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Bought a PLEX! But what can I do with it due to the Space Taxes??

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Emperor Xero
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2017-04-03 22:06:17 UTC
Hi all,

First off, please be kind I'm an old player now playing again and I have no clue what I'm doing :).

Now, I went and bought a plex. I figure I could help support the game and I was in serious financial trouble with almost no time to play :/ so making money wasn't really possible.

So, I wanted to sell my plex so I can get to building my dream ship and I totally forgot the space taxes I have to pay in order to sell it on the market. We're talking close to 50mil space bucks that you need upfront. How are players selling there plex then? I work really long hours so I have very little time to play. I don't want to sell it outright because how much you'll lose. Am I missing something that I can try and get the tax down? I can sell my only ship (drake) and hope that will cover the tax. Sorry I really thought
buying and selling the plex was going to be easier than this. Now I kinda wish I didn't do it. Any advice here? I'm thinking I should just sell everything I have and get the tax an hope it sells soon.

Cheers!
Orin Solette
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2017-04-03 22:17:15 UTC
You must be referring to the broker fees. I don't really pay attention to when fees/taxes are levied so this may be wrong but... if you REALLY want to avoid broker fees, I think you can sell it directly to someone with a buy order. You'll get less money for it because buy orders are always cheaper than sell orders, but you'll sell it right away and you won't pay a broker fee.
Emperor Xero
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2017-04-03 22:33:38 UTC
That's what I was afraid of thanks a bunch for your help Orin. I'm going to lose a lot due to not being able to sell to market. I didn't even think of this until I bought the plex. Okay I'll try to work something out.
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#4 - 2017-04-03 23:07:38 UTC
Don't try to trade it in a trade window. Just bite the bullet and sell it instantly to a buy order. Use a third-party trade tool like evecentral (filter results to show reported one hour or less before) to at least find where you'll get the best price.


Girka Kring
Doomheim
#5 - 2017-04-03 23:16:18 UTC
Use a 0% tax citadel, pay 100 ISK brokers fee for the order.
Veine Miromme
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2017-04-03 23:25:29 UTC
1.
Find the best offer from eve-central.com.
Which may or may not include citadels.

2.
Compare it with eve-marketdata.com for distances.
Which may not include citadels.

3.
You can always increase your trade skills to improve your transaction efficiency.




What does the 50m out of 1.15b ISK is making you miss?



Why is 1.145b ISK not enough for what you need?

Ship Type : Out of pod (for now)

Alasdan Helminthauge
AirHogs
Hogs Collective
#7 - 2017-04-04 02:26:27 UTC
Veine Miromme wrote:
What does the 50m out of 1.15b ISK is making you miss?



Why is 1.145b ISK not enough for what you need?


I guess his problem is that he currently doesn't have that 50mil which is required to set up a sell order.

To op: There's a citadel in Perimeter which requires no boxer fee, and most people in the Forge sell their PLEX/skill injectors/skill extractors etc there. I can't remember its name, but you can surely find it by the ingame market.
Dark Lord Trump
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#8 - 2017-04-04 02:35:36 UTC
You can also sell it via private contract, as this only costs 10,000 ISK. Be aware that you might have to advertise this in the local channel of your trade hub of choice, where everything is a scam until proven otherwise (and then we assume it's just a really good scam). I would strongly discourage moving the PLEX once you've redeemed it, as that's a great way to lose a PLEX if you don't know what you're doing.

I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!

Kaybella Hakaari
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2017-04-04 02:37:34 UTC
Girka Kring wrote:
Use a 0% tax citadel, pay 100 ISK brokers fee for the order.

This means hauling it to the 0% tax citadel if it's not already there, which means someone can see you're carrying plex and gank you for it.
Orin Solette
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2017-04-04 06:13:32 UTC
Kaybella Hakaari wrote:
Girka Kring wrote:
Use a 0% tax citadel, pay 100 ISK brokers fee for the order.

This means hauling it to the 0% tax citadel if it's not already there, which means someone can see you're carrying plex and gank you for it.

That's why I didn't recommend it. He posted on the forum that he's selling PLEX. I'm not going to tell him to leave his trade hub with his PLEX (and his entire worth) in cargo for some jerk to turn him off of the game at the undock.
Ryder 'ook
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2017-04-04 06:19:58 UTC
Create a public contract, selling your PLEX a tad bit cheaper than the current market price and advertise it in local like every other mountebank out there.

Every atom in our bodies was forged in the furnace of ancient stars - it's time we return home.

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2017-04-04 06:20:24 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Hello and welcome back to Eve.

