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IT'S TIME FOR KILLS TO BE EARNED

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ARES DES1DERATA
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2017-03-22 17:51:03 UTC  |  Edited by: ARES DES1DERATA
I'M BOYCOTTING GARBAGE KILLBOARDS LIKE ZKILLBOARD FROM NOW ON

ZKILLBOARD SUPPORTS EXPLOIT AND GLITCH KILLMAILS THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED - IF THE GAME KICKS YOU OUT AND YOU DIE WHILE OUT OF THE GAME, THEY SUPPORT THAT AS A LEGITIMATE "KILL"MAIL

"KILLS" AREN'T EARNED ON THESE KINDS OF KILLBOARDS

YOU HAVE ONE SHIP DEAD - AND FIFTY PEOPLE WHO WHORED ON THE KILLMAIL EACH GET A "KILL" ACCORDING TO THIS GARBAGE KILLBOARD

LET ME CLARIFY THIS IN CASE YOUR SLOW BRAINS ARE INCAPABLE OF COMPREHENDING IT - THAT'S ONE SHIP DEAD, ONE KILL, YET HOWEVER MANY PEOPLE SHOT/EWAR'D/SNEEZED AT HIM ALONG THE WAY, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM GET A "KILL"

IT'S ONE BIG CIRCLE JERK FOR EVE CAREBEARS TO PRETEND THEY ARE GOOD AT PVP - THAT'S EXPONENTIAL KILL MULTIPLICATION OF ONE KILL BASED ON HOWEVER MANY PLAYERS HAPPENED TO WHORE ON IT, HOW IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE THAT ANYONE THINKS THIS IS OKAY?

IT MEANS THAT EVERYONE IN A BLOB FIGHT COMES OUT THE WINNER, BECAUSE MATHEMATICALLY (ACCORDING TO ZKILLBOARD), IF IT'S A 100-VS-100 FIGHT, AND EVERYONE DIES, AND EVERYONE "WHORES" ON EVERYONE ELSE'S "KILL", THEN THAT MEANS THAT EVERY SINGLE PLAYER IN THIS 200 PLAYER BATTLE GETS 100 "KILLS" - 200 MULTIPLIED BY 100 IS 20,000, THAT'S 20,000 "KILLS", ACCORDING TO THIS DUMB WEBSITE, BASED ON 200 ACTUAL KILLS, BECAUSE EVERY ONE OF THESE PLAYERS (WHO MAYBE DID 1% OF THE DAMAGE OR EVEN 0% BUT SLAPPED AN EWAR ONTO THEM) GETS A "KILL". THIS IS STRAIGHT BS

OR PUT IT ANOTHER WAY - A 1-VS-20,000 FIGHT - IF 20,000 PLAYERS ALL SHOOT AT ONE GUY, AND THAT ONE GUY DIES, THEN ALL 20,000 OF THOSE PLAYERS EACH GET A "KILL", ACCORDING TO ZKILLBOARD.

IT'S A CAREBEAR CIRCLE JERK.

THE FACT THAT ANYONE EVEN USES THIS KILLBOARD IS A JOKE

THE FACT THAT PEOPLE THINK EVE IS HARDCORE IS A JOKE. THIS GAME IS CAREBEAR LAND

YOU DIDN'T "KILL" ANYBODY BY SLAPPING AN EWAR ONTO THEM AND WHORING ON THE KILLMAIL, IF YOU THINK YOU DID, YOU'RE TRASH, GTFO
Oreb Wing
Last Rites.
Villore Accords
#2 - 2017-03-22 18:07:56 UTC


=/ alright, who shot the pod?
Soel Reit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2017-03-22 18:10:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Soel Reit
OP
WHERE IS YOUR FULL CAPS GONE?
i'm starting to miss it Cool


but i agree on one point: kb is stupid and shouldn't exist.
too many infos are up there for someone that knows what to look at
ARES DES1DERATA
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2017-03-22 18:22:13 UTC
Soel Reit wrote:
OP
WHERE IS YOUR FULL CAPS GONE?
i'm starting to miss it Cool


but i agree on one point: kb is stupid and shouldn't exist.
too many infos are up there for someone that knows what to look at

ANOTHER GOOD POINT
Schnozymandias
Doomheim
#5 - 2017-03-22 21:57:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Schnozymandias
So go make your own, and make sure only the person with the max damage gets the entry. Not quite sure how you can boycott a service you don't pay for.
ARES DES1DERATA
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2017-03-22 22:21:24 UTC  |  Edited by: ARES DES1DERATA
Schnozymandias wrote:
So go make your own, and make sure only the person with the max damage gets the entry. Not quite sure how you can boycott a service you don't pay for.

