Player Features and Ideas Discussion

We've beaten that particular horse to dust already, so I'll limit myself to a summary.

More expensive wardecs aren't a solution - the fact that certain large alliances are engaged in carpet wardeccing means that they have enough ISK to do it and continue doing so if the price is increased. However, smaller entities interested in the wardeccing business will find themselves at an even greater disadvantage.

Spend less time in HS, you'll have more fun anyway.

I agree with the OP that there is a problem but I don't know if raising the price is the answer. I'm not the one to ask. Until a couple of hours ago I didn't know a thing about wardecs and my oldest character was born in 2008.

I just got wardecced. I had to look up the rules. I found that I have to wait a week for it to be over. I then did some research into the corp that created the wardec. I found that they wardecced a number of other corps besides mine. And they did that yesterday, and the day before, and the day before that.

I'm sure this is old news to all of you but to me this is all new information.

I then checked into the corps that got wardecced along with mine. These guys must be on some kind of mailing list. Not only have they been wardecced over and over by the same corp but they have been wardecced over and over by a number of "hi-sec wardeccing corps". These corps appear to get one to two weeks of normal game play a month but still have to pay CCP for the full month.

If I was interested in PVP I would join a PVP corp in null-sec. I'm in hi-sec for a reason.

My suggestion is two-fold. I think a restriction should be put in place on how often a corp can harass you. Let's say they can mindlessly wardec you once or twice a year. I could live with that.

The second part of my suggestion is to vote with your money. I just canceled all five of my subscriptions. I can go play another game where I get to play every day I pay for. CCP doesn't care that I'm not happy about the wardec system. There are a lot of folks that aren't happy about it. My name is on the mailing list now. I have a decision to make, accept EVE for what it is or go play something else.

Sounds like you don't understand how EVE works. There is no part of EVE, highsec included, that is a no-PvP zone. The only way to avoid PvP is to never undock (or interact with other players on the market, etc).



Good. You don't belong in EVE because you're too weak to survive here. Please be sure to contract me all of your stuff on your way out the door, so you won't be tempted to return.

If you want to fix blanket wardecs then you have to give back the ability to make targeted wars. The fix is simple, when you run a locator agent if the target is offline it simply says "the target has gone to ground".

Absolutely nothing is stopping you from playing. Wardec or not.

In the past 6 months I've spent in the uni, I think we have been at peace for Maybe 2 weeks total. I would LOVE 2 weeks per month wardec free.

And guess what, the uni still runs, people still undock, in fact it has very little impact on our day to day activities because in general we fly safe (and those who don't get caught. And generally learn quick)

But if you have already cancelled your subs. Since your stuff is spoken for. Can I have your SP? I'll even cover the cost of the extractors.

No, it has a huge effect on war decs because the reason people put out mass war decs is the difficulty in finding a target. The locator agent system is awkward, there's no way to tell if your targets are even online at all, so the obvious answer is to war dec half of EVE so that sheer numbers allow you to find a target. Having locator agents tell you that your target is offline would make it significantly easier to home in on the active targets and reduce the need for tons of active wars.

Funny because That was literally the only change to the relevant mechanics in the last couple of years and it saw an immediate, dramatic and sustained increase in the amount of wars declared by the larger Mercs, the smaller ones either folding or being absorbed almost across the board.

War spamming hub humping degenerative fecking messers became the modus operandi,
rather than something the rest of us would point and laugh at.

it doesn't necessarily have to be an online/offline thing,
Filterable map stats on a per alliance/corp level, delayed heat maps ,or some way of cutting out the noise of empire is necessary.

We could always go back to the old wardec prices @2M a pop. That may encourage smaller entities to start individual and meaningful wars again, rather than banding together in a few corps and wardeccing every thing in sight in the hope of getting something to shoot at.

Except the banding together was already happening anyway over time even before the wardec prices got changed.
What should happen is wardec costs should be based on the attackers size, not the defenders.
This creates a push & pull pressure where for costs you want to be tiny, but for the ability to put a decent force on the field you want to be larger

Then to create more meaningful wardecs, remove 90% of high security stations (at least as player dockable locations even if they still exist for NPC mining & other fleet spawn points), asset safety now makes this possible since things could be set up to be recoverable through that system. And you then have only a few stations per constellation, making citadels as corp focuses far more relevant, and making it easier to push someone out of a system or constellation. Which means area control becomes a reason for war even in high sec.