EVE General Discussion

Would u consider sex, work? LMFAO!

--Well, for many people, it is.
But they have no one to blame but themselves. For example in Eve the common consensus is that the 'right' way to play is to essentially remove any element of a 'game' from the game and reduce Eve to little more than a calculator with a graphics engine.

People wouldn't think to run a mission without first going to a 3rd party website to know every single ship and trigger. They single-tank and design a ship so that it's only use is grinding out the same content endlessly. Go to the forums to ask everyone else to give them the 'winning' ship fitting. Being as AFK as possible and still succeeding is considered the gold standard. They complain bitterly that anything interrupts their endless grinding, you know, like the 100,000 other players in an MMO engaging them.
Then many of these same people take to the forums and complain that PvE is boring.

You could probably count on one hand the number of people that play Eve with only a single character like I do. Almost universally alts are used to dodge game mechanics such as security status or being war dec'd. The exact mechanics that provide consequences for one's actions, and bring immersion to your character. But all that is just in the way of more grinding. People treat the consequences for their in-game actions as nothing but an impediment to their grinding exactly like they treat heavy traffic on the way to work IRL. Best avoided if at all possible so they can 'get to work'.

When the players do everything they can to remove any element of randomness, chance, or risk from a game- it's no one's fault but their own that it becomes work-like. When your goal isn't really fun, but rather just the accumulation of stuff, there becomes a need to continue in that accumulation- and so taking a break is akin to being unemployed. Many people find the break (from a game or from RL work) refreshing- but most recognize that they cannot get stuff in that state, and so feel an inescapable urge to go back. This is why halfway thru most vacations people begin to obsess about their vacation ending and having to go back to work.

I noticed this myself recently on a dive trip to Mexico. On the boat with people paying thousands of dollars to escape from the drudgery of work, most of their time was spent talking about work. The most common thing I heard wasn't how much they were enjoying paradise, but rather how quickly they were headed back to their boring life in a cubicle. Even spending thousands to get out of their cubicle, they were wholly unable to mentally leave the office.

Its all the microtransactions and DLC that puts me off.

I'm 58 and look forward to 62 when I can retire and spend more time in game. And I agree, some online games are great time sinks. Eve does make you work at it. It is fun, but I can only spend a couple of hours at a time on it. Just too intense, especially after a full workday wracking my brain as a trained office monkey.

BTW, I've been playing since 2008 and I have taken many breaks. I come back to it without fail. Longest break was about 6 months while I had a long period where work took over my life....again.

If you want to stay with Eve, I suggest you get used to an on-off-on relationship as I have. Your mileage will vary, but unsubscribing now only reduces you to Alpha status, so no harm no foul.

And a good corp. I need one badly. Never got the social bug, but this game is pretty tedious without flying with someone from time to time.

BTW, at 71, you're not to old to go to Iceland some April. Yeah, you'll be there with old grey hairs like me, and the kids will hold the door for you and call you Mister and Sir, but whats the worst that could happen?

Sometimes

Only my complaints matter!

Out of interest, once, i spent a year gently asking everyone i could what they would do if they didn't have to work for a living.
I say gently, because so many people derive their sense of self and worth from what they do to pay the bills.
"My father worked right up until a few weeks before he died." used to be a very common story, because people faced with retirement (freedom) very often get extremely stressed and directionless, in need of counselling.
Taking that mindset into an environment where you can do what you want isn't helpful.

OP post is kinda silly, but any thread can turn into rewarding insight or laughs.

I've noticed the same thing. I've got buddies that work for other Departments that I no longer go on vacation with, because all they talk about is work or some work realted situation that had to deal with.

Hell, as soon as I'm off the clock I go home , peel off this garbage bag ..I mean uniform and forget about the job for the next 16 hours or so.

It's like that in game, you see people bring their out of game baggage to the game and to voice comms all the time. Gets on my nerves TBH.