WHY WOULD MAX DAMAGE GET THE "ENTRY"? NONSENSE. TRY LOOKING UP THE DEFINITION OF BOYCOTT.
Oreb Wing
Last Rites.
Villore Accords
#7 - 2017-03-23 02:39:14 UTC
There really is no other way to see who 'deserves' the kill mail. Top damage is in its own parameter and therefore can be parsed into some data.

Just forget the inaccuracies and settle yourself on high whoreing mails as a sign of high participation numbers. I, on the other hand, really do enjoy the odd km here and there that can tell a story in itself.

Once, I held tackle on a boosted and pilled up Hawk with an AB active rep Comet with high kinetic resists. I had something stupid like 12k dmg on it but the other friend who got there to help me top him off got the km with 500 dmg. He doesn't play anymore and isn't registered to eve-kill, so sadly I can't look it up from there. I have to fish it out of my notebook in-game of freak km's. Or maybe I'm just remembering how it used to be.. Anyway, it was a pretty hilarious fight with my trusty NOS and repair implants.
Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#8 - 2017-03-23 05:55:35 UTC
The question is " how would you do it? "

1. Final blow - I have final blow with a tiny tiny hit, guy with 99% Damage gets screwed and it just comes down to RNG for most KMs.
2. Highest damage - So the guy with the Dread or Super (or just the higher damage line men) gets all the KMs while the Logis and tackle get nothing.
3. Some crazy unrealistically complicated look at each battle and who was the most critical pilot in the kill. I support this one but its not realistic.

There is no good way to do it so everyone just uses the metrics that keeps everyone happy (Other than you).
ARES DES1DERATA
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2017-03-23 12:01:38 UTC
FINAL BLOW IS THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT - WHOEVER GOT THE FINAL BLOW IS THE ONE WHO GOT THE KILL, THERE'S NO DEBATE HERE, ANYTHING ELSE IS JUST STUPIDITY.
ARES DES1DERATA
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2017-03-23 12:08:39 UTC
GUY WITH 99% DAMAGE GETS "SCREWED" - TOUGH, SHOULDN'T HAVE LET SOMEONE STEAL HIS KILL.
Ne0SHNIK
NISMO RACING
#11 - 2017-03-23 14:45:21 UTC
Pretty sure this caps rage machine is just a troll Smile
Skelee VI
Wraithguard.
The Wraithguard.
#12 - 2017-03-23 15:20:59 UTC
Want some cheese with that whine!
Killboards measure activity, nobody cares about loses kills etc
ARES DES1DERATA
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2017-03-23 15:35:46 UTC
Skelee VI wrote:
Want some cheese with that whine!
Killboards measure activity, nobody cares about loses kills etc

HAHAHA YEAH SURE
Zirashi
Cyclical Destruction
#14 - 2017-03-23 18:37:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Zirashi
The game already gives killmails only to the deliverer of the final blow. Go into your character sheet and find your personal kills. Only the ones you got the final hit will show. Problem solved.
ARES DES1DERATA
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2017-03-23 18:48:55 UTC
Zirashi wrote:
The game already gives killmails only to the deliverer of the final blow. Go into your character sheet and find your personal kills. Only the ones you got the final hit will show. Problem solved.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT KILLBOARDS, NOT IN-GAME KILLMAILS, BUT NICE TRY DUMMY
Zirashi
Cyclical Destruction
#16 - 2017-03-23 18:52:52 UTC
Why, did someone bash your killboard and hurt your feelings?
ARES DES1DERATA
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2017-03-23 19:05:27 UTC
Zirashi wrote:
Why, did someone bash your killboard and hurt your feelings?

BECAUSE THEIR KILLBOARD IS ILLEGITIMATE AND STUPID, JUST LIKE YOU
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
It Burns When I'm PvPing
#18 - 2017-03-23 22:37:39 UTC
Hey now, no calling people a dummy. Or a stupid. I know this is an emotional issue but let's settle down.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

ARES DES1DERATA
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2017-03-24 00:24:26 UTC
Cearain wrote:
Hey now, no calling people a dummy. Or a stupid. I know this is an emotional issue but let's settle down.

YOU TALK LIKE ONE YOU GET SLAPPED LIKE ONE
ISD Chanisa Nemes
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
#20 - 2017-03-24 14:11:18 UTC
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