Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hi, so i'm wondering if you guys agree CCP should make the mining barge the Procurer an alpha ship but raise the price A LOT!
I like the Venture...but we need just ONE MORE ORE ship that is an Alpha ship. I hope all you pilots out there can agree with me (the ones whom love mining)

With mining 4 you can fit T2 mining lasers. Mining upgrades 4 lets you fit a T2 Mining laser upgrade and Mining frigate 4 gives you most of the hull bonus.

A maximum skill Alpha Venture really isn't that far behind a minimum skill Procurer. Factor in the speed with which the frigate can unload and you're probably close to 2/3 the yield.

Focus on an ore like Plagioclase that contains a decent amount of Mexallon and you can make a living Venture mining. Buy orders for compressed plagioclase are 6,866.59 ISK in Jita.

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Add some passive income activities like PI and you'll probably be in a position to PLEX the account before the subscription is up for renewal.

The price of the ship is based on the materials that go in to it plus whatever mark-up the market will bear. There is a way to get to use a mining barge with a huge price mark-up. You go buy a PLEX roughly 1 billion isk each month.

You know... on second thought I think the OP has a good idea....

We need a gold procurer. It can be bought for the price of a single plex, every month and it will be shiney golden in color. If you dont pay for it every month it wont be gold and its just a deal for alphas.

It should definitely be the Covertor

I still say the only thing we need is active moon mining with ventures and special new goo lasers. Where warping to 0 to a moon actually lands you near the surface of the moon to actively mine it from there as you float a few kms above the surface moving your ship around with the WASD keys and manually point your lasers at the surface hot spots while doing geological scans of the surrounding areas with an interface similar to dscan and looks like a PI overlay on the surface. The goo lasers nullify the ventures +2 warp stabs though so be careful. Then there are 5 different scan areas for gases, and the 4 R-type goos as there are 5 different laser crystals. You dont know which is there until you mine it, just that there are some of that type nearby. So you might get a few cobalt, a scandium and a bunch of tungsten but no titanium, then a fair but of tungsten, one titanium, and nothing else until the hot spot is either depleted entirely or you move on to better pastures and therefore isk/hr.

But all moons must NOT have the same goo types as the standard goo mining available, would make it to easy.

I am absolutely against giving alpha players access to more than they already can, but ESPECIALLY not mining barges! He abuse would begin immediately in hisec, good luck finding a backwater system that doesn't have 25 alpha clones stripping belts.

No.

It's not the alpha miners that have dropped prices... it's the massive influx of Rorquals

Raise the price a LOT? A LOT is multiplying the price, so we are talking about 30 to150 mio. ISK Procurers?

The point of the Procurer is that it has a good risk/profit ratio. If it was a LOT more expensive this would kill the ship's concept. There would be zero point in using a Procurer because it would go from "last ship to gank" to "first ship to gank". It is 75 times the price of a Venture already, make it 150+ times the price and everyone will tell you: "Don't use the Procurere, it is a trap."

If CCP would see the need to do more for mining Alphas (personaly I don't see it) the Venture is a great little ship) they would probably do something to make players work togther, like bringing back the Primae as a (limited?) "free for all" mining booster ship.

Just thinking, you could use the Gnosis for that, right? it get's a 25% bonus to links, that should work with mining links too. Anyone seen a Gnosis boosted fleet of Ventures out there? And it can fleet a set of Mining Drones too.