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BREAKING: Ishukone CEO Derided At CEP Session

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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#101 - 2017-03-04 15:55:01 UTC
Agiri Falken wrote:
Dismissed. One less who will be bothering with your half-breed ass.


He's a ... oh.

Well, one more data point for the "we either leave the State or quadruple down on being more ostentatiously Caldari than the next sapient being" hypothesis.

Or just disappear into the background and get really kind of hard to spot for purposes of this unscientific examination because we're too busy being hard to spot for any purpose that would call attention to such a detail.
Diana Kim
Kenshin Katana.
United Caldari Space Command.
#102 - 2017-03-04 15:56:11 UTC
Agiri Falken wrote:

Leemee know when you've finished CBRN 101, Horn. Then I'll take you semi-seriously.

The fact that this boils down to politics to you from word go tells me you really need to brush up on what the threat actually is.

And Kim, try to remember the answer this time; I was serving while you were a kid, both corpmil and Navy, so stow the superiority complex, and start checking profiles before smarting off. If you did, you'd know what I am, and what I do. The fact is, while you were busy having a heart attack on a sparring mat in front of Saissore's saber, and getting the hell beat out of you for your mouth running up checks your ass had to cash later, I was pulling ops you don't even have the clearance to look up, or the skillset to think about touching.

I was also there, with your hero, on Cal Prime.

Dismissed. One less who will be bothering with your half-breed ass.

It's pretty sad that someone claiming to be from the Navy didn't understand what do AWM do. Or you show how much envy you are to our superior training and equipment that you had no chance to touch, eh? Or maybe with missions who were trusted only to AWM and you only dreamed about getting on one of them? Did they left you behind because of your poor performance, or you wouldn't even get to normal marines?

And trust me, as AWM we got way better CBRN training than any of you silly gropos ever hoped for. Now you, dismissed, and go back to catching your pocket thieves.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#103 - 2017-03-04 15:58:42 UTC
So, frothing aside, let's get down to the importance of Caldari Liberal multilateralism.

With the Society's recent announcement, that Ishukone has already made overt steps toward cooperative action means it will be a valued and valuable contributor to a multilateral push on Kyonoke, potentially yielding significant dividends on both research and investigation, which may potentially be greater than research achieved alone. The potential access to research findings, to intelligence gathered, and so on will be invaluable.

Why, it's almost as if Reppola-haan's stance has been vindicated already.

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Diana Kim
Kenshin Katana.
United Caldari Space Command.
#104 - 2017-03-04 16:07:58 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
So, frothing aside, let's get down to the importance of Caldari Liberal multilateralism.

With the Society's recent announcement, that Ishukone has already made overt steps toward cooperative action means it will be a valued and valuable contributor to a multilateral push on Kyonoke, potentially yielding significant dividends on both research and investigation, which may potentially be greater than research achieved alone. The potential access to research findings, to intelligence gathered, and so on will be invaluable.

Why, it's almost as if Reppola-haan's stance has been vindicated already.

That's SOCT initiative, and neither traitor Reppola, nor Ishukone has nothing to do with it.
Reppola is only a stain on a reputation of the State, trying to commit another treason. He is a man who turned almost leading Megacorporation into Black Sheep of the State. Once Ishukone was proud and honorable corporation, but after Gallente started new war with us, they turned themselves into the greatest disgrace of our glorious State.

Shame to Ishukone.
Shame to Reppola.

And of course shame to you, liar Makoto.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#105 - 2017-03-04 16:22:19 UTC
Sooo.

An interstellar inquest with participation of all CONCORD signatory states... won't involve Ishukone at all? Is that what you're saying?

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Agiri Falken
Akagi Initiative
#106 - 2017-03-04 16:59:54 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Agiri Falken wrote:
Dismissed. One less who will be bothering with your half-breed ass.


He's a ... oh.

Well, one more data point for the "we either leave the State or quadruple down on being more ostentatiously Caldari than the next sapient being" hypothesis.

Or just disappear into the background and get really kind of hard to spot for purposes of this unscientific examination because we're too busy being hard to spot for any purpose that would call attention to such a detail.

Nah, just being obvious with the obvious. Public record is public record.

I would like to say, though, I always like hearing your thoughts. An earnest mind with a composed demeanor is something I appreciate, even if I just don't have the tolerance to be the same.
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#107 - 2017-03-04 18:11:38 UTC
It does not seem as if Elder Raish is offering the Nations of New Eden the option of helping as much as making the choice on their behalf.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#108 - 2017-03-04 18:18:57 UTC
Ayallah wrote:
It does not seem as if Elder Raish is offering the Nations of New Eden the option of helping as much as making the choice on their behalf.


