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[May] CONCORD Aerospace Promotional Ships

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Alia Nadasdy
Imperial's Capsulers
#61 - 2017-04-02 23:42:54 UTC
Ships of the CONCORD of the normal person : Great job designer.
Ships of the CONCORD of a sick person: Disgusting design in the style of Cylons
Cylons

Question.
Why do ships have wings ? A maneuvering thrusters is not ? Why wings in space ? Roll

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Brent McBride
Jarlhettur's Drop
G0N3 F1SS10N
#62 - 2017-04-03 00:08:27 UTC
unless i'm wrong here but these were announced almost a year ago at last fanfest and it was said that people attending would receive them first as a gift in commemoration of CCP's 20th. Than latter that year they would be available to everyone to obtain threw an in game event so can everyone please calm down
Danmal
TYR.
Exodus.
#63 - 2017-04-03 05:41:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Danmal
A. does that mean that the rep bonus against pirates will be 0, because the floor of 10 x a negative number is 0, and 50 only against carebears? Oh how wonderful. Finally, carebears get the bad end of the deal. Edit: Aw. It's the sec status of the pilot. Not the sec status of the target. How boring. So carebear central yet again.

B. If I cannot have one of these ships because I cannot be shilled into attending whatever fest, can I at least get my Police Ishtar back? Pretty please?
Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#64 - 2017-04-03 08:55:25 UTC
The frig reminds me of the head of an evangelion (EVEngelion :) ) .

Kaivarian Coste
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2017-04-03 09:01:15 UTC
Brent McBride wrote:
unless i'm wrong here but these were announced almost a year ago at last fanfest and it was said that people attending would receive them first as a gift in commemoration of CCP's 20th. Than latter that year they would be available to everyone to obtain threw an in game event so can everyone please calm down


They probably should be clear about that, because I honestly thought this ship would only be available to those who paid $$$ directly to CCP.
Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
#66 - 2017-04-03 10:25:14 UTC
WTF CCP, stop redesigning iconic ships into generic scifi nonsense. Some of us got into the game in part because of all the interesting ship designs: asymmetry, distinct racial designs, etc. And every time you redesign something you manage to make it worse. There's nothing wrong with the existing CONCORD hull designs, so leave them as they are. Stop trying to fix things that aren't broken.

(And requiring grinding sec status to 5.0 to use these ships effectively is a stupid mechanic, but at least that stupidity is limited by the limited number of these that will exist. Having to see the new CONCORD trash everywhere is not.)
My Nin
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2017-04-03 10:58:08 UTC
I fail to see the problem here.

Ok the Mrshall is good and its ugly that only people who spend rl cash to travel to Iceland and Vegas will get it. However its only a few of those that will circulate at this stage and I don't see them as game breaking at all.

The frig and cruiser have less mid and low slots than their class hence are rather... poo. So, yeah not much to see here...
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#68 - 2017-04-03 12:58:06 UTC
The funniest part about all of this is the majority of the money that needed to be forked out the get the BS probably end up in the pockets of a major airline and a hotel holding corp even if you live next door to one of the events.
Akrasjel Lanate
Lanate Industries
#69 - 2017-04-03 13:08:31 UTC
Brent McBride wrote:
unless i'm wrong here but these were announced almost a year ago at last fanfest and it was said that people attending would receive them first as a gift in commemoration of CCP's 20th. Than latter that year they would be available to everyone to obtain threw an in game event so can everyone please calm down


Quote:
After a limited period of timed exclusivity these ships will become available again in the future through other special promotions.

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude

Ci'Fera
Blood Feathers
#70 - 2017-04-03 14:18:19 UTC
Alia Nadasdy wrote:


Question.
Why do ships have wings ? A maneuvering thrusters is not ? Why wings in space ? Roll


Typically Aerospace ships are required to fly within atmosphere and wings would greatly help with that function regardless of thrusters.

A wingless 'Aerospace' craft that has serious engine failure in atmospheric flight is subject to sudden impact with the ground aswell.

