's
#299 - 2012-01-22 23:20:29 UTC
as simple as that, ccp invested a lot of money to create "incursions", some other people took the liberty of removing this part of eve for most of the players.

either ccp change the rules, or loose some subscribers, some people say they don't want anyway.

so let's wait and see, who is right
Krissada
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#300 - 2012-01-22 23:20:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Krissada
****. I think we just managed to kill all three incursions in less than two hours.
Sorry incursion runners. Tell CCP to fix your ****. o7


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