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How to raise my standing with caldari from negative?
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Treycore
Global Warmers Corp
#1 - 2017-03-10 18:11:51 UTC
Returning player, still lowish sp

Just moved my operations from gallente space to caldari space to be closer to jita

I'm sitting at -1.91 or something with the caldari and after diplomacy takes effect it's 0.09 standing

I was able to run level 3-4 missions with gallente but can only run level 1 missions with caldari, which are pretty stupid easy

Looking for an easy way to pump my standing up with caldari without having to grind level 1 missions, I did read there was a way to use isk to buy tags and turn them in somewhere for standing, any ideas where I can get started with that? I've tried looking around but so much information seems old/outdated/not fully explained

Training the social skills up isn't a priority for me, I have plenty of other things I still need to train, I just want the lower sales tax for the jita market and to do the occasional mission when I don't have much else to do
Soel Reit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2017-03-10 18:26:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Soel Reit
fleet up with someone that run lvl4 caldari missions.


tags are for security status, that is another thing respect standings with NPC.

sec status: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Security_status
fac standings: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Faction_Standings


anyway welcome back!!!!!!! Blink


EDIT: i almost forgot the almighty plan by number one DMC
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=10212
Torin Corax
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2017-03-10 18:31:26 UTC
Could always do the Sisters Of Eve Epic arc. Towards the end you get a choice to help out one of the factions that gives some very nice standing boost, without hurting the other faction standings. You get to choose which faction.
Don't really need a lot of SP for it either. A decent frig and/ or cruiser will breeze through the missions.

You may find it a bit grindy, but if you have a good T2 frig ( or a decent T1 frig/ cruiser if required) you can get through the arc pretty quickly.
Treycore
Global Warmers Corp
#4 - 2017-03-10 18:34:34 UTC
Torin Corax wrote:
Could always do the Sisters Of Eve Epic arc. Towards the end you get a choice to help out one of the factions that gives some very nice standing boost, without hurting the other faction standings. You get to choose which faction.
Don't really need a lot of SP for it either. A decent frig and/ or cruiser will breeze through the missions.

You may find it a bit grindy, but if you have a good T2 frig ( or a decent T1 frig/ cruiser if required) you can get through the arc pretty quickly.


I actually did fly over to arnon too see if I could do the epic arc, I remember I started it years ago but don't remember where I left off, the soe agent there wouldn't even talk to me
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#5 - 2017-03-10 19:55:34 UTC
Check your journal. Epic Arc missions don't expire - though I admit I haven't tried delaying them for years! Completion of the SOE arc is worth about 8% standing boost depending on your social skills

You can run the Caldari career missions - worth about 20% standing boost if you run all 3 sets. That plus the Epic Arc will easily get you into positive territory. You can also run the Amarr career missions - will give you some positive derived standing with Caldari.

There are also the circle missions - not worth much but easily run in a frigate. http://wiki.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?title=Circle_agents
000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
#6 - 2017-03-10 20:30:36 UTC
Just kill enough Bunnies and Gall Navy Big smile
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#7 - 2017-03-10 20:34:19 UTC
Look up "faction standings repair plan". Works wonders.


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Cade Windstalker
#8 - 2017-03-10 20:36:03 UTC
OP, regarding the SOE arc, check your Journal. There should be an active offer for the next piece somewhere in there.

Beyond that I recommend finding a system with a lot of Level 1 Caldari agents. Distribution is good if you can do it but combat isn't bad either. Pop open Eve Survival or your mission guide site of choice and start blitzing missions for Caldari corps. Ignore anything with faction kill except for Storyline missions.

Also you may want to position yourself near a Storyline agent so you need to travel less.

Ideally you want to find a system where you can blitz through multiple agent missions in rapid succession. This also lowers the chance of you getting blocked out by a run of faction kill missions on one agent. Remember the one free decline per four hours rule.

Ideally you want to run for a single corp until that corp's standings go up to the point that you can run level 2 or level 3 agents and keep blitzing them. Once you're up to Level 4 with a particular Corp you can run Level 4s with them regardless of your Caldari faction standings so long as it's not negative after Diplo.

