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Is CVA the only alliance who operate NRDS??

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Punctator
Blackwater Task Forces
Goonswarm Federation
#21 - 2017-02-19 00:51:10 UTC
CVA space is most fun in eve, just create corp and be loyal to nrds rules long and gain blue standings or join some blue corp. They never tell you what you must do, you will decide it by youself, and create your own history and it is great.
Comparing NBSI and NRDS gameplay is like comparing Africa vs Europe in aspects of freedom and fun.
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
#22 - 2017-02-19 01:00:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Punctator wrote:
Comparing NBSI and NRDS gameplay is like comparing Africa vs Europe in aspects of freedom and fun.

Freedom and fun are a bit subjective.

If shooting is what you find fun, NBSI is a tonne of freedom and fun, the fewer blues you have.

At the same time, NRDS can be fun, just by increasing the number of red standings.
Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
Brave Collective
#23 - 2017-02-19 01:12:04 UTC
Confirming CVA/Provibloc as the only sov null entity to run NRDS and to drop intel in local.


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Oleria Risalo
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2017-02-19 01:59:06 UTC
To my knowledge, my home of Providence is the only NRDS out there.
Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2017-02-19 04:03:02 UTC
NPSI is for carebear pacifistic weenies. Not me shoot it, is more in line with the philosophy of EvE.

Unless of course you're man enough to mwd into your own bombs. Kill everything is how real men play.

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy

Lucius Avenus
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#26 - 2017-02-19 08:23:13 UTC
Quite a few people seem to have left Provi over the time I've been there (some taking a break irl), and then they come back - so I never bothered leaving, which I've considered a couple times. But Provi does seem like a unique place, a battlefield of some tradition for the most honourable exchanging of the Fiskies (good fights). And the bitter vets, especially when you f*#% up, so endearing, you could cry after a good smack.

Don't go bro! o7
Akane Togenada
Doomheim
#27 - 2017-02-19 10:38:46 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Not sov-holding that I know of, but Signal Cartel is NRDS I believe.


Actually the Signal Credo clearly states that we never attack any other players unless being attacked first, all other players are considered neutrals by default. The neutrality even extends to indirect actions such as providing intelligence for other corps/players.

I'm not sure what acronym could be used to describe the Credo but there you have it.
Iceinio Man-Ar-Kell
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2017-02-23 13:30:33 UTC
Akane Togenada wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Not sov-holding that I know of, but Signal Cartel is NRDS I believe.


Actually the Signal Credo clearly states that we never attack any other players unless being attacked first, all other players are considered neutrals by default. The neutrality even extends to indirect actions such as providing intelligence for other corps/players.

I'm not sure what acronym could be used to describe the Credo but there you have it.



I`m thinking Signal Cartel shoud get something like: "SOIA" (Shot only if atacked)...

Any way...

All Proviblock is NRDS. Sometimes very painfull. But it helps new players that want to start in Null..

All Alliance in Provi are NRDS if im right - so CVA, TSOE, MENTL, G-F-A, AFK APOC and others...
Brynjard
Meaal Contractors
#29 - 2017-03-05 10:03:54 UTC
Yes that's right!
Every alliance in the CVA coalition has NRDS policy.
The region is all of Providence + some part of Catch. = Provi block.

When it commes to what is best and not to maintain; it depends on how you look at it.

If you think every neut is looking for a easy gank, you'll have challanges playing in NRDS space.
If you think some neuts are looking for a easy gank, and som are just trying out null sec. You'll be fine. As long as you use your head.

Being said, if you know what you are doing in Null, you'll be safer than High sec. Even if it's NRDS.

Cool
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
CODE.
#30 - 2017-03-05 10:35:24 UTC
BTW, the reason CVA bans carrier/dread ratting in Provi is that it draws....or used to, anyway......hot drops from PL/CFC/Russians etc.

With the new jump fatigue rules, not so sure anymore, but they are unlikely to change it.

Non-CVA caps in their space also make them nervous as hell, with good reason.

Dunno if they care if you rat in a Force Aux, tho.

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And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

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Tigris Liono
Konrakas Forged
Evictus.
#31 - 2017-03-05 15:20:26 UTC
There are no caps in Provi
Gecko Hareka
Old American Syndicate
A Class Apart
#32 - 2017-03-05 16:27:11 UTC
...as far as I know there are various small NRDS groups ("EVE in Hard Mode") in all parts of 0.0. Look for Corp adds in your region, they more often then not post their rules of engagement, too, e.g.

https://www.reddit.com/r/evejobs/comments/4f5jqi/silent_reckoning_slntr_forming_for_nrds_in_the/


If you want to know more about the background of NRDS, you are in luck, as I dug out my old articles as part of my

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CSM 12 campaign [ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6832259 ].

