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High Sec Ganking - CONCORD Balance request

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Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#1081 - 2017-03-02 14:05:42 UTC
Hey Erich

Do you still think people agree with you? Because all I see is people wrecking you hahahaha
And like Ima said, all these pages for a lack of a permit Roll

Gotta love carebears

P.s. no one in Black Rise cares who you are, and no one cares about your twitch either Lol

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Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC
Seventh Sanctum.
#1082 - 2017-03-02 14:08:14 UTC
baltec1 wrote:


If its easy to multibox 11 accounts then how is it hard to have a webbing alt with the freighter?



Well i'm not a pussy to abuse a game mechanic (webbing a freighter is using a game mechanic for your favor - as it's an exploit)

Problem is still a Gangers which got at last NO enough punishment for their crimes;

And hello Code'y Guy - I'm not a miner ; ) and even if I would refuse something that stupid like "mining permit" ;]
Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC
Seventh Sanctum.
#1083 - 2017-03-02 14:09:36 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Hey Erich

Do you still think people agree with you? Because all I see is people wrecking you hahahaha
And like Ima said, all these pages for a lack of a permit Roll

Gotta love carebears

P.s. no one in Black Rise cares who you are, and no one cares about your twitch either Lol


I love when a butthead trying to speach for "others";
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#1084 - 2017-03-02 14:11:12 UTC
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
baltec1 wrote:


If its easy to multibox 11 accounts then how is it hard to have a webbing alt with the freighter?



Well i'm not a pussy to abuse a game mechanic (webbing a freighter is using a game mechanic for your favor - as it's an exploit)

Problem is still a Gangers which got at last NO enough punishment for their crimes;

And hello Code'y Guy - I'm not a miner ; ) and even if I would refuse something that stupid like "mining permit" ;]

Since when is webbing an exploit?! Hahahahah
Does that mean every pvp'er ever is exploiting the game?

And definitely a miner if you say you aren't....
So miner, calm down Cool

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

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Wander Prian
Nosferatu Security Foundation
#1085 - 2017-03-02 14:12:25 UTC
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
baltec1 wrote:


If its easy to multibox 11 accounts then how is it hard to have a webbing alt with the freighter?



Well i'm not a pussy to abuse a game mechanic (webbing a freighter is using a game mechanic for your favor - as it's an exploit)

Problem is still a Gangers which got at last NO enough punishment for their crimes;

And hello Code'y Guy - I'm not a miner ; ) and even if I would refuse something that stupid like "mining permit" ;]


Webbing a ship so it can warp faster is neither a abusing a game mechanic nor an exploit. It is a perfectly viable tactic.

Wormholer for life.

Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC
Seventh Sanctum.
#1086 - 2017-03-02 14:12:59 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
baltec1 wrote:


If its easy to multibox 11 accounts then how is it hard to have a webbing alt with the freighter?



Well i'm not a pussy to abuse a game mechanic (webbing a freighter is using a game mechanic for your favor - as it's an exploit)

Problem is still a Gangers which got at last NO enough punishment for their crimes;

And hello Code'y Guy - I'm not a miner ; ) and even if I would refuse something that stupid like "mining permit" ;]

Since when is webbing an exploit?! Hahahahah
Does that mean every pvp'er ever is exploiting the game?

And definitely a miner if you say you aren't....
So miner, calm down Cool


I see another piece of Wood came here so his "friend" can feel an e-peen growing; blocked :)
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#1087 - 2017-03-02 14:13:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
baltec1 wrote:


If its easy to multibox 11 accounts then how is it hard to have a webbing alt with the freighter?



Well i'm not a pussy to abuse a game mechanic (webbing a freighter is using a game mechanic for your favor - as it's an exploit)

Problem is still a Gangers which got at last NO enough punishment for their crimes;

And hello Code'y Guy - I'm not a miner ; ) and even if I would refuse something that stupid like "mining permit" ;]
You have no idea what an exploit is, do you?

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack

Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC
Seventh Sanctum.
#1088 - 2017-03-02 14:14:58 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
baltec1 wrote:


If its easy to multibox 11 accounts then how is it hard to have a webbing alt with the freighter?



Well i'm not a pussy to abuse a game mechanic (webbing a freighter is using a game mechanic for your favor - as it's an exploit)

Problem is still a Gangers which got at last NO enough punishment for their crimes;

And hello Code'y Guy - I'm not a miner ; ) and even if I would refuse something that stupid like "mining permit" ;]
You have no idea what an exploit is do you?


Show me a statment of CCP that say
"We designed a WEB so you can WEB a freighter with your ALT so it can get in WARP faster"
- if not then it's an exploit of the game mechanic;
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#1089 - 2017-03-02 14:15:50 UTC
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
baltec1 wrote:


If its easy to multibox 11 accounts then how is it hard to have a webbing alt with the freighter?



Well i'm not a pussy to abuse a game mechanic (webbing a freighter is using a game mechanic for your favor - as it's an exploit)

Problem is still a Gangers which got at last NO enough punishment for their crimes;

And hello Code'y Guy - I'm not a miner ; ) and even if I would refuse something that stupid like "mining permit" ;]

Since when is webbing an exploit?! Hahahahah
Does that mean every pvp'er ever is exploiting the game?

