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Driving people to commit suicide.

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LordOdysseus
HIgh Sec Care Bears
Brothers of Tangra
#1 - 2017-02-17 02:13:40 UTC
If I haven't been posting funny stuff in LAGL today, it is because I found out that one of my friends in a metaphysical oriented Facebook group(in which he was a regular fixture) has committed suicide two weeks ago and I only learned about it this evening. All attempts to contact him was futile as nobody knew where he lived IRL. He was a very cheerful person and up until May 11, 2016 he was posting happy,motivational stuff in the group. Then, all of his posts and comments after that date took a sharp U-turn and became full of resentment and hate until the day he left the group without telling anyone. Now why the title? I'll tell you why I noticed there is a thread in OOPE where there is someone who needs help and people are trolling him instead. This type of mobbing occurs hourly in EVE's Facebook group(my friend didn't play EVE afaik) and admins do nothing about it. I was a brutally honest person who could be sometimes called "inconsiderate and lacking empathy greatly". I was neutral towards mocking stupidity until this thing occurred. What I suggest you all is please think twice before not being nice on a greater scale.

His last post on his wall was a suicide note:

Quote:
Farewell to all my facebook friends. I’ll be leaving this world today. I’ve been suffering with anxiety, depression, poverty, and loneliness for 10 years now. I can’t wait for this cruel world to change any longer. It’s time to say goodbye and move on.
I wish all of you the best of luck during this time of planetary transformation. Unfortunately, I won’t be a part of it. Relief is simply too far away and I can’t hold on anymore.
I salute each and every one of you brave souls for marching on. I will do my best to assist you all from the other side. May we meet together in heaven someday.
Goodbye, my friends
-Xxxxxx


I don't expect this post to change anything. I just wanted to share my thoughts with you because I think it is worth sharing. I may clarify the details of this story tomorrow or I may not. Depends on if there is any part that confuses the reader.

Have a good dawn and fly safe o7
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#2 - 2017-02-17 04:04:33 UTC
Ah man. Yeah. Sad

Well, if anything to say... metaphysical folk are the best of us. Same as Vincent Van Gogh, Werner Heisenberg, Arthur Rimbaud, Neils Bohr, Anthony, Hermann Hesse, Syd Barrett, Basho Matsuo, William Blake, Albert Einstein, current quantum physics thinkers, and worlds of unrecorded people doing the same thing before them. (It's just a quick sample list of some fine rebellious eccentric people, not a select opinionated list or anything).

At the same time, Theo Van Gogh and other people maybe not as right on the edge. But more solid and equally as beautiful. Some choose to never grow up and just keep exploring and trying to figure out, human social and economic rules be damned. How about that, eh? Smile Been going on since the first proto-opossum ancestor checked out the Moon, sat and wondered about why it's today and not yesterday, felt happy, and cruised around sniffing up good food in the bright Moonlight. Blessed be the sniffers forever.

o7


Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#3 - 2017-02-17 08:59:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
I once visited a forum where people were just like him and they made fun of themselves, posting exagerated stories about them being beaten with the Croc-Pot cable by father and walking to the shop using underground net of severs so nobody will see them. They used to troll normals and themselves to the hell. They were all shy, 30, 40, 50 year old virgins and never kissed a girl. Probably this black sense of humour was what made them so cool and popular in that forum. They were like a clown that trips over his own shoes, but even outside his circus performance. And he have to wear oversized shoes not because its funny, but because he have such big feets.

They usually posted a phrase like: I failed in life. Cool

But there was never anything about killing themselves, they seemed to accept that they will work in a discount store all their life, having fun with what they had. Other people like themselves.

Its really sad that somebody must have been so sad and resigned that he choose death.

o7
Val Kaleth
Realm of Mischief
DammFam
#4 - 2017-02-17 11:04:13 UTC
Wait, who is being trolled?

Feel free to join me in game in the "Realm of Mischief" channel.

🇮🇪

disappears in a cloud of rust

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#5 - 2017-02-17 12:00:24 UTC
It was fairly elitist group, as ironic as it may seem, irony and sexual fetishes were wery popular themes in their posts. They were like those people who post pepe and call other people normalfags. But It was 9 years ago and they posted a rudimantary depiction of a guy with sunshades and a cap, a [cool] icon.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#6 - 2017-02-18 23:48:08 UTC
"normalfrogs" Smile Nice that those guys accepted themselves and adapted. Good strategy they had there.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#7 - 2017-02-19 14:25:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2017-02-22 00:59:02 UTC
Cry Damn story digs deep. Sorry for your friend and your loss, but hey he wasn't wrong this world does need to change, for the better. But then again welcome to the human race, and the internet.

o7 fly safe
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#9 - 2017-02-22 02:16:04 UTC
dang :/

You make good points with what you say...but...it is the internet...

Saccade Amir
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2017-02-26 19:35:46 UTC
The internet is made of people, like us. This post is a sobering reminder that we can do a better job of remembering that. Things can get so awful. God. Just TRY to be kind--try. Try to help others be kind too. We all need it sometimes.
Amojin
Doomheim
#11 - 2017-03-10 19:09:56 UTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHijxiohyc8

Anyone wanna bet that this guy does the exact same thing before he's 40?