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Anyway - go vote!


Here you can get some background info, if you are interested in setting up a NRDS corp yourself:

The mysterious workings of ProviBloc 01
http://evenews24.com/2014/05/12/readers-pieces-the-mysterious-workings-of-provibloc/

The Mysterious Workings of Provibloc 02 – Redux
http://evenews24.com/2014/05/18/submission-the-mysterious-workings-of-provibloc-part-2/

Infos on rules of engagement:
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Rules_of_Engagement#Rules_of_Engagement

Old stuff on NRDS (2010): Aralis on NRDS – an EVE-Uni lecture
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/w/images/3/39/E-UNI_Guest_Lecture_Aralis_CVA_and_NRDS.mp3

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
#33 - 2017-03-05 17:13:22 UTC
If NRDS is a pain to maintain, then it represents an opportunity for CCP to improve the game. For example, CCP could add this check box in the corporation/alliance management interface:

"Unprovoked aggression against a member of the corporation/alliance automatically results in the corporation/alliance standings of the offending pilot being set to -10."

"Unprovoked aggression" is defined as an act that would, in high sec, result in a CONCORD response.

EVE is a game of making decisions, and living with the consequences of those decisions. Its not about painful busy-work of maintaining lists.

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Ashlar Maidstone
MoonFyre BattleGroup Holdings
#34 - 2017-03-05 18:18:13 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Not sov-holding that I know of, but Signal Cartel is NRDS I believe.


We are a neutral corp but ProviBloc does recognize us as friends.
Circumstantial Evidence
#35 - 2017-03-05 20:07:08 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
If NRDS is a pain to maintain, then it represents an opportunity for CCP to improve the game. For example, CCP could add this check box in the corporation/alliance management interface:

"Unprovoked aggression against a member of the corporation/alliance automatically results in the corporation/alliance standings of the offending pilot being set to -10."

"Unprovoked aggression" is defined as an act that would, in high sec, result in a CONCORD response.

EVE is a game of making decisions, and living with the consequences of those decisions. Its not about painful busy-work of maintaining lists.
I think your first and last lines are fantastic, but the proposal probably could not happen: it would require enabling crimewatch in nullsec, to determine that "unprovoked aggression" occurred - (and then 'update contact to -10' as opposed to 'summon CONCORD') a performance hit in large battles. NRDS would want even more than this: keep the combat log entry of the first aggressive action with the contact details, in case leadership has questions later.

Even without automatic features, every contact standings change should offer a text Note field, and keep a log of when/who made the change, even if the note field is left blank.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2017-03-06 06:22:32 UTC
Tisiphone Dira wrote:
NPSI is for carebear pacifistic weenies. Not me shoot it, is more in line with the philosophy of EvE.

Unless of course you're man enough to mwd into your own bombs. Kill everything is how real men play.

You are not mistaken 'real men' and preprogrammed NPC entities (so-called 'rats')? Blink

AFAIK 'real men' usually have more freedom in choosing than simple rule.

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Momiji Sakora
Omni Galactic
Central Omni Galactic Group
#37 - 2017-03-06 11:40:46 UTC
Ashlar Maidstone wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Not sov-holding that I know of, but Signal Cartel is NRDS I believe.


We are a neutral corp but ProviBloc does recognize us as friends.


I can't speak for Provibloc as a whole, but COGG recognize Signal Cartel as friends, we'll give you a cheery wave and help you guys out if we can :)
Kentonio
THE DISC
#38 - 2017-03-07 00:04:02 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Its not about painful busy-work of maintaining lists.


Are you sure we're talking about the same EVE? What?
Fardendur
Knight Odds
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#39 - 2017-03-10 08:37:25 UTC
Mike Adoulin wrote:
BTW, the reason CVA bans carrier/dread ratting in Provi is that it draws....or used to, anyway......hot drops from PL/CFC/Russians etc.

With the new jump fatigue rules, not so sure anymore, but they are unlikely to change it.

Non-CVA caps in their space also make them nervous as hell, with good reason.

Dunno if they care if you rat in a Force Aux, tho.



Kek the litle u know :)

We have no problems with with caps cos we don't have any (we ACTUALY rent them from Rus Rus )
Pavlakakos
W.A.S.P
Sons of Sylph
#40 - 2017-03-10 10:00:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Pavlakakos
Fardendur wrote:

We have no problems with with caps cos we don't have any


Fard, stop lying to the masses. Every providude has a cap at home....

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