Also note that these designs do say Concord Aerospace along the nose.
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#71 - 2017-04-03 14:33:10 UTC
Nice looking ships. But uh I'll wait to comment on capabilities until after someone from CCP confirms this wasn't meant as an April Fool's joke. P
Jimy F
Strategic Isks Investments Corporation
#72 - 2017-04-03 18:14:48 UTC
i wish also ask for confirmation before i write something abaut this specs, are this specs for serius? ccp do sometimes wierd things so i taking this like joke in 50%

also there is one more nice pic at eve upadate site of cruiser

and if someone wish to see this frig model, it is actual on sisi, concord shuttle have this frig modeld, but rest of this ships are not yet there
Victor Fabre
Pentinence
Yondu Confederation
#73 - 2017-04-03 19:36:42 UTC
Jimy F wrote:
i wish also ask for confirmation before i write something abaut this specs, are this specs for serius? ccp do sometimes wierd things so i taking this like joke in 50%

also there is one more nice pic at eve upadate site of cruiser

and if someone wish to see this frig model, it is actual on sisi, concord shuttle have this frig modeld, but rest of this ships are not yet there


You can call the cruiser and frig model with the tag id and look at them
Circumstantial Evidence
#74 - 2017-04-03 20:57:59 UTC
In RL, de-commissioned police vehicles owned by the public, if used in public, need to cover up their official markings, to prevent impersonation. (This is not a problem in a garage / hanger / museum.)

So from Lore perspective, I don't think ex-CONCORD ships should display CONCORD logo's or markings. (Including the Council Diplomatic Shuttle.)
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#75 - 2017-04-03 22:49:16 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:

Armor Repairer and Shield Booster effectiveness increased by a percentage equal to 10x pilot security status, with a floor of 0% and ceiling of 50%



Please add some pirate faction ships that have a similar mechanic, but based on negative security status. Maybe 50% damage bonus at -5.0 and 100% damage bonus at -10.0. Then make it so they do very little damage against NPC's of their own faction. And then make it so that NPC's of their own faction will not target them. That would be pretty sweet.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

MidnightWyvern
The Bosena Accords
Warclone Initiative
#76 - 2017-04-04 04:03:52 UTC  |  Edited by: MidnightWyvern
Victor Fabre wrote:
Jimy F wrote:
i wish also ask for confirmation before i write something abaut this specs, are this specs for serius? ccp do sometimes wierd things so i taking this like joke in 50%

also there is one more nice pic at eve upadate site of cruiser

and if someone wish to see this frig model, it is actual on sisi, concord shuttle have this frig modeld, but rest of this ships are not yet there


You can call the cruiser and frig model with the tag id and look at them

I tried that. It didn't work.
Alia Nadasdy wrote:
Ships of the CONCORD of the normal person : Great job designer.
Ships of the CONCORD of a sick person: Disgusting design in the style of Cylons
Cylons

Question.
Why do ships have wings ? A maneuvering thrusters is not ? Why wings in space ? Roll

New design is better. Wings are explained by "Aerospace" designation.

I'm not opposed to asymmetrical designs, but the CONCORD Cruiser and Frigate looked like they were made just for the purpose of looking ridiculous. I'm not sure why designs that look impossible to believe are somehow "more creative" and "more authentic".

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Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
G0N3 F1SS10N
#77 - 2017-04-04 05:02:51 UTC
Chance Ravinne wrote:

I'm not saying they shouldn't be limited. But there's a difference between Genolution limited and "I had a couple thousand dollars lying around, so now I own this ship" limited.

While the announcement smells of Fresh Spring Flowers and April Fools, Chance is quite correct in this assessment is this is not a joke.

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Veishe
Rubbish
#78 - 2017-04-04 07:02:18 UTC
web + tackle bonus in 1 ship?

Nice P2W CCP.
Tasuku Furukawa
SAKUMA DROP
Caladrius Alliance
#79 - 2017-04-04 08:50:02 UTC
Quote:
They have significantly more slots than is usual for their class


So, Enforcer needs 6/5/5.

Quote:
Pilots with high security status will gain an extra bonus to armor repairer and shield booster effectiveness


Hmm... IMO, jamming effectiveness bonus better.

Japanese DUST and EVE player.Character name is DJIPS/Tasuku Furukawa.

CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#80 - 2017-04-04 13:43:59 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Fozzie
Hey folks!

So for anyone who is still curious, this is not an April Fools joke. We are definitely interested in real feedback on these promo ships.

I made a pretty serious typo in the original post (which those of you who are watching the test server caught) in that the Enforcer slot layout is 6/5/5 rather than the 6/4/4 originally posted.

After reading through your initial feedback we've already made one tweak to help address some of your concerns, by reducing the tackle range bonuses on the Enforcer to 10% for webs and 5% for scrams/disruptors. The goal here is to avoid letting these ships become strong enough to make people feel they need to get them to compete. If needed we'll make more power reductions to reach that goal.

The security status rep bonus is indeed something quite odd, but it fits wonderfully with a promo ship released by CONCORD. The trick we're using here also gives us the ability to make ships that receive bonuses for having low security status in the future, which may fit well for some kind of pirate ships someday.

For people asking, these ships have 2 rigslots and 400 calibration like most other T2 ships and the Marshal has the same 4ly base jump range as the other Black Ops.

Thanks for the feedback so far and keep it coming!

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