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Nicola Romanoff
Phoenix Connection
Lack of Judgement.
#41 - 2017-03-28 21:06:32 UTC
Some people like to play the game a different way, sure there are scammers etc oiut there and youve no idea whom they may be really, but sometimes you take a calculated punt and it works out (or not)
Beast of Revelations
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#42 - 2017-03-28 22:07:37 UTC
Trasch Taranogas wrote:

You feel you have nothing to offer except failure.
Thats when the paranoia hits you "why the hell would anybody
wanna invest time and ISK in me?"


Well it's always good to have a healthy dose of skepticism with everything in life. At the same time though, ask yourself why someone would want to invest time and ISK in assassinating or ganking you if you aren't a 'rich target' so to speak. Unless you are flying heavy bling, or carrying heavy bling in your cargohold, go ahead and put yourself out there. The game is designed to work with others, so you'll be missing out.

Go ahead and get over your fear of getting ganked. Get in a noob ship one day, and fly around nullsec until it happens. Then you'll realize 'no biggie' when you wake up in your home station.
Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#43 - 2017-03-28 22:18:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Trasch Taranogas
Beast of Revelations wrote:
Trasch Taranogas wrote:

You feel you have nothing to offer except failure.
Thats when the paranoia hits you "why the hell would anybody
wanna invest time and ISK in me?"


Well it's always good to have a healthy dose of skepticism with everything in life. At the same time though, ask yourself why someone would want to invest time and ISK in assassinating or ganking you if you aren't a 'rich target' so to speak. Unless you are flying heavy bling, or carrying heavy bling in your cargohold, go ahead and put yourself out there. The game is designed to work with others, so you'll be missing out.

Go ahead and get over your fear of getting ganked. Get in a noob ship one day, and fly around nullsec until it happens. Then you'll realize 'no biggie' when you wake up in your home station.


Nowadays I feel at home in WH and null exploring. I have been ganked and lost
and frustrated. Still keep coming for more, just dropped a main character though.

Its the feeling of "you are playing Eve wrong" that bothers me. Everybody is talking
about how important it is to be in a corp.

Someday I will probably join some cool group as soon as I start feeling secure
fighting in PvP. Need to gather some ISK for multiple ships and fittings.
Had a really bad streak in exploring, got in over my head.

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.

Beast of Revelations
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#44 - 2017-03-29 01:56:03 UTC
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
Still keep coming for more, just dropped a main character though.

Why drop a main character? You'll have to spend months skilling a new one.

Quote:
Its the feeling of "you are playing Eve wrong" that bothers me. Everybody is talking
about how important it is to be in a corp.


Well you aren't playing it wrong by any means if you are having fun and enjoying yourself. If you enjoy playing solo, that's how you should play. There is no 'right' or 'wrong' way to play - if I implied that with what I said, I didn't mean to. My point was simply, don't shy away from interacting with people because you are paranoid. But if you just don't want to interact with people - that is perfectly within your charter, purview, mandate, and right. Just do whatever works for you and whatever you enjoy doing.
Khazuk Tharanogas
Avem General Industrials
#45 - 2017-03-29 07:27:26 UTC
I have nothing to add to what has already been posted.
Other that there is a reason I started leading my self over joining people their corp.

I wish you best of luck finding a suitable playstyle. Be it solo or in a corp.
Nicola Romanoff
Phoenix Connection
Lack of Judgement.
#46 - 2017-03-29 07:47:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicola Romanoff
Beast of Revelations wrote:
Trasch Taranogas wrote:

You feel you have nothing to offer except failure.
Thats when the paranoia hits you "why the hell would anybody
wanna invest time and ISK in me?"


Well it's always good to have a healthy dose of skepticism with everything in life. At the same time though, ask yourself why someone would want to invest time and ISK in assassinating or ganking you if you aren't a 'rich target' so to speak. Unless you are flying heavy bling, or carrying heavy bling in your cargohold, go ahead and put yourself out there. The game is designed to work with others, so you'll be missing out.

Go ahead and get over your fear of getting ganked. Get in a noob ship one day, and fly around nullsec until it happens. Then you'll realize 'no biggie' when you wake up in your home station.


I'm about to be back in NPC corps as of tonight when I get home, my main is currently down doing the Minmatar Epic Arc but will be doing th last mission tonight and heading back to the Citadel where all his stuff is, I'd be happy to link up and do something in a few days if you want?
Nicola Romanoff
Phoenix Connection
Lack of Judgement.
#47 - 2017-03-29 07:50:16 UTC
Khazuk Tharanogas wrote:
I have nothing to add to what has already been posted.
Other that there is a reason I started leading my self over joining people their corp.

