EVE General Discussion

Time is the ONLY thing that matters. Which makes me wonder WHY people spend so much time on something they have such a hard time with.

We are all eventually going to die, spending time on something that causes so much angst and frustration is the stupidest thing one can do with their finite time. Of course it's their time to waste, but damn it's a shame.

It's not usually the game that's causing the frustration. The human mind is remarkably quick to transfer feelings of rage to any available thing to get your blood pressure back down. As long as you do get it out, you'll feel better, no matter what the target is.

I agree.

The cause of their angst and frustration, is their own.

They have refused to learn, to adapt to, and understand the fact they, and they alone, are responsible for their own actions and repercussions in EVE.

They are victims of their own choices, no-one else's.

I play games for my whole life and there is one constant if you play with other people: There are always whiners.

The question is why do they whine. Is it like Salvos here says because they protect their RL persona into the game or is there some other reason? I don't buy that bs. Maybe he does, it seams he is very good ad convincing himself that his flawed arguments are somehow valid.

I think they are plain and simple bad gamers and they are really bad at EVE, maybe have some serious problem understanding the rules of the game mechanics or in some severe cases the whole concept. But there are people who just wont accept that the problem is with them and not with the game. So they invent some bs story about why it is the game or the other players or the toxic community that is to blame for their own underperformance.

To better see what I mean, take any FPS or RTS you like and get really good at it. Even with close friends you will soon see the ones who start to make excuses for their underperformance about how the game is ****, how the people who play it are toxic, how you are actually cheating and not playing fair.

Ive played games since I was 1, and Im now 36.

You are a perpetual whiner.
Look at your own post history.
If anything is said against your interests, you whine against it.

Whine, whine, whine against this and that is all you do.

You dont care about the facts, or the good of the game.
Just your own narrow selfish need.

The funniest part of this thread is reading about the gankers criticizing it when gankers are the first to join NPC corps with their bumping and scouting alts so they can't get wardec'ed and taken out. The only time you'll ever see them in a corporation or alliance in High-Sec is when they are playing on their suicide alts, because they aren't even be going to be staying on grid long enough for it to matter.

But it's OK for other groups to do the same thing for the same reasons?

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

There is, but that's not what I was referring to.

I was referring to the criticism of gankers for using NPC corps as an anti-wardec device, when other groups do it for the exact same reason.

I know, recognised and understood your NPC corp point.

However, that also feeds into my point above.
Gankers too can enjoy NPC corp un-wardeccability.
And since they earn their proceeds through loot off destroyed targets, the tax rate in NPC corps is irrelevant.

But what profit is there in ganking gankers?

At least, you invest the same as they invested, and receive some small pittance of their cheap modules in return.

Gank ships are inherently cheap targets, unlike the targets gankers prey upon.

There is very little/zero profit in ganking gank ships.

Surely you have to admit this?

Then find out where they live and and destroy some of their nicer things?