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Nicola Romanoff
United Stellar Federation
The Rogue University
#21 - 2017-03-28 14:45:01 UTC
Tuttomenui II wrote:
My corp is cool, join my corp. Be one of us... One of us... ONE OF US!!!!!! j/k Lol


For some reason I did actually laugh out loud to this.
Beast of Revelations
Multiverse Trading
#22 - 2017-03-28 15:03:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Beast of Revelations
This is why I hate to read the drivel of the elitist null-sec snobs who post their insults about people who stay in high-sec. They define high-sec'ers as a monolith of carebear miners or whatever else, 'risk averse,' 'WOW players' etc.

Some of us are stuck in high-sec because we kind of have no other choice (meaning, whatever choices there are aren't particularly good ones). I am not a miner, and I've never played WOW. I would like nothing more than to be in null-sec, or in a wormhole corp. But I have issues with joining a blob of people I don't know from Adam, who don't know me from Adam, and who have corporate objectives or politics which either aren't in line with mine, or even worse, are inscrutable or unknown or constantly changing.

I've tried to get my real-life friends to play Eve. They won't. I've tried meeting folks on the forums or in-game or whatever. That didn't work (I met some, they never want to do anything except what they are already doing, which is generally solo mining, solo exploration, or whatever). I've tried doing solo wormhole stuff. That 'worked' in the sense that I can scan down a wormhole, go in, poke around, run a few relic sites or whatever. But what if you don't want to be a small-time wormhole explorer your entire Eve existence, making $30 mil ISK per hour running exploration sites? I'd like to bring a battleship in and try running some of the combat sites, but that is pure suicide and begging for a gank. I once found a guy running wormholes on these forums. Messaged him and asked if he'd like to explore options for working together. He was paranoid that I was a spy or assassin or ganker or whatever. So you are back to trying to find some like-minded people to play the game with - in other words back to square one. For some, that's a difficult or impossible task.
Salvos Rhoska
#23 - 2017-03-28 15:17:38 UTC
Beast of Revelations wrote:
Messaged him and asked if he'd like to explore options for working together. He was paranoid that I was a spy or assassin or ganker or whatever. So you are back to trying to find some like-minded people to play the game with - in other words back to square one. For some, that's a difficult or impossible task.


No offense, but you kind of shot yourself in the foot with your name and avatar :D

Nonetheless, Id risk cooperation with you, as long as our interests align.
You are clearly intelligent. Idiots are far less predictable.
Beast of Revelations
Multiverse Trading
#24 - 2017-03-28 15:29:57 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:

No offense, but you kind of shot yourself in the foot with your name and avatar :D

:D
Quote:
Nonetheless, Id risk cooperation with you, as long as our interests align.

Message me.
Bjorn Tyrson
Infinite Point
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#25 - 2017-03-28 16:28:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Bjorn Tyrson
I've had that issue as well, one of the bigger annoyances for me is when I do put up a looking for corp advertisement, and inevitably half of the responses are from people who have clearly either not even read my post, or read it and ignored it.

"looking for a WH corp with a mix of pvp and pve activity, ideally one that has infrastructure for industry in place or would be willing to allow me to set up that infrastructure. USTZ"

Gets responses of.

"We are a low-sec pvp only pirate corp, you should join us."
"We are a High-sec mining corp"
and
"join our EU tz null-sec renter corp"

I mean I get it that people enjoy the gameplay that they enjoy and would want to get more people involved in their area of space. thats fine, but when their recruiter completely ignores the list of things that i'm looking for, it doesn't build a lot of faith that they give even the slightest damn about what I find enjoyable and am looking for.

edit: note that is not actually my current looking for corp list. was used purely for example.
Salvos Rhoska
#26 - 2017-03-28 16:33:45 UTC
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
I mean I get it that people enjoy the gameplay that they enjoy and would want to get more people involved in their area of space. thats fine, but when their recruiter completely ignores the list of things that i'm looking for, it doesn't build a lot of faith that they give even the slightest damn about what I find enjoyable and am looking for.


You have it ass backwards.