I don't want to put too fine a point on it, but this is what we expect to see in this era. The rapid expansion of technology has had a very deleterious effect on humanity. It allows you to amplify everything, exponentially.

You would think that would be awesome. Now we can help anyone, anywhere around the world! But, that exponential progression thing...

If you were 'good' 10% of the time, in real life, and evil and self absorbed the other 90% of the time? Take that and multiply it a few thousands of times. How many people are now being 'good' at any one time?

The capacity to completely overwhelm someone with vitriol and hate is a LOT greater, now, and if they take these pixels seriously?

Sorry, if you're waiting for man to be better, you're gonna be depressed, a lot. You need to have a foundation aside from your fellow man, either religion, or self sufficiency, or valuing yourself with the ability to stand completely alone, because a lot of life is lived, completely alone.

It's sad what happened to him, but it was not something anyone didn't see coming. This virtual **** is something you really need to try to pay attention to, and remember that you can close the tab and walk away. Look around. Are those detractors still in your face? No. So it's ok.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#12 - 2017-03-13 00:17:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
Amojin wrote:
The rapid expansion of technology has had a very deleterious effect on humanity. It allows you to amplify everything, exponentially.

Yes. The Industrial Revolution wiped out the extended family/clan lifestyle we humans had since the very beginning. Instead, now we (in the wealthy world) have the 'nuclear family.' Basically, you don't have the tribe to run with, you don't have the clan where everybody knows you and you know everybody else. In social situations, you're on your own, and you have to be kind of a social entrepreneur, or you can end up isolated. It's a psychologically difficult lifestyle. Humans evolved as social pack animals, we're not built for solo roaming.

That social transformation started with basic industrialization, 200 years ago. With the rate of tech influence on daily lives now... who knows.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#13 - 2017-03-13 16:18:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Amojin wrote:
The rapid expansion of technology has had a very deleterious effect on humanity. It allows you to amplify everything, exponentially.

Yes. The Industrial Revolution wiped out the extended family/clan lifestyle we humans had since the very beginning. Instead, now we (in the wealthy world) have the 'nuclear family.' Basically, you don't have the tribe to run with, you don't have the clan where everybody knows you and you know everybody else. In social situations, you're on your own, and you have to be kind of a social entrepreneur, or you can end up isolated. It's a psychologically difficult lifestyle. Humans evolved as social pack animals, we're not built for solo roaming.

That social transformation started with basic industrialization, 200 years ago. With the rate of tech influence on daily lives now... who knows.

But we have advances in communication. Problem is, there is always some problem with communication between humans..
ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#14 - 2017-03-18 20:52:24 UTC
Removed a post and those quoting it for trolling.

ISD Max Trix

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Veine Miromme
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2017-03-19 23:26:59 UTC
It is sad, knowing he may have given his life for those he loved in a more efficient way, and without intent to do it illegally.

I worked in a mental health hospital myself and it should no doubt be reported.

I find people trying to drive others to feel bad about themselves everyday.
Even law enforcement official do it, thinking that they are helping society when in fact not.

Ship Type : Out of pod (for now)

Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2017-03-26 20:28:20 UTC
LordOdysseus wrote:

I don't expect this post to change anything. I just wanted to share my thoughts with you because I think it is worth sharing.


There's a saying which goes:

"Every person you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about. Be kind. Always."

It has the ring of authenticity about it, and initially I accepted it as true and promised myself to take on board the proffered advice. However, I soon forgot those words and discarded (perhaps even sooner), the advice.

Your post resurrected the quote, which had apparently remained intact in my head.

In a past job I had the privilege of reading a great number of suicide notes. I say 'privilege' because some people, on the very point of ending their lives, become possessed of a kind of eerie wisdom which should shake the very mountains with its awful simplicity.

It is snippets from those messages which I do still recall, many years after I first read them. They have been useful to me, but not in any conscious way. From the 17 year old lad who left us, writing only 'f*** everyone', to the cultured elderly lady who covered page after page in a close barely-legible scrawl (an autobiography, essentially), the ones who write (not all do) are earnest in sending us a message, almost from beyond; or else why do it? We should take note of what they say.

People will tell you that the mind of someone intent on ending their life is a complex mix of current problems and historical issues which require a professional to fully grasp, and a 'care-plan' in the form of a rescue. This may be true, but I tell you from my experience that what is also common to all suicides is this: they lose hope.

If, in being kind to folks, you are able to encourage them to regain that hope (not 'be optimistic' or 'look on the bright side') you will have done more than a freighter full of psychiatrists. You will also have succeeded in doing the near-impossible.

So yes, be kind; but understand yourself; you're also fighting a battle no-one knows anything about. Your body, mind, spirit, and emotions - all deserve kindness (which is really just concerned and helpful attention) - from you.

I don't go around trying to spot opportunities to 'help'. Rather, opportunities present themselves in a natural way.

To the OP: Thank you for having the will to publish that letter. Let's hope that it reaches the person who needs it most.