Those looking to buy from sell orders look at the lowest price available and those looking to sell to buy orders look at the highest price available. The price difference between the two for PLEX is negligible, especially when looking to do a quick transaction.

I suggest selling it to the highest buy order available, then you won't have to worry about paying Broker Fees or having to constantly watch the Market and readjust the price due to competition doing the .01 ISK mark down game.

Besides that, if you had the ISK to cover the Broker Fee and placed the PLEX in a sell order you'd end up wasting time waiting for it to sell. I think you're actually looking to sell it asap for the highest price available so you can finance building your dream ship and start playing the game the way you want to play.

Basically don't waste time placing it on a sell order in the Market, just sell it to the highest buy order available, build your ship and start playing the game asap.



DMC

EDIT :

Since you've already redeemed the PLEX, you might have to move it to a location that's offering the best buy price. Before doing that make sure you set up Insta-Undock spot and use a ship that's got a good defensive tank on it. Set destination before undocking, warp to Insta-Undock spot right after screen session change and don't use Autopilot, do manual piloting using Warp to 0km / Jump commands until you reach that destination.

Good luck and may you have much success.
Veine Miromme
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2017-04-04 06:37:04 UTC
+ to avoid moving the PLEX, you must be in the station / citadel where you bought it from , or bring it in the game.

Then you can sell it , or place a sell order (for someone else to buy from you), or make a contract.

You can also publish in the sell order and someone can buy it , by direct in station trading.
You have to make sure the money is in the window.

Ship Type : Out of pod (for now)

Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#14 - 2017-04-04 06:47:02 UTC
Don't fly around with a plex in your cargo! I figured you already knew that as you said you had played EvE before. In case you didn't know that - don't do that! Go to the place you want to sell your plex before redeeming it out of your redeem items que and into the game. If you've already redeemed it into the game at a station not a trade hub, your options are probably going to be sell it for a lower price via contract. o7


Veine Miromme
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2017-04-04 14:23:11 UTC
It's also a lot easier to get some quick liquid ISK cash and use it to make the 50m required to set up a sell order.

Eventually the PLEX will sell at lowest price, and will be worth like those 500 orders.

It should be easier to make the 50m fee (whatever it is, including transport costs and time + resources for all I care, and I don't include advertising costs on youtube, twitch or other like twitter, video making costs, audio files, guide documentary form information) with the 1.14b+ cash than it is with less than 50m.

You then have enough to buy one more PLEX and make another 20% profit (eventually).

Ship Type : Out of pod (for now)

Eleonora Crendraven
Global Communications AG
#16 - 2017-04-04 17:26:53 UTC
Girka Kring wrote:
Use a 0% tax citadel, pay 100 ISK brokers fee for the order.


There are jusually quite a few around the trade hubs. Just keep your eyes open.

https://twitter.com/gcAG_EVE

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Eleonora_Crendraven

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Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2017-04-04 19:10:02 UTC
hell if you are in a trade hub, and for some reason you REALLY want to sell it via the sell orders. just do some begging.
explain the sittuation in local, say how much you need. and you might actually find someone generous enough to just give you the isk.
(for bonus points, when you do sell it, pay back the person who gave you the isk)
50m is pocket change for lots of us, and the generosity of players might surprise you.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#18 - 2017-04-04 19:11:08 UTC
Orders with duration of "immediate" have no broker fee.

Accounting reduces transaction taxes. Broker Relations reduces broker fees, as does positive standing with the NPC faction and NPC corporation that owns the station.

Player structures can have taxes set by the owners.
Nicola Romanoff
Tannhauser C-Beam
#19 - 2017-04-04 19:58:59 UTC
You could sell it as a personal contract, although generally people would want it cheaper than the going trade hub price, but that method costs 10k
Emperor Xero
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2017-04-04 21:03:36 UTC

Hi all,

First off, this is best community ever. Seriously you guys, thanks very much for all the advice!
I did luckily redeem in Jita. I did try and sell it to the highest buy order on the market, but it didn't work it kept saying I needed to pay the broker fee of 33mil. So, I ended up having to sell my only ship (Drake) to get the broker fee in order to sell the Plex. I was however incredibly stupid and greedy. I tried to maximize my return so, I priced my plex 11mil below the areas lowest priced plex. When I did this not a minute later somone pushed 6 plex's under my price, so I'm crossing my fingers now that when I get home
I was still able to sell it. As others have mentioned I was too worried to move it to a citadel. I actually didn't even know they existed. I should have listened to you guys and just took the best buy order. Big lesson learned here. I just hope I didn't blow my chance to sell it. Just wanted to pass on the update and give mad props to everyone on this thread for all the help!

Cheers!
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