And definitely a miner if you say you aren't....
So miner, calm down Cool


I see another piece of Wood came here so his "friend" can feel an e-peen growing; blocked :)

That's the easiest "block" I've managed to get hahahahah
These guys are so easily triggered

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#1090 - 2017-03-02 14:24:37 UTC
Naye Nathaniel wrote:


Well i'm not a pussy to abuse a game mechanic (webbing a freighter is using a game mechanic for your favor - as it's an exploit)


Using webs is now an exploit? Citation required.
Naye Nathaniel wrote:

Problem is still a Gangers which got at last NO enough punishment for their crimes;


I posted a list of all of the punishments and risks gankers face, ignoring it will not make it go away.

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#1091 - 2017-03-02 14:29:32 UTC
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
Show me a statment of CCP that say
"We designed a WEB so you can WEB a freighter with your ALT so it can get in WARP faster"
- if not then it's an exploit of the game mechanic;
If it's not listed on the Known & Declared Exploits page, it's not an exploit.

Unintended, but not forbidden, use of game mechanics is classed as emergent gameplay, and CCP are big fans of it.

Are you still telling people that normal gameplay may be against the EULA because you misunderstood a section of it?

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#1092 - 2017-03-02 14:52:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Ima Wreckyou
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
Well i'm not a pussy to abuse a game mechanic (webbing a freighter is using a game mechanic for your favor - as it's an exploit)


here are two different types of behaviour in this game:

1) Clever use of existing game mechanics in a new and unintended way which makes you perform better in certain situations
2) Crying on the forums for CCPs help, because you fail even with the obvious game mechanics

which one makes you a "pussy"? Let's vote
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#1093 - 2017-03-02 14:56:28 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
Well i'm not a pussy to abuse a game mechanic (webbing a freighter is using a game mechanic for your favor - as it's an exploit)


here are two different types of behaviour in this game:

1) Clever use of existing game mechanics in a new and unintended way which makes you perform better in certain situations
2) Crying on the forums for CCPs help

which one makes you a "pussy"? Let's vote

Definitely #1

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome

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Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC
Seventh Sanctum.
#1094 - 2017-03-02 15:20:35 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
Well i'm not a pussy to abuse a game mechanic (webbing a freighter is using a game mechanic for your favor - as it's an exploit)


here are two different types of behaviour in this game:

1) Clever use of existing game mechanics in a new and unintended way which makes you perform better in certain situations
2) Crying on the forums for CCPs help, because you fail even with the obvious game mechanics

which one makes you a "pussy"? Let's vote


"Clever" use a game mechanic which is not designed to be used in such a way is not "clever" move but it's not allowed move ingame as far as owner of the game didnt say it is;

And btw - go back to topic which is;

"Clever gangers" should "feel" pain of ganging others in high sec than just ticklings...
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1095 - 2017-03-02 15:47:50 UTC
Naye Nathaniel wrote:

Well i'm not a pussy to abuse a game mechanic (webbing a freighter is using a game mechanic for your favor - as it's an exploit)


I personally don't like how the web slingshot warp works but I'm not ridiculous enough to call it an exploit.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1096 - 2017-03-02 15:56:02 UTC
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
Well i'm not a pussy to abuse a game mechanic (webbing a freighter is using a game mechanic for your favor - as it's an exploit)


here are two different types of behaviour in this game:

1) Clever use of existing game mechanics in a new and unintended way which makes you perform better in certain situations
2) Crying on the forums for CCPs help, because you fail even with the obvious game mechanics

which one makes you a "pussy"? Let's vote


"Clever" use a game mechanic which is not designed to be used in such a way is not "clever" move but it's not allowed move ingame as far as owner of the game didnt say it is;


Wrong.

In this sandbox game, a move is allowed until the governing entity state otherwise. In this case, until CCP either change the mechanic to make web warping impossible or at least state that it is unintended and against the game rules, it is perfectly legitimate to use. This has been the way they handled any similar cases before. POS bowling for example was technically allowed until it was stated as illegal by CCP.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#1097 - 2017-03-02 16:12:17 UTC
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
"Clever gangers" should "feel" pain of ganging others in high sec than just ticklings...

I bet you can't even list the current game mechanics behind ganking
Hiasa Kite
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1098 - 2017-03-02 16:32:31 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
"Clever gangers" should "feel" pain of ganging others in high sec than just ticklings...

I bet you can't even list the current game mechanics behind ganking

Is that really a bet? It's part of the definition of carebear to be utterly clueless about game mechanics isn't it.

May as well bet if the sky is blue.

"Playing an MMO by yourself is like masturbating in the middle of an orgy." -Jonah Gravenstein

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#1099 - 2017-03-02 17:28:34 UTC
Hiasa Kite wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
"Clever gangers" should "feel" pain of ganging others in high sec than just ticklings...

I bet you can't even list the current game mechanics behind ganking

Is that really a bet? It's part of the definition of carebear to be utterly clueless about game mechanics isn't it.

May as well bet if the sky is blue.


I have pointed them out to him several times but he still keeps on saying it
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#1100 - 2017-03-02 17:36:11 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Hiasa Kite wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
"Clever gangers" should "feel" pain of ganging others in high sec than just ticklings...

I bet you can't even list the current game mechanics behind ganking

Is that really a bet? It's part of the definition of carebear to be utterly clueless about game mechanics isn't it.

May as well bet if the sky is blue.


I have pointed them out to him several times but he still keeps on saying it

It's called the Backfire Effect.
The more you prove them wrong, the more they believe they're right
(It's an actual thing)

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

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