EVE General Discussion

I hadn't even seen that forum. The conversations actually do look a lot more interesting, there, after having read through a few of them. Thanks for the tip, Aaron.

I trust if people follow me around like stalkers and demand that I retaliate with the thing that most annoys them, as religion seems to do for Cade, it'll be A-Ok?

It's still a good idea you came up with. I'll totally be happy to take out my aggression in 'out of pod,' if that's the place you can say whatever you want and not be harassed by mods.

20:43, Cade, on your post... Was I late?

Check the timestamps:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6867449#post6867449

Are you really so clever, coming up with this on your own, or are you, as usual, coming in after I admitted something, and acting like I was a liar, and you 'discovered' it, all on your own?

You're a pathetic fraud. You always have been, at least in your interactions with me on the forums. Maybe you should work on changing that instead of worrying about me?

Well, Salvos, Aaron seems pretty adamant about multi-boxing.

I notice he was real quiet when I was attacking gankers multi-boxing, but when I evened the scales and attacked the greedy multi-boxing miners, too, oh hell, was Aaron mad.

Bias.

Aaron has an agenda. Bias always points to an agenda. We all have one, hell, my bias is clear, I flat out told you all what it was, months ago, and I've had the same one. My bias is towards those that don't have 6 game clients running.

His idea, sure, good idea, but for whom? I wasn't kidding in my other post when I said this is limited, now, due to mechanics, by your real life pocket book.

He who pays the most, wins.

Yes it is.

He's proposing an unorthodox corporate structure replacement. How the hell are you going to tell me that you can be unorthodox in one manner of game play, and shoot down anything else?

He wants a corp, but not a corp. How the hell is it fair to multibox on profit, mining, and whine when gankers use it, too?

And the miners will always win, since theirs is really not time critical. No matter how much the gankers try to win, they can't be on 24 hours every day.

Those of you using the Orca, the hauler, and the 5 man fleet of skiffs, are WORSE, for the game, than anything you have griped about.

This is where you are 100% wrong Amojin, I do not want nor have I implied anything to do with an unorthodox corporate structure replacement. In fact I said the opposite where I respected the corp mechanic but felt the ROLE PLAY victims perhaps needed to step back from it for a period of time. I fully endorse joining a corp I just think that if you want to stay in hi sec you need to be well versed in lots of things..

Perhaps a group of guys may bond from this and create a corp..who knows...try to look at this as a simple platform for Eve where you can play Eve in a more relaxed manner while you sharpen your skills and decide your next corp move.

Amojin, Eve is GABOS (Game Ain't Based On Sympathy) nothing is fair here which is exactly the way I like it.

EDIT: oh and by the way...I coined the phrase GABOS..which is an indisputable fact. so if anyone wants to use it to sound cool in convos send me some isk.

Saying that you want us to step back and that we need to be well versed in 'things' is pretty generic. If I bother to play this game in the future, it'll be as a new alpha, with a new name, since I just gave 1 player about 4B worth of BPO, and 6 other players another 12B, and am going to delete these toons. I'm tired of pay to play, and it's not gonna happen, anymore. Tell me, Aaron, for my new know nothing, has nothing toon, if I bother to make one, what's the point?

We both know damned good and well that a lot of people, on both sides of the fence, are making a ton of money, with multiboxing. Do we all need to do that? Is that what it takes?

Do I have to set up a bunch of free miners, set them with T2 miners in a venture, and plug away? Who does that help? It's boring as ****. Sure, I can get rich, but what's the point?

Do I need to let people fool me, play Ender again, and let them tell me, oh, no, you really need to kill this bastard?

If you're not offering an alternate corporate structure, then what are you doing?

Lies!!! I coined the phrase in 1987.

Oh please....

NPSI is fun. If Aaron wants to make the effort to organise, lead and die alongside fellow NPC corp players then more power to him. That's content creation in action.

Ever join a Bombers Bar roam? It's an absolute blast. Join enough of them and you start to see a little of the work that goes on behind the scenes to organize it. It is not a trivial amount of effort in order to provide an extremely enjoyable activity for (initially at least) complete strangers. Loot donation, and from time to time, voluntary donations, are a small price to pay for a whole lot of fun. I haven't seen Aaron ask for anything in return for this, did I miss something?

Honestly, not sure why the hate towards an idea that could potentially introduce new blood to PvP, and provide targets for the pirates already living in low sec

Ships will burn on both sides, fun will be had on both sides. Don't fly what you can't afford to lose and no-one will have anything to cry about. Meet people, make friends, get awoxed by said "friends"...it's all good.

Whether or not it is successful remains to be seen. That would largely depend on those who end up running the fleets tbh, and how good they are at finding Good Fights™

A. A. Ron

If you want something like this to happen though you'd better be ready for a crap load of admin work, lol.

The amount of paperwork and logistics it takes to keep organizations in this game running is ridiculous. I'm honestly amazed some days.



I'm not telling you anything of the sort, I'm saying that Aaron's idea and this thread have nothing to do with the topic of multiboxing. If you want to discuss that make another thread for it, but that's kinda been done to death at this point. A quick search around the forums will find you a half dozen threads easily on the topic rehashing the same old arguments on both sides of the fence.

Still has nothing to do with this thread though.

Also, FYI, there are quite a few non-corp organizations in this game. This isn't really a new concept, just a new use of the general idea. Bomber's Bar is one example, the various public Incursion groups are another, same with Spectre Fleet, and there are others that aren't coming to mind at the moment.



Um, no, the bottom line is that Multiboxing isn't the holy grail you seem to think it is, and that it has nothing to do with this thread... no one in this game owes you any money. If you play smart, invest some effort, and do your homework you can be as rich or as poor as you want in this game.

I know one guy whose wallet seems to yo-yo between like 2b and 100b every month or two and all of that's his own time, effort, and a bit of horse trading.

No one owes you anything in this game. Not because you're poor, not because your computer can only run 1 client, and not because you're good or bad at the game. If you're good you go out and make ISK, if you're not you don't.