At that point you can probably slow down and start running more for profit if you want to, or you can keep blitzing. Distribution missions are best for blitzing for standings, but anything works. The main challenge I find, more than the missions or actually getting the standings up, is keeping things interesting since missions, especially low level ones, aren't that interesting so my advice would be to prioritize fun over efficiency in any case where you find yourself torn between the two, since the trade off in efficiency is likely to be low.
Treycore
Global Warmers Corp
#9 - 2017-03-10 21:55:18 UTC
Do Little wrote:
Check your journal. Epic Arc missions don't expire - though I admit I haven't tried delaying them for years! Completion of the SOE arc is worth about 8% standing boost depending on your social skills

You can run the Caldari career missions - worth about 20% standing boost if you run all 3 sets. That plus the Epic Arc will easily get you into positive territory. You can also run the Amarr career missions - will give you some positive derived standing with Caldari.

There are also the circle missions - not worth much but easily run in a frigate. http://wiki.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?title=Circle_agents


Yeah you were right! There's an entire separate folder from the journal called epic journal, didn't notice that until now! Shows where I left off! Thanks!
Treycore
Global Warmers Corp
#10 - 2017-03-10 21:59:28 UTC
Cade Windstalker wrote:
OP, regarding the SOE arc, check your Journal. There should be an active offer for the next piece somewhere in there.

Beyond that I recommend finding a system with a lot of Level 1 Caldari agents. Distribution is good if you can do it but combat isn't bad either. Pop open Eve Survival or your mission guide site of choice and start blitzing missions for Caldari corps. Ignore anything with faction kill except for Storyline missions.

Also you may want to position yourself near a Storyline agent so you need to travel less.

Ideally you want to find a system where you can blitz through multiple agent missions in rapid succession. This also lowers the chance of you getting blocked out by a run of faction kill missions on one agent. Remember the one free decline per four hours rule.

Ideally you want to run for a single corp until that corp's standings go up to the point that you can run level 2 or level 3 agents and keep blitzing them. Once you're up to Level 4 with a particular Corp you can run Level 4s with them regardless of your Caldari faction standings so long as it's not negative after Diplo.

At that point you can probably slow down and start running more for profit if you want to, or you can keep blitzing. Distribution missions are best for blitzing for standings, but anything works. The main challenge I find, more than the missions or actually getting the standings up, is keeping things interesting since missions, especially low level ones, aren't that interesting so my advice would be to prioritize fun over efficiency in any case where you find yourself torn between the two, since the trade off in efficiency is likely to be low.


Yeah I grabbed a hastily put together catalyst to run the level 1's since I can't bring my myrmidon, I did missions for an hour or so and only got like 0.03 standing boost, I have a corpmate willing to run level 4's with me, I think that might help some... I personally just hate doing anything grinding, that's why I like eve more then any other mmo, haha

I think getting level 2's might be more bearable if I stick with this catalyst, might be a little more challenging
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2017-03-10 22:08:05 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Treycore wrote:
Returning player, still lowish sp

Just moved my operations from gallente space to caldari space to be closer to jita

I'm sitting at -1.91 or something with the caldari and after diplomacy takes effect it's 0.09 standing

I was able to run level 3-4 missions with gallente but can only run level 1 missions with caldari, which are pretty stupid easy

Looking for an easy way to pump my standing up with caldari without having to grind level 1 missions, I did read there was a way to use isk to buy tags and turn them in somewhere for standing, any ideas where I can get started with that? I've tried looking around but so much information seems old/outdated/not fully explained

Training the social skills up isn't a priority for me, I have plenty of other things I still need to train, I just want the lower sales tax for the jita market and to do the occasional mission when I don't have much else to do


Hello,

First of all I strongly urge you to train Diplomacy, Social and Connections skills up to lv 4. The benefits from those skills is definitely worth the small amount of time required to train them.

Now in order to quickly gain a significant amount of positive standing in the shortest amount of time, I suggest working some of the Data Center Agents.

