EVE General Discussion

If you just gave away 16 Billion ISK worth of stuff and have done it without multiboxing, then there's hardly much advantage in multiboxing.

16 Billion, oh poor you. The game is so unfair with cheats who multibox. You can hardly make any ISK at all.....well of course aside from 16 Billion in a short playing time.

Very much this.
And its not even the drudgery of such practical matters that is worst, its the inevitable, incessant interpersonal drama.

Though in my work as a nurse I am compassionate and understanding towards my patients without reservations, not for the pay but the calling, I really cba at all with interpersonal drama outside of it. Ill take a good, fair shot at sorting it, and if it fails, Ill just walk out of it.

Aaron, this project will have to be very much a labor of love, as your true meta in EVE, cos it certainly wont help your nerves or earn isk :D

Ill help when and how I can.

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PS: I have no idea what this multiboxing nonsense is about.
I was a very vocal proponent of making key broadcasting illegal when it was an issue.
It was really, really bad back then.
I was concerned it may have become so endemic and widespread that upteen % of accounts would turn out to be broadcast alts.
Im glad EVE survived the change as well as it did, and was done before things got worse.

Lack of corp mechanics will make all of us more vulnerable, not less.
Sure, no wardecs, but it wont be hard for spais to infiltrate and arrange suicide ganks on participants.
Trolls will show up en masse as a result of your reputation (and perhaps mine, dunno if anyone cares), and cos trolls gonna troll.
(Not so much a problem, trolls can be fun too)

My point being its going to be anything but "relaxed".
An easygoing attitude, and everyone flying cheap, will help.
But we will have to fight/compete for every square inch, and every second.

We will probably be at more risk than a low-profile corp operating in a fringe HS system somewhere.

Still, I think its worth a shot, and hopefully there are NPC corp players out there that are prepared to share the risk of the platform, inorder to help build it and get some fun/social/profit out of it as long as they cover their own asses according to Golden Rules.

If we handle it well and get really lucky, some of the trolls/antagonists might even decide there is more fun/profit in working with the platform, than against it.

Drama queen time Aaron? But I will bite.

Your memory is failing you, last time I was involved with you I kept my distance and it was my corp FC who gave up on you when you put forward a RR Drake doctrine without points or any tackle ships. In the end he just said go ahead do it if you want, but don't expect us to do it, I went as far as saying I would sit in one but of course that is me being negative.

As I said, I wish you well, but I think you will do jack...

I have no idea what you are talking about, but if it makes you happy...

This...

"...make a confederation (not alliance) of solo corps around a system of chat channels, mailing lists, and maybe freeport citadels.
Make a text art logo and prominently display it in your members' bios. There is an ice mining group based out of Seil that does that and it's apparently it's the best defense against wardecs, awox, and corp theft that there is. They have community, identity, and plenty of fun while being functionally immune to wardecs and taxes."

Pull this together and I'll relocate.

Corp by Chat Channel.

NPC corps, you can block individual players, awoxers, trolls.

No threat of corp theft.

All the benefit of group play and communication, minus the ability to control Sov, but who cares about that. There are what, a dozen people who essentially control all of null so it's just a pipe-dream for the 99% of the rest of us.

Organize ops, mining fleets, roaming fleets, ratting fleets...

This is the best, and really only, option to get CCP to fix the problem. 400 active wardecs? really?

CORP BY CHAT

Let's do this.

And the screwing has started right here on this page.

Pfft...

Hello,

Ok, so it looks as if our voice server is sorted it will be Discord. You will be able to verify that myself or any other admin will not be able to see your IP address or any other personal details.

I'm a little concerned about security (spies/awoxers) and I don't think we can stop them. A keen and determined spy will be able to appear normal until a crucial moment where there are serious assets or isk on the line, we know this to be true based on the stories we have all heard.

If we do PVP and use frigates in big numbers then our opponents most logical way of killing us all will be a pipe bomb. for those of you that dont know a pipe bomb is a fleet of pilots fitted with a specific type of smart bomb where they are also tanked heavily against the damage the pipe bomb does. They will all start smart bombing at the same time any ship nearby and not tanked against the specific damage will die quickly with no opportunity to do anything.

The only way they can set us up for a pipe bomb is if an awoxing scout jumps us into a system where the pipe bombers are set up OR the pipe bombers scout and cyno guy wait for our scout to clear the system and then they light a cyno on our destination gate and bring in the pipe bombers for us to warp into.

We can avoid the first scenario by ensuring we know the guys who scout on our pvp ops. the second scenario we can avoid by moving slowly through low sec and creating bookmarks for us to warp to between gates. If we deviate from these play styles then we are at risk from pipe bombs.

Win or Lose lets just get some fun out of Eve, Lets not get too frustrated even if this doesnt work out. Lets all keep a cool head and keep disagreements respectful and adult like.