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More astrophysical features

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Sose Thawenrate
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2017-03-23 15:43:42 UTC
What chance of the gaming environment or even just the warp experience begin to eventually offer realistic sub galactic features such as super giant red stars, supernovae remnants, explorable nebulae, rogue stars, rogue planets, etc.??

Sometimes, long multi jumps get a little boring.....
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#2 - 2017-03-23 16:07:31 UTC
Sose Thawenrate wrote:
What chance of the gaming environment or even just the warp experience begin to eventually offer realistic sub galactic features such as super giant red stars, supernovae remnants, explorable nebulae, rogue stars, rogue planets, etc.??

Sometimes, long multi jumps get a little boring.....



If you want realism I propose a travel time of at least 30,000 years between adjacent star systems.
Salvos Rhoska
#3 - 2017-03-23 16:11:05 UTC
Im totally for more space porn.

But atm, inversly, some local space effects are bothering me.
Clouds are so goddam bright, hurts my eyes in my dark room :,(

I've tried adjusting various options, but havent found a solution yet.
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#4 - 2017-03-23 17:36:52 UTC
There are a lot of interesting places to visit in New Eden https://evetravel.wordpress.com/

A frigate in Eve warps at 5 AU/sec - roughly 1700 times C (speed of light in a vacuum). Realistically you shouldn't be able to "see" anything!
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#5 - 2017-03-23 17:43:28 UTC
Mr Mieyli
Doomheim
#6 - 2017-03-23 18:04:07 UTC
It would be cool to have binary systems and different types of star like red giants or neutron stars. Would be more visually interesting.

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ColdCutz
Frigonometry
#7 - 2017-03-23 18:11:27 UTC
Sose Thawenrate wrote:
What chance of the gaming environment or even just the warp experience begin to eventually offer realistic sub galactic features such as super giant red stars, supernovae remnants, explorable nebulae, rogue stars, rogue planets, etc.??

Sometimes, long multi jumps get a little boring.....
I'm all for more interactivity with the environment (like the heat gauges on your module racks going up the closer you get to the sun) but all of those things wouldn't have any effect on your long multi jumps, because you know, you would have to stop traveling and smell the Rose Nebulas.

Now if we applied actual relativity to FTL travel in-game, you could reach your destination before you even left....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUMGc8hEkpc
Eleonora Crendraven
Global Communications AG
#8 - 2017-03-23 19:04:45 UTC
More of things like Caroline's Star please!

https://twitter.com/gcAG_EVE

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Eleonora_Crendraven

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Charley Varrick
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2017-03-23 22:17:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Charley Varrick
I always wished that some of the stuff we find in missions would be permanent. All these cool looking bases, nebula clouds, big sensor arrays and stuff....Would be cool if players could claim somehow or make use of it, or at least have some cool places to visit.
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
#10 - 2017-03-24 00:12:53 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Sose Thawenrate wrote:
What chance of the gaming environment or even just the warp experience begin to eventually offer realistic sub galactic features such as super giant red stars, supernovae remnants, explorable nebulae, rogue stars, rogue planets, etc.??

Sometimes, long multi jumps get a little boring.....



If you want realism I propose a travel time of at least 30,000 years between adjacent star systems.

Wrong. New eden has a total expansion of less then 100 lightyears. Even a freighter would need less then 15 years to make it across all of it.

"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)

"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2017-03-24 01:07:38 UTC
Yeah, it would be cool if there were some random astronomical events happening in-game, such as roving comets, imploding and exploding stars causing temporary black holes, various types of energy waves and unforeseen meteor showers. The list goes on and on.

Quite honestly I highly doubt CCP could even code stuff like that into the game and if they did try it, more than likely it would be buggy as hell. Not to mention players getting pissed off due to having their ship and pod being immediately vaporized by some type of random Stellar Event after jumping into a system.


DMC
Ramere
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2017-03-24 02:26:20 UTC
Perhaps a procedurally generated to scale asteroid belt... Minor hitch when landing from warp is all it'd take. Actually thats not true, youd compute the arrival point during warp.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#13 - 2017-03-24 04:06:33 UTC
Mark O'Helm wrote:

Wrong. New eden has a total expansion of less then 100 lightyears. Even a freighter would need less then 15 years to make it across all of it.


Wrong. Faster than light travel is impossible. I mean, if we're going for realism.
Alasdan Helminthauge
AirHogs
Hogs Collective
#14 - 2017-03-24 04:38:30 UTC
Is it possible to slow boat to another system in theory? (assuming that EVE and your computer and network can last infinitely)
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#15 - 2017-03-24 04:52:52 UTC
Alasdan Helminthauge wrote:
Is it possible to slow boat to another system in theory? (assuming that EVE and your computer and network can last infinitely)

No, because the code requires you to session change and slow boating doesn't generate a session change.
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
#16 - 2017-03-24 06:09:32 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Mark O'Helm wrote:

Wrong. New eden has a total expansion of less then 100 lightyears. Even a freighter would need less then 15 years to make it across all of it.


Wrong. Faster than light travel is impossible. I mean, if we're going for realism.

If everybody would think like that, nobody would work on it. But i bet they do.

"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)

"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)

Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#17 - 2017-03-24 06:11:23 UTC
Mark O'Helm wrote:
Ptraci wrote:
Mark O'Helm wrote:

Wrong. New eden has a total expansion of less then 100 lightyears. Even a freighter would need less then 15 years to make it across all of it.


Wrong. Faster than light travel is impossible. I mean, if we're going for realism.

If everybody would think like that, nobody would work on it. But i bet they do.

Working on it and it being 'realistic' are too different things.

So tell us, in this 'more realistic' New Eden, how would something cover 100 lightyears distance in less than 15 years?

What realistically even has a warp drive?

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
#18 - 2017-03-24 07:55:42 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Mark O'Helm wrote:
Ptraci wrote:
Mark O'Helm wrote:

Wrong. New eden has a total expansion of less then 100 lightyears. Even a freighter would need less then 15 years to make it across all of it.


Wrong. Faster than light travel is impossible. I mean, if we're going for realism.

If everybody would think like that, nobody would work on it. But i bet they do.

Working on it and it being 'realistic' are too different things.

So tell us, in this 'more realistic' New Eden, how would something cover 100 lightyears distance in less than 15 years?

What realistically even has a warp drive?

I calculated it with the warp speed of a freighter, 1.37 au per sec or so. A lightyear is 9.4 trill km. Make the math yourself. I eliminated the nessessary breaks to recharge the capaciter. Take that in if you like.

"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)

"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)

Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
#19 - 2017-03-24 08:05:37 UTC
I just calculated:

A leopard with unlimited capacitor would make the 100 lj at max speed 20AU/sec. in 87.6 hours.

299,795.456km/s ls x 3600s x 24h x 365.25 D is 1 lj, x 100

/

20AU/s x 150,000,000 km / 3600s

= 87,5993562276 hours

"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)

"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)

Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#20 - 2017-03-24 08:27:01 UTC
We know that our best theories of how the universe works - General Relativity and Quantum Field Theory, are mutually exclusive - they can't both be right. Both continue to work at the limits of our ability to measure but there is new physics to be discovered and who knows what will be possible in the new paradigm.

Remember Clark's laws:
1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
2. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
3. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
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