Its not about what X corp wants.
Its about what you want.
Nicola Romanoff
United Stellar Federation
The Rogue University
#27 - 2017-03-28 17:30:38 UTC
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
I've had that issue as well, one of the bigger annoyances for me is when I do put up a looking for corp advertisement, and inevitably half of the responses are from people who have clearly either not even read my post, or read it and ignored it.

"looking for a WH corp with a mix of pvp and pve activity, ideally one that has infrastructure for industry in place or would be willing to allow me to set up that infrastructure. USTZ"

Gets responses of.

"We are a low-sec pvp only pirate corp, you should join us."
"We are a High-sec mining corp"
and
"join our EU tz null-sec renter corp"

I mean I get it that people enjoy the gameplay that they enjoy and would want to get more people involved in their area of space. thats fine, but when their recruiter completely ignores the list of things that i'm looking for, it doesn't build a lot of faith that they give even the slightest damn about what I find enjoyable and am looking for.

edit: note that is not actually my current looking for corp list. was used purely for example.


Most of the people that reply in the forums copy and paste a standard template, rarely do yu get a personal response, although saying that I did get a few on this last post I made
Nicola Romanoff
United Stellar Federation
The Rogue University
#28 - 2017-03-28 17:34:38 UTC
Beast of Revelations wrote:
This is why I hate to read the drivel of the elitist null-sec snobs who post their insults about people who stay in high-sec. They define high-sec'ers as a monolith of carebear miners or whatever else, 'risk averse,' 'WOW players' etc.

Some of us are stuck in high-sec because we kind of have no other choice (meaning, whatever choices there are aren't particularly good ones). I am not a miner, and I've never played WOW. I would like nothing more than to be in null-sec, or in a wormhole corp. But I have issues with joining a blob of people I don't know from Adam, who don't know me from Adam, and who have corporate objectives or politics which either aren't in line with mine, or even worse, are inscrutable or unknown or constantly changing.

I've tried to get my real-life friends to play Eve. They won't. I've tried meeting folks on the forums or in-game or whatever. That didn't work (I met some, they never want to do anything except what they are already doing, which is generally solo mining, solo exploration, or whatever). I've tried doing solo wormhole stuff. That 'worked' in the sense that I can scan down a wormhole, go in, poke around, run a few relic sites or whatever. But what if you don't want to be a small-time wormhole explorer your entire Eve existence, making $30 mil ISK per hour running exploration sites? I'd like to bring a battleship in and try running some of the combat sites, but that is pure suicide and begging for a gank. I once found a guy running wormholes on these forums. Messaged him and asked if he'd like to explore options for working together. He was paranoid that I was a spy or assassin or ganker or whatever. So you are back to trying to find some like-minded people to play the game with - in other words back to square one. For some, that's a difficult or impossible task.


i think what Trevor Dalech is a good idea, maybe not in WH but I may try that. People are sometimes paranoid becuase of the allowance of scamming and awoxing it is a little understandable, co-operation with a wary eye is sometimes needed.
Keno Skir
#29 - 2017-03-28 17:47:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Keno Skir
lmmortalist wrote:
Rather than trying to hunt for the right corp try hunting for the right people. Getting along socially is extremely important. Also they should be in a corp that isn't too restrictive on the activities you enjoy in eve. Sov 0.0 corps for instance can be problematic because of a bunch of rules, forced activites such as CTAs etc.

So in other words, take your time to get to know people and either try to form your own community around them or join theirs', as long as their corp isn't too restrictive.


^ This.

It's interesting to me how many people see EvE as a purely corporation / alliance based segregation system. In reality when you join a corp you get corp roles and a chatroom.. If you don't care about working as a mining director or hanger organiser it's really just a chatroom and that can be (and is) done without all the corp stuff.

I suggest joining peoples public chats, you will see many forum users have them as well as in people's bio's and even most corporations will have a public chat. Set yourself up a "social" chat window and just log into user made channels when you see one that sparks your interest. Once you find your friends in EvE you'll find corps are often more a tool for a job than something that singularly unifies you all.

