EVE General Discussion

No, that is not what I am saying at all.

Furthermore, the difficulty and time required to gather the resources to build them, and a limit to how many can exist at any given time, would balance out whatever amount of firepower CCP would decide to give such a vessel


The Iapetans exist in a very limited number among the four Empires already, so putting a hard number limit on how may Iapetans can exist at anyone time would ensure that the Capitals not lose their positions and existing roles in alliances.

They would function as Aces-in-the-hole, not replace the roles of existing Capitals.

Unless you are an alt, you have not been in the game that long, so I don't think you have as good a grasp on Capitals as you might think. Any well organized fleet able to concentrate their fire-power can melt any regular Capital, or even a Super-Capital. It happens all the time in Null-Sec.

An Iapetan Titan, on the other hand, would be able to present a far bigger challenge to take down. And isn't that what EVE is about?

High risk, high reward.

The easiest way to make it interesting is give one to each FW militia as the final warzone control. If total warzone control is achieved the titan of both factions goes permanently vulnerable. Victory is achieved by "destroying" the opposing titan and a successful defense is achieved by destroying the warzone controllers titan. Both must be done in the opponents own high sec given a limited FW NPC response; decreasing per timer with the first being a hard floor on the force and dps needed, while the secondary and tertiary timers are very limited as "defense forces" scatter and are left up to the FW militia members.

Updated permanent killmarks for each successful destruction of the titan on any ship the pilot flies but only while in FW and only until they leave FW again. Also a permanent medal which goes with the pilot regardless.

Titans sit in a staging system until warzone control is achieved and then can be boarded by the home militia and must be permanently defended 24/7. If attacked while unmanned the defenders automatically lose an RF cycle. If it is caught without anyone in the last RF it is destroyed with only limited hull HPs and zero NPC response.


There is now a victory achievement in high sec to destroy by mounting a full scale assault on the enemies home territory.

Edit Movement. Can jump one system away in any home territory once per day. Jump takes 15min-1hour to complete and cannot be stopped by scram or disruption by the enemy. Lands randomly inside the destination system. Will help promote some strategy regarding system placements and force a bit of cat and mouse to the timer game.

from what I know, no players have ever seen Iapetan titan before.

there is photo and in-game event from what I hear, however CCP later said they were First Generation Titan, not Lapetan Titan.

titans that we can use are Second Generation Titan. So, I doubt we will see Lapetan Titan in game in short of being part of lore event.

Lore is Cathedral, not Bazaar. Your fan-fiction is not lore.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5826895#post5826895

Theres quite a few books written on the Lore aspects.

You don't get to decide what is or isn't lore. Comments that have been made in interviews are now part of Star Trek lore because someone came out and said "yeah, that fan theory? That's totally what we intended. That's cannon."

Eve has novels, and the chronicles, and then it has the players and their efforts. It's all lore, whether you like it or not.

I misinterpreted your character's date of birth due to only looking at your recent history, but I actually have been around the block a bit longer than you.

In case you do not realize, size, power and exclusivity matter not in EVE. Any person can fly a ship made of bling, but that same person will lose that ship almost instantly to a group piloting smaller ships with the know-how to tear apart bigger ships. That is how guys lose Super-Carriers and Titans outside of war-zones.

What you see as "overpowered", other players will see as a new challenge worthy of their determination and skill. There are guys who hunt down Titans and kill them for fun. And recall that CCP originally thought only a handful of Titans would be built, and look at where they are now. Thousands have been built, and hundreds have been lost.

Introduce Iapetans, and the same thing that happened with the Titans and Citadels will happen with them - incorporation into the Metagame, and battles waged over destroying them.

So no, I do not see the balance issues you speak of, because EVE players are made of tougher stuff than to let new things disrupt the meta.

This is sarcasm, right?
My sarcasm-o-meter broke years ago.

You might want to say what you mean, and mean what you say instead.
If only so someone doesnt quote you on the above as literally supporting this idea.

Mirroring someone else's comment. This item if implemented will go into the hands of the largest and most organised (thus, most powerful) alliance. Without fail.
There might be some contest after release as a fight for resources occurs, but it won't be huge.

Fast forward and this item has been created and is a system somewhere. Like the first Titans of legend, why would it be anywhere else apart from in a super safe, highly secret area? What incentive is there to risk it if there's only going to be a finite amount? I see it being a collectors item, nothing more.