Specifically there's 3 different level 1 Data Center 'Graduation Certificate' Agents located in high sec space for each Faction that offer a simple Courier mission. After completing those 3 Agents, take 1 of the Certs and go work the Agent whose name is listed on the 'Cert'. That Agent will offer a 5 part mission series which will introduce another Agent offering a 2 part mission series which needs to be completed first in order to complete the 5 part mission series from the Agent listed on the Cert.

All of those Agents will give a Faction and Corporation standing increase. Of course the steps listed above should also be done for the Allied Faction as well.

For example :

Work the 3 different level 1 Data Center 'Graduation Certificate' Agents for Caldari along with the 3 different level 1 Data Center 'Graduation Certificate' Agents for Amarr. Then after completing those Agents, work the Agent name listed on the 'Cert' for both Factions.

Completing those missions will make a huge difference in your standings. Afterwards if needed you can then complete missions for the Data Center 'Tag' Agents of both Factions. Course those will cost ISK to purchase the required amount of Pirate Tags needed to complete those missions.


Soel Reit wrote:
EDIT: i almost forgot the almighty plan by number one DMC
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=10212

Big smile

Thanks for the honorable mention.

Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:
Look up "faction standings repair plan". Works wonders.

Yes indeed, even after all these years 'The Plan' is still the quickest and easiest way to repair and or boost Faction standings.



DMC

EDIT : This thread should have been posted in the sub-forum - Missions & Complexes

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Cade Windstalker
#12 - 2017-03-10 22:21:19 UTC
Treycore wrote:
Yeah I grabbed a hastily put together catalyst to run the level 1's since I can't bring my myrmidon, I did missions for an hour or so and only got like 0.03 standing boost, I have a corpmate willing to run level 4's with me, I think that might help some... I personally just hate doing anything grinding, that's why I like eve more then any other mmo, haha

I think getting level 2's might be more bearable if I stick with this catalyst, might be a little more challenging


Running level 4s with a friend will definitely get your standings up faster than running lower level ones.

The big thing you need to keep in mind is that Faction Standings are pretty much only raised by Storyline missions (and the epic arcs, and a few other things, but mostly Storylines) so those missions you do are only really affecting your Agent and Corp standings.

If you want to get to the point of Level 4s quickly the fastest way is to just run missions with a friend who has access to a particular agent. If you two blitz through missions quickly you can get up to the 5.0 standings with the agent required for you to pull your own missions in probably 3-4 hours, maybe less, maybe more. Almost certainly less than 10 though.

At that point you can get missions from him and raise your corp standings more quickly, thus gaining access to the rest of that corp's agents, without your friend's help.

I honestly can't remember if both you and a friend can pull missions from the same agent and then share rewards through a fleet but I *believe* that works.
mkint
#13 - 2017-03-11 04:24:12 UTC
As long as your faction standings aren't too negative, they don't really matter much. especially since with good social skills it's difficult to get negative enough to be a problem. Instead, work for whichever standings align with your goals. Want mission agent access? Fleet up with someone working for the agent you want to work for until your standings with that agent are high enough to accept missions for yourself. Want standings with a specific corp? Find someone who can show you how to do COSMOS missions (don't attempt it on your own because you can permanently ruin them for yourself if you do them wrong.) Clarify what it is you want to do, then find the shortcuts to get there.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#14 - 2017-03-11 04:35:55 UTC
Treycore wrote:
I'm sitting at -1.91 or something with the caldari and after diplomacy takes effect it's 0.09 standing

still positive after skills, should be ezpz. just grind it out like any other standings.

with very high skills I'd go blitz lv4s for a corp with decent isk/lp and agent, a few combat story lines and done.

decent skills, I'd head to suroken and blitz caldari navy lv3s, get your standings up for jita. 3 agents in one station plus 3 storyline agents next door.