One day i think you'll end up clicking with the right people and they will help you work out what banner you want to fly under Pirate
Nicola Romanoff
United Stellar Federation
The Rogue University
#30 - 2017-03-28 17:47:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicola Romanoff
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
I mean I get it that people enjoy the gameplay that they enjoy and would want to get more people involved in their area of space. thats fine, but when their recruiter completely ignores the list of things that i'm looking for, it doesn't build a lot of faith that they give even the slightest damn about what I find enjoyable and am looking for.


You have it ass backwards.

Its not about what X corp wants.
Its about what you want.


Salvos, I think yuo may have misread that I think that is what he is saying.

Anyway, back tot he answer I promised you.

OK. What I am looking for.

EUTZ, becuase I am in the UK so dont want to be a fill in orpart of a "up and coming EU presence" in a corp
Good PI, as that is where I make most of my isk, or at least lwning POCO in high sec so I can set up factory planets
upgraded ratting systems (if in null), or hitting l4 missions and escalations in high sec
free from misogynistic, ignorant racists throwing slurs around... I actually feel embarrased when people spout off like this, swear and curse I am fine with, slurs etc I am not
Dont want providence. I've lived there, some good guys in my previous corp there but... NRDS
Dont want WH space becuase Ive lived there 3 times now and I just need a break from it.
not a big long list of blues (for more PVP opportunities

This leaves either null sec or high sec

I see one of two potentials. I am not averse to a high sec corp that day trips for PVP and to WH and Null space, no weighing out 500isk m3 for JF services, as long as they had infrastructure (citadels etc) and POCOs that they owned so I can set up factory planets (for ISK making), I like this idea as it allows me to experiement with many differ hull types as being in high sec they are easy to get

or Null sec, hopefully not too far from high sec, (a border system would be fantastic in an ideal world), a corp that had a reasonably priced, regular JF service, POCOs (again), doctrine ships on contract at a reasonable and fair markup. a place where you and one other could go off for a roam or a bunch of you could

I think thats most of it

Small - medium (max 20) PVP, not keen on massive tidi fleet battles
Nicola Romanoff
United Stellar Federation
The Rogue University
#31 - 2017-03-28 17:53:02 UTC
Keno Skir wrote:
lmmortalist wrote:
Rather than trying to hunt for the right corp try hunting for the right people. Getting along socially is extremely important. Also they should be in a corp that isn't too restrictive on the activities you enjoy in eve. Sov 0.0 corps for instance can be problematic because of a bunch of rules, forced activites such as CTAs etc.

So in other words, take your time to get to know people and either try to form your own community around them or join theirs', as long as their corp isn't too restrictive.


^ This.

It's interesting to me how many people see EvE as a purely corporation / alliance based segregation system. In reality when you join a corp you get corp roles and a chatroom.. If you don't care about working as a mining director or hanger organiser it's really just a chatroom and that can be (and is) done without all the corp stuff.

I suggest joining peoples public chats, you will see many forum users have them as well as in people's bio's and even most corporations will have a public chat. Set yourself up a "social" chat window and just log into user made channels when you see one that sparks your interest. Once you find your friends in EvE you'll find corps are often more a tool for a job than something that singularly unifies you all.

One day i think you'll end up clicking with the right people and they will help you work out what banner you want to fly under Pirate


from what I can see, user made channels are not just listed, they have to be known in order to enter
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#32 - 2017-03-28 18:00:50 UTC
I hear Dreddit is recruiting.
Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2017-03-28 18:41:10 UTC
Yes. Im super paranoid. Still trying to find my ways around Eve too.

Im so fixed by those skills, seems I cant get enough training with
any character.
Trasch I dropped soon, only use him in Forum. Waisted money on
2 characters, down to one which I have trained but not flown much with.

Still also confused what to do. Even thinking of dropping Eve altogether.

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.

Nicola Romanoff
United Stellar Federation
The Rogue University
#34 - 2017-03-28 18:50:42 UTC
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
Yes. Im super paranoid. Still trying to find my ways around Eve too.

Im so fixed by those skills, seems I cant get enough training with
any character.
Trasch I dropped soon, only use him in Forum. Waisted money on
2 characters, down to one which I have trained but not flown much with.

