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Undock invulnerability timer
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Maru Tanako
Doomheim
#1 - 2017-03-10 18:41:38 UTC
Is it gone? Obviously I was blown on undock, max 5 seconds after screen went black . Screen still black, no way to move or even see what's outside and by the time it goes live I'm already in the pod. I don't mind being blown, that's a dog eat dog we're playing here and everyone's gotta make their living somehow but how do I counter this? As insta undock won't help here ... shall I move stuff with a Drake now RollQuestion
Soel Reit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2017-03-10 18:51:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Soel Reit
as master JEBI would say:

Jebi wrote:

LAG!!!!!
only LAG can kill me



EDIT: speaking a little more seriously OP, maybe try to submit a ticket to CCP and hope that something went wrong..!
sometimes server may be not on point :)
Cade Windstalker
#3 - 2017-03-10 19:26:54 UTC
Nope, undock invulnerability is still there. Should only have broken if you issued a command to your ship on undocking.

Also were you killed on a Citadel or Station?

As Soel said, I would file a ticket with CCP with as much detail as you can provide plus your loss mail.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2017-03-10 20:18:36 UTC
If you are sure you didn't give any command to your ship, petition it.

Just curious, is it the 750 mill prorator killed by a nado?
Maru Tanako
Doomheim
#5 - 2017-03-10 20:33:45 UTC
Command was given right before pod being ejected and I've heard explosions even before screen fade in.

Also damn zkillboard. Yeah it was Blink

Cade Windstalker wrote:
Nope, undock invulnerability is still there. Should only have broken if you issued a command to your ship on undocking.

Also were you killed on a Citadel or Station?

As Soel said, I would file a ticket with CCP with as much detail as you can provide plus your loss mail.


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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#6 - 2017-03-11 00:49:16 UTC
Maru Tanako wrote:
I was blown on undock,


Lucky fella. Get married. Then you won't get blown so often.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#7 - 2017-03-11 00:58:45 UTC
Baited on a free undock...

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#8 - 2017-03-11 02:57:16 UTC
it is still there, but jita can be just busy enough you don't load before it ends. And fitting enough EHP to not get blapped by a nado certainly helps.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#9 - 2017-03-11 03:02:58 UTC
I have had pods being blown up as the screen loads on alts. I have also instaed pods myself because of this.

I even submitted my own logs and CCP said it was all fine. Timestamps being under the timer from hitting the button to destruction. Live with it.

Sometimes youre the dog, sometimes youre the hydrant.RollTwisted

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Nikea Tiber
Backwater Enterprises RD
#10 - 2017-03-11 06:52:37 UTC
Re: Jita 4-4 undock

Have an insta BM made ~500km from the undock, have people and places up before you undock. If your PC struggles maintaining 30+ fps small gang combat, lowering you graphics settings can help you load grid faster. Obviously, fitting enough buffer to not get insta-blapped by a 'nado is also extremely helpful.

my other nano is a polycarb
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
#11 - 2017-03-11 14:54:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Algarion Getz
Maru Tanako wrote:
Is it gone? Obviously I was blown on undock, max 5 seconds after screen went black . Screen still black, no way to move or even see what's outside and by the time it goes live I'm already in the pod. I don't mind being blown, that's a dog eat dog we're playing here and everyone's gotta make their living somehow but how do I counter this? As insta undock won't help here ... shall I move stuff with a Drake now RollQuestion

There is sometimes a lot of delay and lag when you undock, especially when you undock for the first time after starting the client. I dunno why, but Ascension made it a lot worse, my screen is black for up to 20s after undocking.

Solution: You are invulnerable for 30s after undocking. Dont give any commands to your ships until the grid and the scene is fully loaded. Then warp to an insta undock spot.
Gulboy
Absolute Order
Absolute Honor
#12 - 2017-03-11 14:58:06 UTC
We don't have a flag for undock invulnerability right? That would make a lot of things much easier for everyone if there isn't any.
Maru Tanako
Doomheim
#13 - 2017-03-11 16:50:41 UTC
Just to be clear - it wasn't Jita, insta bm is useless when you're blind, rig can handle the game in a sleep mode, and undock felt like usual 10-15 seconds counted from hitting "undock" to fade in. As much as PITA it is, flying a brick seems to be the only solution to fight the lag Ugh

Ptraci wrote:
Maru Tanako wrote:
I was blown on undock,


Lucky fella. Get married. Then you won't get blown so often.


Already there, can't complain Cool

Algarion Getz wrote:
... Ascension made it a lot worse


Bilboards. I blame bilboards Roll

Gulboy wrote:
We don't have a flag for undock invulnerability right? That would make a lot of things much easier for everyone if there isn't any.


Not that I know of, and even though it wouldn't help this time it would be nice to have. Maybe extending timer to counter the lag wouldn't hurt also?

Speaking of time - when does the timer start?
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#14 - 2017-03-12 02:23:07 UTC
Fairly easy to fit most industrial ships to survive a single nado alpha, which is one of the most likely scenario to encounter, and no reason not to really in most cases, sure it won't necessarily stop you from dying.

If you are struggling with lag then when hauling its worth sitting another character at the insta-undock bookmark as I believe you can still initiate warp to that person from the fleet window while the grid is still loading and it will warp you at the first chance several server ticks before warping to a BM manually (this might have changed as I've not played properly in awhile).