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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2017-03-11 04:43:18 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
mkint wrote:
As long as your faction standings aren't too negative, they don't really matter much. especially since with good social skills it's difficult to get negative enough to be a problem. Instead, work for whichever standings align with your goals. Want mission agent access? Fleet up with someone working for the Corp you want to work for until your standings with that Corp are high enough to accept missions for yourself. Want standings with a specific Faction? Find someone who can show you how to do COSMOS missions (don't attempt it on your own because you can permanently ruin them for yourself if you do them wrong.) Clarify what it is you want to do, then find the shortcuts to get there.

Overall I agree with your reply but needed to correct a few Points for the sake of accuracy.



DMC

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
mkint
#16 - 2017-03-11 05:03:47 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
mkint wrote:
As long as your faction standings aren't too negative, they don't really matter much. especially since with good social skills it's difficult to get negative enough to be a problem. Instead, work for whichever standings align with your goals. Want mission agent access? Fleet up with someone working for the Corp you want to work for until your standings with that Corp are high enough to accept missions for yourself. Want standings with a specific Faction? Find someone who can show you how to do COSMOS missions (don't attempt it on your own because you can permanently ruin them for yourself if you do them wrong.) Clarify what it is you want to do, then find the shortcuts to get there.

Overall I agree with your reply but needed to correct a few Points for the sake of accuracy.



DMC

No, I said what I meant. The fastest way to unlock a level 4 agent is to get standings directly with that specific agent. Agent access uses whatever standings are highest on the agent's standings tab, and direct standings with agent go up fastest. The fastest way to do that is to buddy along with someone while they mission for that agent. I've done it with a couple alts for multiboxing lvl 4's, as well as shortcutting corp mates into new mission hubs.

Same idea with corp... corp standings go up faster than faction. If you want those corp standings for reduced taxes and the like, COSMOS missions can get you there quickly. COSMOS agents each typically have a 3 mission arc or so, all 3 grant large amounts of corp standings, the 3rd grants faction as well. Each of the faction navies have at least 3 COSMOS agents, gal and min have more. I've also done this to help blitz standings for alts for refining rates and unlocking jump clones when that was a thing. I had gotten pretty good at it at one point.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2017-03-11 05:28:47 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
mkint wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
mkint wrote:
As long as your faction standings aren't too negative, they don't really matter much. especially since with good social skills it's difficult to get negative enough to be a problem. Instead, work for whichever standings align with your goals. Want mission agent access? Fleet up with someone working for the Corp you want to work for until your standings with that Corp are high enough to accept missions for yourself. Want standings with a specific Faction? Find someone who can show you how to do COSMOS missions (don't attempt it on your own because you can permanently ruin them for yourself if you do them wrong.) Clarify what it is you want to do, then find the shortcuts to get there.

Overall I agree with your reply but needed to correct a few Points for the sake of accuracy.



DMC

No, I said what I meant. The fastest way to unlock a level 4 agent is to get standings directly with that specific agent. Agent access uses whatever standings are highest on the agent's standings tab, and direct standings with agent go up fastest. The fastest way to do that is to buddy along with someone while they mission for that agent. I've done it with a couple alts for multiboxing lvl 4's, as well as shortcutting corp mates into new mission hubs.

Same idea with corp... corp standings go up faster than faction. If you want those corp standings for reduced taxes and the like, COSMOS missions can get you there quickly. COSMOS agents each typically have a 3 mission arc or so, all 3 grant large amounts of corp standings, the 3rd grants faction as well. Each of the faction navies have at least 3 COSMOS agents, gal and min have more. I've also done this to help blitz standings for alts for refining rates and unlocking jump clones when that was a thing. I had gotten pretty good at it at one point.

Sorry but I disagree.

First of all, it's much easier to find another player doing lv 4 missions for a specific Corp than to find one who's doing missions for a specific Agent. After building up Corp standings from running missions in Fleet, the player can then access the Agent he originally wanted.

Also Cosmos missions give way more Faction standing then Corp standing. That's what Cosmos is all about. After gaining the Faction standings, a player can then access any Agent of any Corp within that Faction.

I know for a fact that doing a few missions for Event Agents will gain access to level 4 Agents much faster than Fleeting up with another player who is doing regular level 4 missions.