Still also confused what to do. Even thinking of dropping Eve altogether.


Not sure what this has to do with my original post, however I would say that eve is more of a slow burn game, you can train into tackle, ecm and basic exploration quite quickly and then expand from there. but yes unless your getting skill injector or buying multiple character training then train one toon to do something, I normally train in 1 month stints for my toon. you need to get a training plan.
Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#35 - 2017-03-28 18:53:38 UTC
Nicola Romanoff wrote:
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
Yes. Im super paranoid. Still trying to find my ways around Eve too.

Im so fixed by those skills, seems I cant get enough training with
any character.
Trasch I dropped soon, only use him in Forum. Waisted money on
2 characters, down to one which I have trained but not flown much with.

Still also confused what to do. Even thinking of dropping Eve altogether.


Not sure what this has to do with my original post, however I would say that eve is more of a slow burn game, you can train into tackle, ecm and basic exploration quite quickly and then expand from there. but yes unless your getting skill injector or buying multiple character training then train one toon to do something, I normally train in 1 month stints for my toon. you need to get a training plan.



Well, It was kinda directed for 'Beast of Revelations'

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.

Lara Agnon
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2017-03-28 19:01:23 UTC
I do feel the same. It is rather difficult to find a corp. I thought several times I did find it but then.... two disbanded shortly after I joined (reason for corps to advertise they are recruiting is they can't sustain the corp any more), one left the alliance and decided to do something completely different....

Then most of them want your full api key... wtf? I am ok with sharing some stuff but not sharing my life with all of them. One corp didn't accept me because I didn't give them the full api key of my wife's account.....
Nicola Romanoff
United Stellar Federation
The Rogue University
#37 - 2017-03-28 20:29:31 UTC
Lara Agnon wrote:
I do feel the same. It is rather difficult to find a corp. I thought several times I did find it but then.... two disbanded shortly after I joined (reason for corps to advertise they are recruiting is they can't sustain the corp any more), one left the alliance and decided to do something completely different....

Then most of them want your full api key... wtf? I am ok with sharing some stuff but not sharing my life with all of them. One corp didn't accept me because I didn't give them the full api key of my wife's account.....


yeah full API is pretty standard, I have always done it in the past but now I know everything that can be seen I think I will be more reluctant in the future.
Beast of Revelations
Multiverse Trading
#38 - 2017-03-28 20:37:53 UTC
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
Yes. Im super paranoid.


Yes, we chatted, and I offered to help you. But actually I was referring to someone else in my post. A high-skilled old-timer type who frequently posts on the forums.

Actually, it has been a whole series of people.

I'm not here to point the finger at anyone. It is what it is.
Nicola Romanoff
United Stellar Federation
The Rogue University
#39 - 2017-03-28 20:40:48 UTC
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
Nicola Romanoff wrote:
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
Yes. Im super paranoid. Still trying to find my ways around Eve too.

Im so fixed by those skills, seems I cant get enough training with
any character.
Trasch I dropped soon, only use him in Forum. Waisted money on
2 characters, down to one which I have trained but not flown much with.

Still also confused what to do. Even thinking of dropping Eve altogether.


Not sure what this has to do with my original post, however I would say that eve is more of a slow burn game, you can train into tackle, ecm and basic exploration quite quickly and then expand from there. but yes unless your getting skill injector or buying multiple character training then train one toon to do something, I normally train in 1 month stints for my toon. you need to get a training plan.



Well, It was kinda directed for 'Beast of Revelations'


Ah gotcha :)
Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#40 - 2017-03-28 20:57:30 UTC
Beast of Revelations wrote:
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
Yes. Im super paranoid.


Yes, we chatted, and I offered to help you. But actually I was referring to someone else in my post. A high-skilled old-timer type who frequently posts on the forums.

Actually, it has been a whole series of people.

I'm not here to point the finger at anyone. It is what it is.


Its cool, not even sure if it was your alt. Mostly you feel intimidated
to approach players who has been in this game for a long time.
You feel you have nothing to offer except failure.
Thats when the paranoia hits you "why the hell would anybody
wanna invest time and ISK in me?"

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.