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Changes to combat invulnerable cloaky campers

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Ajem Hinken
WarFear Gaming
#21 - 2017-03-15 18:58:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Ajem Hinken
Krieg Austern wrote:
My idea had more to do with eliminating the afk cloaky campers, rather than the whole play style.

Where is the gameplay in someone deliberately griefing systems by being in local and not doing anything? Sure, psychological warfare is a big part, but how do you know it's psychological warfare vs "ha ha, cloaked up, now I'm going to go do something else for a whole day because it will annoy everyone". Even if it's an hour... if you are not at the game, why shouldn't there be a way to kill you? And if you are there, jump to your next safe and recloak - why is this so difficult?

Every time a miner or ratter posts a thread about being blown up out of nowhere, people are quick to point out "well you shouldn't be afk playing". This door should swing both ways.

Yeah, allow mining drills to damage cloaked ships lol

And yes, that was sarcasm. I bloody know drills can't do anything to ships (which makes no sense, as if drills can dig rock, why can't they dig a hole in your hull?)

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6875494#post6875494 - Ship mounted explosives. Because explosions and Jita chaos.
Krieg Austern
#22 - 2017-03-15 19:05:15 UTC
Merin Ryskin wrote:
If your alliance is crippled by having a single person in local 23/7 then your alliance sucks, and deserves to be crippled until you all ragequit and go back to highsec. 0.0 is not supposed to be risk-free effort-free PvE farming, either organize a defense fleet that can insta-kill any cloaker that tries to do anything but sit cloaked and idle, or STFU.


Risk free like... sitting camped in a cloaked ship for as long as you want? Insta-kill a cloaker who lights a cyno dropping ships on you, and by the time you are done dealing with that has waited out their cyno and cloaked back up for another go? Where exactly is the risk in that side of equation?

As I said, I don't have a problem with that game style at all, perfectly valid - it's the complete immunity of cloaked campers that is an issue.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#23 - 2017-03-15 23:09:29 UTC
Krieg Austern wrote:
Merin Ryskin wrote:
If your alliance is crippled by having a single person in local 23/7 then your alliance sucks, and deserves to be crippled until you all ragequit and go back to highsec. 0.0 is not supposed to be risk-free effort-free PvE farming, either organize a defense fleet that can insta-kill any cloaker that tries to do anything but sit cloaked and idle, or STFU.


Risk free like... sitting camped in a cloaked ship for as long as you want? Insta-kill a cloaker who lights a cyno dropping ships on you, and by the time you are done dealing with that has waited out their cyno and cloaked back up for another go? Where exactly is the risk in that side of equation?

As I said, I don't have a problem with that game style at all, perfectly valid - it's the complete immunity of cloaked campers that is an issue.


Oh honey, I don't know what you are talking about. I was tried to be "humped" upon by bad sacks and they failed and caught their 8 fail blackops in their own bubble.

You know what you gotta do?

Go next door with your ratting carrier and don't blame afk accounts for being afk. Only uncloaked ships can hurt your isk- errm ego- errm no feelings.

Eve Minions is recruiting.

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Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#24 - 2017-03-15 23:43:42 UTC
there's this thing called a gatecamp
you can use it to keep people out of a system

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ISD Chanisa Nemes
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#25 - 2017-03-16 02:07:42 UTC
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