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DandyDan Madullier
Doomheim
#1 - 2017-03-22 13:52:58 UTC
09:27 16/03/2017
[Dominix,
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II

Large Micro Jump Drive
100MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

250mm Railgun II
250mm Railgun II
250mm Railgun II
250mm Railgun II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II

Hornet II x5
Curator II x5
Warden II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x6
Acolyte II x5

Antimatter Charge M x1505

I do have very disheartening Slow GTFO (My first desperate try at a Battleship- and much too Lumbery slow for me) so I may have to go back to Mining or just fly my Anathema or Viator. I am wondering why I bought a Stratios? except it looks nice.

I am even losing Warden II's at 70+ km.
All through the L3 and now L4 often lose Hammerhead II's).
My first l3 was a disaster until CCP put it right and gave me another Myrmidon. Yes I have 2.
I Know that 250mm Railguns are light but still waiting for 250mm + Turrets skills and why I tried Sentry's)
All Drone skills seem OK but not perfect.and as far as I can see none missing.I do have hard copies of all the skills in abc-I think, which is a heavy amount of paper..and massive reading.

Any advice would be appreciated unless, its go back to Scrabble.
Ahmed Ibn Rustah
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2017-03-22 14:09:34 UTC
OK that fit is not great. I prefer to armour tank my Domi's see below;

You don't need the guns but you do need the TP. Paint the trigger so the rats shoot you and not your drones. If you are not using it yet then look at http://eve-survival.org/ for mission walk through's.

Pulse the rep as needed you don't need/want to be cap stable. When you get into the mission start painting and wait for the rats to agro you BEFORE launching drones. Stay near your drones and if they get agro pull them in, wait for agro to change back yI have assumed you are missioning in Gallente space hence the Kin/Therm hardners. Have a spare EM, Explosive and ENAM in your cargo hold so you can change resists to fit the mission damage type as needed.

[Dominix, Unnamed loadout]
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermal Hardener II
Damage Control II
Large Armor Repairer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Large Cap Battery II
Phased Scoped Target Painter
500MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Heavy Stasis Grappler II

Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
[empty high slot]

Large Nanobot Accelerator I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I





Anize Oramara
The Arch Dashing Dashers
#3 - 2017-03-22 14:13:27 UTC
If you are going to shield tank, add 2 rat specific hardeners, or at least two invuls. I'd recommend doing Armor tank (armor reps + hardeners) though and adding omnidirecitonal tracking comps and maybe a paint in the mids instead of doing a shield tank. The paint will help grab some of the aggro. A single remote rep might also help with both aggro and sentry survivability.

Fake edit: What Ahmed said.

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3

Ne0SHNIK
NISMO RACING
#4 - 2017-03-22 14:22:57 UTC
You should aim for the Rattlesnake, but as far as Domi's go - I prefer a snipe fit. Get 120km out with a MJD and snipe small ships. Rep your drones if they take damage. Here is a cheap fit that can do most L4s, but not all of them. Also be sure to change hardeners.

[Dominix, Dominix fit]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Armor EM Hardener II
Dark Blood Large Armor Repairer
Capacitor Power Relay II
Armor Thermal Hardener II
Damage Control II

Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
100MN Afterburner II
Large Micro Jump Drive

Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Medium S95a Scoped Remote Shield Booster

Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Garde II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Warden II x5
DandyDan Madullier
Doomheim
#5 - 2017-03-22 14:34:10 UTC  |  Edited by: DandyDan Madullier
Thanks so far folks,
I did think about a Rattler but same again short of skills, atleast no-one thought losing a WardenII was much.

I have been considering Armour but when I see 71000 on Defense it seems OK

Thanks very much
Alasdan Helminthauge
AirHogs
Hogs Collective
#6 - 2017-03-22 14:36:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Alasdan Helminthauge
I also prefer a sniper fit, and I think the fit above is a bit overtanked.

My fit:

[Dominix, lv4 runner]
Damage Control Unit II
Energized Anti-Explosive Nano Pump II
Large Armor Repairer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Large Micro Jump Drive
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Large Capacitor Battery II

Salvager I
Salvager I
Auto Target System II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Hornet II x5
Vespa II x5
Caldari Navy Wasp x5
Warden II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5

Scan Resolution Script
Tracking Speed Script x2

(all hand-typing, might misspell something)
an MWD, an MTU and a mobile depot in cargohold

if you control the range right, you can do a lv4 blockade without taking any armor damage.
remember to change drones according to the rat type.
DandyDan Madullier
Doomheim
#7 - 2017-03-22 21:51:07 UTC
willing to give anything a go

Thanks All
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2017-03-22 23:58:36 UTC
Just wanted to say it's always better to be safe than sorry. There's no shame in dropping back to level 3 missions while waiting for skills to get trained up.

Anyway, hope you have good luck and much success.



DMC
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#9 - 2017-03-23 00:34:11 UTC
71000 is a lot of damage to soak up, but no reps means no staying power. Most of my fits are around 30k-50k but can repair another 100 every second, and I fit resists which multiply my repairs by 2 or 3, heck maybe more. Also I can actively pilot to take less damage. combine those factors and I can stay on field till the mission is done.

I like that your fit has an AB and a MJD so you can learn to use both of those to position yourself in the mission to max your damage and minimize incoming npc damage.

the other thing I can say is learn to pay attention to your drones, sentries have nice HP and should be scoopable before they get popped.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

DandyDan Madullier
Doomheim
#10 - 2017-03-23 09:46:51 UTC
I agree with you am trying to jump ahead too fast,

So Back to level 3's whilst Allow Skills to develop properly.

I believe Skills are the B all and End all of this game, as long as one does not waste time on the wrong ones.

For other Newbies struggling - I have only just realised that all Faction Drones have to be Skill Trained decently to use their Drones.

I would have noticed in in the Drone Info, if it states that it is an Amarr/Gallente Drone or whatever. So really because I like the Idea of Drones I only Trained up Gallente fully.

Quite obviously I dont read properly,

A good Job we have decent people to help us.

Thanks