Player Features and Ideas Discussion

How about adding ALL the fittings to the test server markets. Not having access to faction\deadspace modules kinda limits the ability to test out new fits that require any modules that are not T2 or T1.

Hunting down faction modules is a royal pain.

officer fit everything isn't realistic
this being eve, everyone on the test server just flies capitals all the time anyways

Oh is that what happened? Odd, I was there for that mass test. I definitely remember getting one of each Titan in my hanger for that, but I couldn't fly any of them. Did you have to issue a command or something to obtain the skills to fly them?

No matter. Anyway, back on topic, CCP has very clearly stated in the past that they precisely do NOT want masses of faction/deadspace/officer fits in their mass tests because it throws off the results of what would otherwise be plausible testing conditions. It's been asked and answered quite a few times already and it's not going to change, ever.

I can understand a bit of the confusion, because back when I was new to the game and I didn't have third-party tools at my disposal, I too thought "test" server was to "test" my craft first and foremost since EvE (at the time) had no fitting tools so it was very difficult to figure out how certain pieces of equipment interacted and how well it fit together. But alas, yes, the "test" server is to test CCP changes to the game first and foremost, and we get to toy around in there as a secondary feature. It's a luxury afforded to us, the players, not a tool provided to us.

How would that make it unusable? Even if it increased the number of powerful camping gangs (I'm pretty sure it'd do the opposite), how would it make the test server unusable? The test server has had a highly oppressive and volatile community since it went public, yet that doesn't stop people from undocking free ships in less-populated areas to give them a quick try. If anything, it just makes it easier to get it into a duel to test it properly.

To my other point: I haven't been on the test server but from my experience in many games (especially Diablo 2 Open Multiplayer), I'd wager there are probably a significant population of folks who play exclusively on the test server, farming and building officer, deadspace, and faction armaments for the sole purpose of dominating unexpecting testers. Handing out this stuff for free will make that cheap high easier to achieve and, by extension, both less rewarding and less worth spending time on. End result is fewer cheese-camping test-server-denizens, not more. You might get more PVPers who want a fair(er) fight, but that only increases the chance they give you a fighting chance in a fight, which-as I mentioned-makes it faster and easier to test your ship.



PYFA, you mean. EFT is already integrated into Tranquility.

It should be. Two of the main things CCP keeps it public for are:
1.) as much traffic as possible to spot as many bugs as possible as early as possible
2.) as much traffic as possible for lag research

Whether or not Singularity was meant to be an interactive PYFA, whether or not it has integrated PYFA design elements, if players feel like it grants them PYFA usage and that brings them into the test server, it's a win on both sides. CCP doesn't need to expend development resources in order to merely nod in acceptance and defend this branch of test server functionality.

Isn't there highsec and lowsec on SiSi? What is stopping it from being all titans now? Officer modules don't make as much difference as the hull makes, but it also shows that the subcap modules are a bit OP on caps and there you already have more useful info coming from the test server.

Sorry, I don't see your point.

I still don't see it. Who are we to tell people what they can or can't test on SiSi? If they choose to use it for gameplay purposes then I can't see how they're enjoying that, but it still gives useful info about the game. But there is no way SiSi will ever be anything even remotely similar to a "real world" environment of TQ.