Crime & Punishment

I find it interesting then that the lowsec nullsec crybabies are complaining. If lowsec and nullsec pays even better as you say, then what are you guys whining about? Highsec incursions would seem to pay the least, and the low/nullsec crybabies are capable of using the same option as the highsec incursioneers do and farm isk from their local incursion. Infact, it's even less risky when the incursion is deep inside your own territorially owned null space. Null already has the potential for extreme amounts of isk, and it sounds like from what you said that you make even more from incursions in low/null sec then the highseccers do.

Thank you for throwing your own "It's the risk vs reward" arguement out the window and exposing yourselves for the self righteous stuck up douschebags you really are.

Clearly, and I hope the people who hadnt realized it by now can see it, you null/low sec crybabies are just bitching that theirs a new way for capsuleers to make isk without putting them in your territory to gank. If it wasnt transparent enough already (which it was) this idiot has just confirmed it. Besides, anyone with half a brain can sit in game and watch how long it takes for the low/null sec incursions to be closed out in the journal. I for one have noticed that while some of the highsec incursions are now gone, the same low/nullsec incursions that we're their a month ago are still ongoing.

I bet you dont keep an eye on local while your running incursions. Anything but a massive comparable fleet would be a waste of ISK and suicidal to even attempt to mess with you guys in nullsec while your running an incursion. It would take a fleet as big or bigger to even become a threat to you guys, and if your that deep into your own territory, you probably would have seen it coming a dozen jumps ago.

At the least your a bunch of tear jerking hipocrits, if not a bunch of spoiled, power tripping golden spooned candy ass tantrum throwing wah-bulances. Sounds to me like the true purpose behind your whining, complaining, and ending highsec incursions is just to keep people from achieving a relatively lower level of income then you do. Excuse me while I go laugh my ass off for a few hours at how your arguement has just gone from flimsy and transparent to less then one dimensional. LOL!

What's this local you speak of?

From what I understand, the issue of site farming bears less impact in lowsec and particularly 0.0.

In lowsec, "farming" the incursion sites before killing the mothership is generally inadvisable due to the supposed 'risk' of interference from pirates or other nasty people over an extended period of time; you want to get in and out of filthy pirate space and back to farming hisec sites with as few PVP related losses as possible. This may or may not change depending on how desperate people become during this so called 'blockade'.

In 0.0, you have a different issue. Let's for argument's sake consider 0.0 space as risk-free as empire - for the denizens that live in a blue territory; the problem isn't about how long you can farm the incursion in this instance, but how often you get a new incursion inside your territory (blue space). Incursions don't stay in the same constelations and there can only be so many at once; this puts a territory imposed limit on how many hours or sites an organisation can complete over any extended period of time. The payout might be a bit higher, but you can't run these things 23/7.

Meanwhile, in hisec, incursioneers are (or should I say 'were') enjoying the ability to farm incursions constantly with no risk for interuption beyond potential traitors in the fleet. BIG difference in long term payout.

Hourly income in incursions should not be affected, rather it should be the length at which such farming can be sustained that needs reconsidering. Whether or not lowsec or 0.0 incursions need a nerf though, is a different topic (this one is about hisec only).

I don't know why but the hisec incursion organisations remind me so much of the 'end-game' players in SWTOR.


To this extent, props to the guys and gals participating in the blockade, you're what EVE is all about

Implying no actual PvPers have gone to highsec to do incursions.
Who cares about the carebears anyway they can't fight for ****.

We would have gained lulz

I got a good level of comprehension, i just didnt want to read 30 pages and make a qualified conclusion like the rest..

im just asking the topic starter a simple question he can not answer publically apparently.

fyi: pvp'ers that have gone to highsec for incursions are carebears, just to clarify your comprehension.

I fully endorse this product and/or service. Good on you all, keep those incursiosn short and sweet lads.

It still seems most of the goals from this are directly whine, the few answers i got point more to the removal of highsec incursions because the low and nullsec people are butthurt over carebears are making isk.

It was the same with missions, anoms ect. ect.

Your answer did not satisfy my question as its just a goal and not what you will have gained from this goal.
If its more presence in low/null, why not say that.. im still saying that its not gonna happen for the bears, which you directing this whole thing against in your first post.

Can i conclude your only gain are low to some movement of previous pvp'ers to null and low and some lulz then?

else feel free to fill up some more arguments as this is such a good beneficial idea for the eve community as you so proclaim.

edit: seeing as good reasons are not excactly raining from the skies, ill give this project about 2 weeks before it dies out due to no direct gain or goal...
Seeing a somewhat recruitment for it already tells me you have a problem getting people for your fleets.

Stop assuming things that are incorrect and start posting on it, else feel free to quote me on that.

Only strengthenen my theory on your lack of gain from this, seeing as your only argument are still whine over risk vs reward.
Im only trying to determine how useless this project is, so i can plan when my alt can run highsec incursions again.
If the arguments are as poor as yours, that wont take long luckily.

looooooooooooooooooooooooooool, the mastecarebear wants all mom sites for himself. best try of a communityscam i saw for a long time....... whoever takes part on these fleets is ******** as hell.
when will ppl stop whining about stuff around instead of fixing their own matters?