Doesn't it though?

Things may not be as altruistic as it may seems.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#109 - 2017-03-04 18:28:47 UTC
Casserina Leshrac wrote:
Ayallah wrote:
It does not seem as if Elder Raish is offering the Nations of New Eden the option of helping as much as making the choice on their behalf.


Doesn't it though?

Things may not be as altruistic as it may seems.



If only someone had pointed this out earlier.


Oh...wait...


"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#110 - 2017-03-04 18:32:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
You're paranoid, the three of you.

Sometimes, an inquest is just an inquest.

There's no angle.

There's no gun held to your head.

It's an invitation for a joint venture to deal with what remains a major crisis.

ADDITION: You know, there was a pithy little saying my father had. "If you look behind the door, you've hidden there before." Your statements say rather more about you than the situation.

Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?

Diana Kim
Kenshin Katana.
United Caldari Space Command.
#111 - 2017-03-04 21:25:19 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Sooo.

An interstellar inquest with participation of all CONCORD signatory states... won't involve Ishukone at all? Is that what you're saying?

Correct.

Ishukone is just a minor corporation inside Caldari State. Moreover, since YC110 Ishukone by its actions has lost its privilege to position itself as a regular State megacorporation and can't represent Caldari people.

In our State responsibility for dealing with foreign powers belongs to CEP alone, and not to individual corporations. While megacorporations have full power to govern their own territories independently and represent the highest authority in their own parts of space, on the diplomatic arena the highest authority belongs to CEP.

Ishukone corporation though owns about 1/8 of the CEP, that puts it at odds 1:7 against the whole State, and taking into account loss of popularity of Ishukone after its treacherous decisions and distancing from the rest of State corporations after the start of the War, these odds might be even lower for Ishukone.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#112 - 2017-03-04 21:28:37 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
You're paranoid, the three of you.

Sometimes, an inquest is just an inquest.

There's no angle.

There's no gun held to your head.

It's an invitation for a joint venture to deal with what remains a major crisis.

ADDITION: You know, there was a pithy little saying my father had. "If you look behind the door, you've hidden there before." Your statements say rather more about you than the situation.


And that's the point.

It took a crisis, one that threatens all the Empires to suddenly work together.

In certain circles that could been as a criminal conspiracy.

I am happy to be proven worng.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#113 - 2017-03-04 21:59:22 UTC
Casserina Leshrac wrote:
And that's the point.

It took a crisis, one that threatens all the Empires to suddenly work together.

In certain circles that could been as a criminal conspiracy.

I am happy to be proven worng.


The difficulty of proving negatives is a typical conundrum of dealing with conspiracy theories, Ms. Leshrac.

Mind, there's definitely someone at work here-- a criminal conspiracy, it even seems fair to say. Just, exactly who it is, or was, remains to be seen.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#114 - 2017-03-04 22:41:12 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
The difficulty of proving negatives is a typical conundrum of dealing with conspiracy theories, Ms. Leshrac.

Mind, there's definitely someone at work here-- a criminal conspiracy, it even seems fair to say. Just, exactly who it is, or was, remains to be seen.


Sadly we are still where started on this.

The suspect list for most conspiracy theories has not changed since Muttokon.

All anyone can agree upon is that this was an attack.


We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Shiran Mazaki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#115 - 2017-03-05 01:10:21 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Correct.

Ishukone is just a minor corporation inside Caldari State. Moreover, since YC110 Ishukone by its actions has lost its privilege to position itself as a regular State megacorporation and can't represent Caldari people.


You know there are proper news outlets that you could and should be watching. Rather then making up your own stories in your head.
TomHorn
Horn Brothers Holdings Inc.
#116 - 2017-03-05 01:13:56 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Makoto Priano wrote:
Sooo.

An interstellar inquest with participation of all CONCORD signatory states... won't involve Ishukone at all? Is that what you're saying?

Correct.

Ishukone is just a minor corporation inside Caldari State. Moreover, since YC110 Ishukone by its actions has lost its privilege to position itself as a regular State megacorporation and can't represent Caldari people.

In our State responsibility for dealing with foreign powers belongs to CEP alone, and not to individual corporations. While megacorporations have full power to govern their own territories independently and represent the highest authority in their own parts of space, on the diplomatic arena the highest authority belongs to CEP.

Ishukone corporation though owns about 1/8 of the CEP, that puts it at odds 1:7 against the whole State, and taking into account loss of popularity of Ishukone after its treacherous decisions and distancing from the rest of State corporations after the start of the War, these odds might be even lower for Ishukone.