I wish you best of luck finding a suitable playstyle. Be it solo or in a corp.


It maybe the way to go for me too, once I drop corp with this and my other 5 characters this evening ill probably pull them all into a personal corp (if for nothing else other than not paying 11% to an NPC corp) and Ill take it frorm there, I may even advertise for additional people who want to maybe be under a corp banner for tax purposes but want to do their own thing, not 100% on that though, dont know what kind of commitment it will take from me.
Nicola Romanoff
Phoenix Connection
Lack of Judgement.
#48 - 2017-03-31 09:11:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicola Romanoff
I have decided what I am going to do, for the immediate future anyway, I have created my own corp and will base myself in high sec and use WHs to search out low, null and other WH systems in order to PVP. Ill do this solo or fleet up with people, maybe even join NPSI fleets.

My only concern is ISK making, I am used to 34 planets worth of PI and WH sleeper sites and whilst I could do the sleeper sites still if I find an appropriate WH but the PI which was over 1b a month to me has gone, level 4 missions are not going to make up that shortfall. I suppose it is worth asking if there are any people here that have a corp with high sec poco's. And if so would they be willing to set my corp blue so I can utilize planets as factory planets and not be taxed out of my a**e... I know that is a bit cheeky to ask, but sometimes it's the questions you dont ask that make the difference.

Apart from that ill use the corp to keep all my toons together. I may even let people join the corp as an umbrella for people to chat etc, people that want a corp but not one that works as 99% of the corps out there.

I think ill see how it goes like this, is the ISK making to sustain the PVP becomes an issue ill think of alternative options. Industry is something ive done before and I dont think that is my bag really, plus I extracted a lot of the industrial skills.
Nicola Romanoff
Phoenix Connection
Lack of Judgement.
#49 - 2017-04-07 11:24:50 UTC
I am about a week in now. Having left my old corp i had one of my toons create a corp and have joined it. At the moment i tend to be online most nights and asi suspected isk making isnt that great, i tried distribution missions but that doesnt pay much in isk or LP. I will give level 4 missions a go but i know that they are not that good isk wise, PI is not an option for me and the tax on poco in high sec is ridiculous. I miss chat and banter over comms too.

I guess i am just settling into this way of life so it is going to take some getting used to a bit like leaving a relationship and not quite realised that you can do whatever you want. I do plan on joining some npsi fleets but ill be honest and say that i am finding it a little boring and with the isk income not being that great i cannot see me being able to plex any accounts
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#50 - 2017-04-08 11:57:20 UTC
Nicola Romanoff
Phoenix Connection
Lack of Judgement.
#51 - 2017-04-08 12:01:09 UTC
Thanks, ill have a read
Nicola Romanoff
Phoenix Connection
Lack of Judgement.
#52 - 2017-04-10 07:50:19 UTC
I have sstill been struggling with the solo aspect, so much so i read through all the previous replies to remind myself of what people said and the advice they gave. There was mention of peoples public channels which seems like a good way to connect to people. I have been using the help channel a little to just try and be social and help out peeps where I can.

So (not sure if the people who replied so far in this thread would still be getting notifications) what are your public channels and/or what public channels do you recommend?
Salvos Rhoska
#53 - 2017-04-10 12:55:12 UTC
What are you looking for in a channel?

Banter, socialising, or something more specific?
Nicola Romanoff
Phoenix Connection
Lack of Judgement.
#54 - 2017-04-10 13:03:24 UTC
When im online it would be good to be able to just chat to people that are not just in local, so I think from a more socialising point of view. Didnt really think about there being specific types of chat channel, makes sense though I suppose.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#55 - 2017-04-10 13:04:45 UTC
Nicola Romanoff wrote:
And so it transpires that I need to find myself another corp to live in. It seems that I cannot find that corp to stay in for years and wanted to find out if others had the same issue.

It always seems to be the same m.o

1. You hunt for a corp on eve forums or reddit, and/or you post an advert with you spiel on the same.
2. You get contacted by peoples
3. You speak to those people and maybe make a decision on the back of that
4. You join, move all your stuff to their system.
5. A few weeks or months later something isnt right and you start again. The something not right could be anything, it could either be the corp was not as advertised, less active that you would like, rip off JF service if you're in null that winds you up, or the corp goes in a direction that you don't want to go in and whilst you like the people, you dont want go in that direction and/or any other reason.

