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Best way to transfer skillpoints ?

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Isett
Cloud Atlas
#1 - 2017-02-24 00:26:03 UTC
I have right now nice 92mil SP full combat subcap / cap pilot / Blops etc.

In my eve career I have traded so many characters and this one I got my hands on around 2011 area. Sadly the name on it is quite bad, something on it never felt right for me. Also I feel like I want to make fresh start again.

So I'm wondering what would be best way I could transfer those SPs to new fresh made character ?

- Sell Character in Character Bazaar > Get isk > Get injectors and inject new character ?

- Get Skill extractor > Extract around 86mil SP > Use Injectors and inject new character ?

- Something else ?

If someone has done something like this, what did you do ?
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2017-02-24 01:03:50 UTC
Google the characters name, and see if in any other languages it means something that would be against the eula, then petition it. lol. Twisted
Isett
Cloud Atlas
#3 - 2017-02-24 01:12:55 UTC
Tuttomenui II wrote:
Google the characters name, and see if in any other languages it means something that would be against the eula, then petition it. lol. Twisted


I wish, sadly name is full English and does not violate anything. Ugh
Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#4 - 2017-02-24 01:18:03 UTC
I don't know why we can't PLEX for a name change...

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#5 - 2017-02-24 01:42:16 UTC
Isett wrote:
Tuttomenui II wrote:
Google the characters name, and see if in any other languages it means something that would be against the eula, then petition it. lol. Twisted


I wish, sadly name is full English and does not violate anything. Ugh

make something up and put it on urban dictionary Twisted

although racial citizen ###########s isn't really a good name either.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Amojin
Doomheim
#6 - 2017-02-24 01:46:20 UTC
Why do you want to do this? Or what, exactly are you trying to do?

I realized the stupidity of trying, at my young toon age, of cross-specialiaztion, and bought skill extractors, and that seemed to work fine. I extracted all of the Amarr skills, and repurposed them towards Gallente aims.

My name, however, did stay the same. So what? I don't feel the need to hide from you. If you hate me, then hate me. If you Wardec me, then do it. People have. So what?

If, for some reason, distribution of skills amongst various of your alts is required, skill extractors and then contracting those injectors in private contracts, seems the way to go.
Isett
Cloud Atlas
#7 - 2017-02-24 02:23:47 UTC
Amojin wrote:
Why do you want to do this? Or what, exactly are you trying to do?

I realized the stupidity of trying, at my young toon age, of cross-specialiaztion, and bought skill extractors, and that seemed to work fine. I extracted all of the Amarr skills, and repurposed them towards Gallente aims.

My name, however, did stay the same. So what? I don't feel the need to hide from you. If you hate me, then hate me. If you Wardec me, then do it. People have. So what?

If, for some reason, distribution of skills amongst various of your alts is required, skill extractors and then contracting those injectors in private contracts, seems the way to go.


Why ? Just I feel I would like to start fresh. With my own created char (named) and get out from buying characters (I haven't made my own character since 2007).

What ? I'm trying to move SP from one character (old) to another (new fresh made one) so I could lose less SP as possible by doing this. I know there will be small loss, but I'm totally ok with it. I'm wondering what would be best way to do so ?

If my math is correct pulling all the skills 92 mil SP - 5,5 SP(can't pull) = 86,5 SP

I end up 86,5mil SP / 500k per extractor = 173 skill injectors

10 injectors would take me 5mil SP (500,000 per injection)
112 injectors would take me 50mil SP (400,000 per injection)
51 injectors would take me 65,3mil SP (300,000 per injection)

This seems to be way to go, or I calculated something wrong ?

Amojin
Doomheim
#8 - 2017-02-24 02:30:28 UTC
Isett wrote:
Amojin wrote:
Why do you want to do this? Or what, exactly are you trying to do?

I realized the stupidity of trying, at my young toon age, of cross-specialiaztion, and bought skill extractors, and that seemed to work fine. I extracted all of the Amarr skills, and repurposed them towards Gallente aims.

My name, however, did stay the same. So what? I don't feel the need to hide from you. If you hate me, then hate me. If you Wardec me, then do it. People have. So what?

If, for some reason, distribution of skills amongst various of your alts is required, skill extractors and then contracting those injectors in private contracts, seems the way to go.


Why ? Just I feel I would like to start fresh. With my own created char (named) and get out from buying characters (I haven't made my own character since 2007).

What ? I'm trying to move SP from one character (old) to another (new fresh made one) so I could lose less SP as possible by doing this. I know there will be small loss, but I'm totally ok with it. I'm wondering what would be best way to do so ?

If my math is correct pulling all the skills 92 mil SP - 5,5 SP(can't pull) = 86,5 SP

I end up 86,5mil SP / 500k per extractor = 173 skill injectors

10 injectors would take me 5mil SP (500,000 per injection)
112 injectors would take me 50mil SP (400,000 per injection)
51 injectors would take me 65,3mil SP (300,000 per injection)

This seems to be way to go, or I calculated something wrong ?



Extractors are cheaper than buying injector. I believe the cutoff is as you desribed. Buying that many injectors, however, is a lot of real money. It can be done, yes. I lost about 10m SP in doing so, since I am in the <50m but >20m range. Some time was lost, and oviously, the more you extract, the more you lose, if on the same toon. Up until 30m, I think, you get full effect if a new toon uses them.
Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#9 - 2017-02-24 03:42:45 UTC
How bad is the name - care to share...?

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2017-02-24 03:43:54 UTC
The best way to purchase a high SP character is to outright buy the character on the bazaar. SP injection past 5m gets progressively worse sp/isk ratio. The downside is obviously you might not get exactly the character you wanted.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.

Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2017-02-24 03:59:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Teckos Pech
Isett wrote:
Amojin wrote:
Why do you want to do this? Or what, exactly are you trying to do?

I realized the stupidity of trying, at my young toon age, of cross-specialiaztion, and bought skill extractors, and that seemed to work fine. I extracted all of the Amarr skills, and repurposed them towards Gallente aims.

My name, however, did stay the same. So what? I don't feel the need to hide from you. If you hate me, then hate me. If you Wardec me, then do it. People have. So what?

If, for some reason, distribution of skills amongst various of your alts is required, skill extractors and then contracting those injectors in private contracts, seems the way to go.


Why ? Just I feel I would like to start fresh. With my own created char (named) and get out from buying characters (I haven't made my own character since 2007).

What ? I'm trying to move SP from one character (old) to another (new fresh made one) so I could lose less SP as possible by doing this. I know there will be small loss, but I'm totally ok with it. I'm wondering what would be best way to do so ?

If my math is correct pulling all the skills 92 mil SP - 5,5 SP(can't pull) = 86,5 SP

I end up 86,5mil SP / 500k per extractor = 173 skill injectors

10 injectors would take me 5mil SP (500,000 per injection)
112 injectors would take me 50mil SP (400,000 per injection)
51 injectors would take me 65,3mil SP (300,000 per injection)

This seems to be way to go, or I calculated something wrong ?



Well I haven't run the numbers, but since the release of skill extractors/injectors the value of a character vs. injectors has closed quite a bit. Keep in mind that injecting them into a new character will come with an increasing loss either way you go.

Go get the formula for injecting and see what works best...and keep in mind transactions costs (taxes, etc.).

My guess is pulling the SP is the way to go. Which is what you conclude above.

Keep in mind you losing just over 29% of your SP to change your name. That is just over 53 skill injectors, or somewhere in the neighborhood of 22 PLEX.

There we go, the cost of changing your name should be 22 PLEX. P

Edit: And you'll buy 42.4 billion in extractors too. Pretty expensive name change if you ask me.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#12 - 2017-02-24 05:27:11 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Pretty expensive name change if you ask me.

!!

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Problem Addict
#13 - 2017-02-24 05:34:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Problem Addict
if you want it you're going to have to look for it.
aldhura
Blackjack and Exotic Dancers
Top Tier
#14 - 2017-02-24 06:57:30 UTC
Look for JonnyPew's youtube on how he did it, he gives all the numbers you need.
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#15 - 2017-02-24 10:46:05 UTC
Another option is to do both. Use extractors to pare down your old character and then sell the old character as a dedicated toon. Apply the injectors that you have made and then see if you wish to use the isk for fun or more injectors. Tbh beyond 50mil SP on a dedicated toon is almost worthless in a sense unless you really ARE doing everything with it. At most Id say we use only a small fraction of our SP pools that any toon has for the vast majority of our actual gametime and game usage. And as the SP totals increase that fraction decreases. Ironically in the end it is actually better to use that 92mil SP and create two 30-50mil SP characters you will actually use together so you will lose less SP that way too.


But like Teckos Pech alluded thats one expensive name change.Shocked

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.

Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#16 - 2017-02-24 10:56:42 UTC
Tuttomenui II wrote:
Google the characters name, and see if in any other languages it means something that would be against the eula, then petition it. lol. Twisted


doesnt really work im affraid, ive tried it already Roll

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2017-02-24 11:17:48 UTC
but your name is naughty in english!

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy

lilol' me
Comply Or Die
Pandemic Horde
#18 - 2017-02-24 12:30:07 UTC
Isett wrote:
Amojin wrote:
Why do you want to do this? Or what, exactly are you trying to do?

I realized the stupidity of trying, at my young toon age, of cross-specialiaztion, and bought skill extractors, and that seemed to work fine. I extracted all of the Amarr skills, and repurposed them towards Gallente aims.

My name, however, did stay the same. So what? I don't feel the need to hide from you. If you hate me, then hate me. If you Wardec me, then do it. People have. So what?

If, for some reason, distribution of skills amongst various of your alts is required, skill extractors and then contracting those injectors in private contracts, seems the way to go.


Why ? Just I feel I would like to start fresh. With my own created char (named) and get out from buying characters (I haven't made my own character since 2007).

What ? I'm trying to move SP from one character (old) to another (new fresh made one) so I could lose less SP as possible by doing this. I know there will be small loss, but I'm totally ok with it. I'm wondering what would be best way to do so ?

If my math is correct pulling all the skills 92 mil SP - 5,5 SP(can't pull) = 86,5 SP

I end up 86,5mil SP / 500k per extractor = 173 skill injectors

10 injectors would take me 5mil SP (500,000 per injection)
112 injectors would take me 50mil SP (400,000 per injection)
51 injectors would take me 65,3mil SP (300,000 per injection)

This seems to be way to go, or I calculated something wrong ?




losing almost 30mill sp (1/3) seems quite a loss... is the name bad becuase of what the name is, or because of its actual eve history...
Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#19 - 2017-02-24 15:28:50 UTC
Tisiphone Dira wrote:
but your name is naughty in english!

You realize that your face (not your name) is creeping us the f**k out, right...?

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Keno Skir
#20 - 2017-02-24 16:14:13 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Tisiphone Dira wrote:
but your name is naughty in english!

You realize that your face (not your name) is creeping us the f**k out, right...?


You should hear all the childish racism he spews in-game. After that neither the face nor the forum posts really make any difference to anyone's opinion of Tisi Pirate
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