Correct, Priano Hanni.

As the chief executive of IkAME , you need to cease assisting in all operations concerning the Kyonoke pathogen outside of Caldari borders. Will you confirm you will be standing down any and all operations , regarding the Kyonoke pathogen outside Caldari borders, so we know you are inline with CEP directives.

The CEP , the meritocracy , the best of us, the will of the Caldari people , have made it quite clear, Caldari resources are to be used within Caldari borders, concerning the Kyonoke pathogen.

The State is quite capable of dealing with this situation on its own. We have been used to living with this pathogen within Caldari borders. Now instead of one place there are two places, that need to be secured locked down and quarantined off. If no one had deliberately tried to breach the pit, there would be no crisis. Security has to be stepped up , made 100 percent secure that no future breaches can occur.

As long as there are no further outbreaks and the pathogen is contained in these two areas, and that is still matter of waiting and seeing, nothing else needs to be done. Apart from our R&D teams to continue to research the pathogen.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#117 - 2017-03-05 02:23:54 UTC
Horn, you are in position to issue neither demands nor orders. What's more, you do so from a factually false basis. The CEP has issued no such statement on corporate activity, and indeed even attempting to restrain the independence of a megacorporation would be unthinkable. Consider that after the Shiigeru's fall, Ishukone was given wide latitude in its actions despite Heth-guri railing against Reppola's Liberal approach to the crisis.

Kim, 'minor'? Ishukone holds a seat on the Chief Executive Panel. You are minor. I am minor. Reppola-haan, however, is chief executive of a Big Eight corporation, and thus one of the eight most powerful citizens in the State. Your opinion on Ishukone's status is of less value than the air you wasted to speak it.

I should add that about a dozen ARC-affiliated Capsuleers, with assorted Baseliner staff, have already sorted travel arrangements for the inquest, with perhaps half attending as part of the Zainou delegation.

While you two bleat, we'll be contributing.

Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?

TomHorn
Horn Brothers Holdings Inc.
#118 - 2017-03-05 03:49:38 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Horn, you are in position to issue neither demands nor orders. What's more, you do so from a factually false basis. The CEP has issued no such statement on corporate activity, and indeed even attempting to restrain the independence of a megacorporation would be unthinkable. Consider that after the Shiigeru's fall, Ishukone was given wide latitude in its actions despite Heth-guri railing against Reppola's Liberal approach to the crisis.

Kim, 'minor'? Ishukone holds a seat on the Chief Executive Panel. You are minor. I am minor. Reppola-haan, however, is chief executive of a Big Eight corporation, and thus one of the eight most powerful citizens in the State. Your opinion on Ishukone's status is of less value than the air you wasted to speak it.

I should add that about a dozen ARC-affiliated Capsuleers, with assorted Baseliner staff, have already sorted travel arrangements for the inquest, with perhaps half attending as part of the Zainou delegation.

While you two bleat, we'll be contributing.



Priano Haani , that depends on how you interpret what was said with the recent meeting of the big 8. Maybe no such direct orders were given on corporation activity. It certainly was expressed the way they expect the big 8 and Caldari corporations should conduct themselves.

Very strong words indeed were expressed by some, regarding the use of Caldari resources , by outside sources, regarding the Kyonoke pathogen.

Dragonaurs will not be contributing, it is military organisation currently running combat contracts for Caldari corporations. My corporations have no scientific expertise, the best thing i can do to help is keep out of the quarantined zones , let the experts get on with containing the situation. Ill be in touch with Holliday , and he will arrange for HBROS to forward some supplies for the on going response within the Caldari borders.

Its about contributing in the correct way Priano Haani. Mens Reppola needs to be careful about his arrogance, thinking he knows better than the meritocracy.


Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#119 - 2017-03-05 03:58:31 UTC
I never implied that there was any guns or threat. Just that he was saying it was happening long before all the nations had agreed they would assist each other.

It is stance a leader would take and it is interesting to see the SoCT taking up that mantle.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#120 - 2017-03-05 04:39:03 UTC
Again, Horn, you are mistaken.

The CEO of Lai Dai, who so flagrantly out of order that Kossinen-haan broke his gavel trying to intervene, disagreed.

That is not unanimity. That is not consensus.

That is one person speaking so far out of turn, and stepping so far beyond norms of behavior, that she behaved shamefully.

You speak of arrogance?

It's Ishanoya attempting to order another megacorporation to go against its shareholders' and workers' will. It's you attempting to argue that a single noisy party has any right to control the actions of another.

That is not our way.

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