This is not sustainable and I don't want to keep on jumping corps. Ive alradyplaced an advert up but then thought about writing here to see if anyone can offer suggestions on finding that ideal corp without having to take a punt on the forums/reddit.

The forum post always tend to be the same, a list of wants, don't wants and what I have to obring to a corp, that sounds like a good basic premise to work on, but it obviously isn't working for me. But just having a bit of difficulty tthinking outside the box on this.

Thanks

N



Nothing is permanent in EVE. People come and go, corps and alliances come and go. You move, move and move some more, especially if you are a null sec player.

The key is to not get used to anything for very long. And to pack lightly. I have at times sold everything I own at firesale prices and moved to the other side of New Eden with just a ceptor and the ISK in my wallet.

Some people never learn these lessons and end up very frustrated with tons of ships and other crap that they now need to move because something changed. Right now I have 4 accounts and 3 capital ships (FAX, Carrier, Dread), most of my characters on those accounts can do cynos. EVERYTHING I own will fit into those 3 capital ships and I can be gone from the space I live in in under 30 minutes.

Robert De Niro actually says it faster than I can.
Salvos Rhoska
#56 - 2017-04-10 13:09:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Nicola Romanoff wrote:
When im online it would be good to be able to just chat to people that are not just in local, so I think from a more socialising point of view. Didnt really think about there being specific types of chat channel, makes sense though I suppose.


As a grill you will probably be uncomfortably welcome in many chat/voice comm.

Join a bunch of channels, see how it goes, and stick with those that work for you.
000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
#57 - 2017-04-10 20:44:40 UTC
Nicola Romanoff wrote:
And so it transpires that I need to find myself another corp to live in. It seems that I cannot find that corp to stay in for years and wanted to find out if others had the same issue.


Yep...

Esp. activity seems to be a problem with smaller corps. They have 20+ members and only 2 are active when u join.

Anyways, any laid back corps active around Dodixie? Send me an evemail Big smile
Maximillian Bonaparte
Interstellar Booty Hunters
#58 - 2017-04-11 18:23:39 UTC
If you think looking for a corp is hard, recruiting is even harder.

And maintaining a corp or being an effective leader is harder still.

I think is it hardest for smaller corps. The reality is 25% of the corp being active is pretty standard for a corp that is not dead or hibernating. Meaning 25% of them may log on once a week. So a corp of 20 people (not counting alts) will mean 5 people are actually active once a week...if they try to form an operation...well it is optimistic that all FIVE of those players will be on at the same time to make the op.

I am happy to say that over 50% of my corp of 20 is active, it has been reborn at least 3 times, and we are FINALLY starting to consistently get 6-man ops again. This is a much higher percentage than usual.

Perhaps only one in three of the active people in my corp did I find from a recruitment ad. All the others are friends or friends of friends that know me or others.

I think the biggest failure to most corps is a misjudgement in commitment by the leader(s). I have been guilty of this myself.
Usually it is because they are obsessive about the corp for several months and then promptly burn out! OR one thing goes wrong and they choke and burn out! Often for several months.

OR they expect people to do things they are not going to do, EVER - in which case they are leading the 'wrong' corp, or they are just arrogant asses, never willing to take responsibility for the over-all outcome.

I think what I am finding is a very gradual, incremental approach to both finding a corp and getting recruits into your corp the best way to go. Especially if you have ANY kind of standards.
You have time to train and/or get close to your corpmates, learn what they can do.

These things they take a lot of time, consistency, and calm persistence. It may take a while to find your pack, but be patient and keep trying, find one you will stay with, and they will stay with you.
Nicola Romanoff
Phoenix Connection
Lack of Judgement.
#59 - 2017-05-14 08:20:40 UTC
Revisiting this.

I ended up joining a corp i had been in some time back, they had ventured into wormholes and it seemed rude not to so I joined and moved in, set up 36 planets worth of PI then all of a sudden it was decided that we were stretched too thin (trying to be a high sec corp AND and a WH corp) and so the WH operation is in the throws of closing down. I moved all my stuff out back to high sec and I think I've been the only one online in about a week..

Whilst I am happy to do things on my own in game, I don't want to be the only one in corp. I like the chat and banter even if I am off alone exploring, hunting etc. I guess the search starts again though.

@ Maximillian Bonaparte I know recruiting is hard, I've done it for a another corp, not my bag and wont be doing that aspect of it again.
Expendable Unit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#60 - 2017-05-14 08:47:57 UTC
From what i read so far, make sure any corp you join is Asperger Syndrome friendly (I mean it in a good way).