DMC

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
mkint
#18 - 2017-03-11 05:58:35 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
mkint wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
mkint wrote:
As long as your faction standings aren't too negative, they don't really matter much. especially since with good social skills it's difficult to get negative enough to be a problem. Instead, work for whichever standings align with your goals. Want mission agent access? Fleet up with someone working for the Corp you want to work for until your standings with that Corp are high enough to accept missions for yourself. Want standings with a specific Faction? Find someone who can show you how to do COSMOS missions (don't attempt it on your own because you can permanently ruin them for yourself if you do them wrong.) Clarify what it is you want to do, then find the shortcuts to get there.

Overall I agree with your reply but needed to correct a few Points for the sake of accuracy.



DMC

No, I said what I meant. The fastest way to unlock a level 4 agent is to get standings directly with that specific agent. Agent access uses whatever standings are highest on the agent's standings tab, and direct standings with agent go up fastest. The fastest way to do that is to buddy along with someone while they mission for that agent. I've done it with a couple alts for multiboxing lvl 4's, as well as shortcutting corp mates into new mission hubs.

Same idea with corp... corp standings go up faster than faction. If you want those corp standings for reduced taxes and the like, COSMOS missions can get you there quickly. COSMOS agents each typically have a 3 mission arc or so, all 3 grant large amounts of corp standings, the 3rd grants faction as well. Each of the faction navies have at least 3 COSMOS agents, gal and min have more. I've also done this to help blitz standings for alts for refining rates and unlocking jump clones when that was a thing. I had gotten pretty good at it at one point.

Sorry but I disagree.

First of all, it's much easier to find another player doing lv 4 missions for a specific Corp than to find one who's doing missions for a specific Agent. After building up Corp standings from running missions in Fleet, the player can then access the Agent he originally wanted.

Also Cosmos missions give way more Faction standing then Corp standing. That's what Cosmos is all about. After gaining the Faction standings, a player can then access any Agent of any Corp within that Faction.

I know for a fact that doing a few missions for Event Agents will gain access to level 4 Agents much faster than Fleeting up with another player who is doing regular level 4 missions.


DMC

Both of those make sense in the long term, but in the short term, what I said stands. It's easy to find people working for a specific agent, because that's how players behave, they gather in mission hubs. If other players aren't working that agent, you probably don't want to be working that agent either, and even if you can't get the specific agent you want, you can get *some* agent, and that'll get you solo'ing as soon as possible even if you'd rather relocate eventually. As far as COSMOS, I guess I don't have my numbers any more, but they do provide a MUCH larger corp standings gains than normal mission agents. For fed navy and rep fleet both, you can get a lot of corp standings in about a dozen COSMOS missions, though you might have to do some normal missions to bridge the gaps between agent levels, which is where having access to a lvl 4 agent comes in handy. I've never done the caldari or amarr, so I can't speak to that, but I understand they are even more developed.

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Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#19 - 2017-03-11 10:56:39 UTC
Mkint has it right if you have an alt that can blitz for a particular agent. Did this approach years ago to unlock specific L4 agents for people without destroying faction standing which was important if you wanted to sell a toon with L4 available but with a relatively clean/neutral faction record. This way you could grind up a single or a few L4 agents from any faction to be available but you wouldnt have the horrible faction standing with any empire or pirate faction so you had the freedom to basically go run for whoever if you so wished.

Though I do the DMC way more these days it does work Mkints way as well. It just really depends on what you want it for in the end.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
#20 - 2017-03-11 15:10:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Algarion Getz
You can do level 1 distribution missions. The ISK and standing reward is very very low, but you can do them while you are AFK.

There are stations with 4 level 1 distribution agents, accept a mission from all of them, then use autopilot to travel from destination to destination. Repeat 4 times and get a faction mission which gives you a small Caldari standing increase.

Its a slow process, but it needs very little interaction. You can even do it at the office.^^ EVE on minimum settings runs surprisingly well on Intel HD grahics.
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