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[MITG] Public statement on Operation Ikaheka Freedom
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Jev North
Doomheim
#1 - 2017-02-18 16:01:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Jev North
Late last week, a thorny situation came to the attention of the Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group.

Shortly after one of our former brothers in Pyre joined the Akagi Initiative, currently under contract with the Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive, his former CEO Taisho Xun Yu of Sanxing [SANXI] attempted to exert diplomatic pressure on Akagi Initiative to fire said pilot, citing alleged earlier crimes against Sanxing security forces.

Considering this to be an intolerable breach of this pilot's honor and right to self-determination over the trivial matter of a small number of baseliner deaths, and preferring not to exert counter-pressure on respectable entities like I-RED or Akagi, we decided instead to reduce the credibility and potential impact of Sanxing sanctions by complete destruction of any and all of their in-space assets within our reach.

After a flurry of declarations and counter-declarations, and a surprise engagement with Electus Matari forces during the second vulnerability period of Sanxing's Astrahus citadel over Lirsautton V, this operation is now concluded with the destruction of said citadel, as well as all of Sanxing customs offices in the Lirsautton system, to little or no opposition.

Despite being among the opposing forces, we wish to extend our respect to Electus Matari, for its swift and surprising response. We also (grudgingly) commend Sanxing for the foresight of evacuating its citadel and other orbital hardware as soon as their destruction appeared certain, thus avoiding a great deal of graceless baseliner death.

With this, we consider the matter concluded.

Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.
Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#2 - 2017-02-18 16:23:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Kalaratiri
I would like to add my own acknowledgement of Electus Matari's bravery on the field, engaging both outgunned and outnumbered. It was good to see some of my old corp-mates in space again.

She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.

This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums.  - CCP Falcon

I don't remember when last time you said something that wasn't either dumb or absurd. - Diana Kim
Kolodi Ramal
Sanxing Yi
#3 - 2017-02-18 17:23:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Kolodi Ramal
For anyone reading who shares Sanxing's humanitarian priorities:
An allied individual (who wasn't interested in being named) deployed an MTU net on our behalf to prevent oversized debris from reaching the atmosphere of Lirsautton V.
Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#4 - 2017-02-18 17:26:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Kalaratiri
Kolodi Ramal wrote:
For anyone reading who shares Sanxing's humanitarian priorities:
An allied individual (who wasn't interested in being named) deployed an MTU net on our behalf to prevent oversized debris from reaching the atmosphere of Lirsautton V.


It's fine, we salvaged the wreck anyway Big smile

We're not monsters.

She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.

This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums.  - CCP Falcon

I don't remember when last time you said something that wasn't either dumb or absurd. - Diana Kim
Jev North
Doomheim
#5 - 2017-02-18 17:32:29 UTC
Kalaratiri wrote:
We're not monsters.

We're monsters who need to recoup ammo costs.

Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.
Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#6 - 2017-02-18 18:27:50 UTC
Kolodi Ramal wrote:
For anyone reading who shares Sanxing's humanitarian priorities:
An allied individual (who wasn't interested in being named) deployed an MTU net on our behalf to prevent oversized debris from reaching the atmosphere of Lirsautton V.

You refused to help victims of the Butcher's atrocities because SFRIM wouldn't free them. Priorities.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#7 - 2017-02-18 18:45:52 UTC
Alizabeth Vea wrote:
Kolodi Ramal wrote:
For anyone reading who shares Sanxing's humanitarian priorities:
An allied individual (who wasn't interested in being named) deployed an MTU net on our behalf to prevent oversized debris from reaching the atmosphere of Lirsautton V.

You refused to help victims of the Butcher's atrocities because SFRIM wouldn't free them. Priorities.


Why would anyone opposed to such things help Imperials feed the slave markets that fed the Clown in the first place? Don't be ridiculous.
Avio Yaken
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#8 - 2017-02-18 19:09:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Avio Yaken
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Alizabeth Vea wrote:
Kolodi Ramal wrote:
For anyone reading who shares Sanxing's humanitarian priorities:
An allied individual (who wasn't interested in being named) deployed an MTU net on our behalf to prevent oversized debris from reaching the atmosphere of Lirsautton V.

You refused to help victims of the Butcher's atrocities because SFRIM wouldn't free them. Priorities.


Why would anyone opposed to such things help Imperials feed the slave markets that fed the Clown in the first place? Don't be ridiculous.



Already with this slavery debate bullshit?

(.___________________________________________.)/
James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#9 - 2017-02-18 19:26:40 UTC
Jev North wrote:
With this, we consider the matter concluded.


Unfortunate, many also considered the matter closed. Until this statement. Such actions are seldom concluded cleanly or without cost. You would have done better to have enjoyed your victory in silence.

“Here also are the heralds of his praise."
Zanzibar Heroshima
Daeuuas.
#10 - 2017-02-18 19:33:29 UTC
James Syagrius wrote:
Jev North wrote:
With this, we consider the matter concluded.


Unfortunate, many also considered the matter closed. Until this statement. Such actions are seldom concluded cleanly or without cost. You would have done better to have enjoyed your victory in silence.


Much like an Astrahus, words are cheap.
Jev North
Doomheim
#11 - 2017-02-18 19:36:16 UTC
It's a statement of cessation of hostilities on our part. If you want to pursue this conflict further, well -- your decisions are your own. Although they, too, will have consequences.

Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.
Onesimus D
Achura-Waschi Exchange
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
#12 - 2017-02-18 19:44:17 UTC
James Syagrius wrote:
Jev North wrote:
With this, we consider the matter concluded.


Unfortunate, many also considered the matter closed. Until this statement. Such actions are seldom concluded cleanly or without cost. You would have done better to have enjoyed your victory in silence.


That's nice.
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2017-02-18 19:55:36 UTC
I was truly sad to see Minmatar loss of life and assets in this conflict. However I can respect Electus Matari for their valiant aid of their friends against overwhelming odds.
Kolodi Ramal
Sanxing Yi
#14 - 2017-02-18 20:23:37 UTC
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:
I was truly sad to see Minmatar loss of life and assets in this conflict. However I can respect Electus Matari for their valiant aid of their friends against overwhelming odds.

The absence of those who died can't be filled. As long as we live and longer, we'll be thankful to Electus Matari.
Through a neutral party we made sure survivors were safeguarded and remains were retrieved. Family and clan funeral traditions are being facilitated.
Karmilla Strife
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#15 - 2017-02-18 20:24:00 UTC
It's good to see old friends stick up for one of our own.
Khiel Yat Ojin
Sanxing Yi
#16 - 2017-02-18 20:31:08 UTC
I would also like to extend my thanks to the Electus Matari. A person’s honor can only be breached or magnified by their own choice of action, and by bravely flying as they did to our aid, against even an overwhelming show of force, they have demonstrated theirs to be both true and courageous.
Syenna Celeste
Sunny Weather Mercenaries
The Initiative.
#17 - 2017-02-18 20:37:44 UTC
Khiel Yat Ojin wrote:
I would also like to extend my thanks to the Electus Matari. A person’s honor can only be breached or magnified by their own choice of action, and by bravely flying as they did to our aid, against even an overwhelming show of force, they have demonstrated theirs to be both true and courageous.


Hear hear. A well chosen ally and a fine opponent.

Put your hands around my heart and squeeze me until I'm dry.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#18 - 2017-02-18 21:22:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
It is still unclear, what pilot honor was under question and what sort of crimes did he or she commit? Were they real crimes or slanders?

Shouldn't the crimes be investigated first before making decisions? I don't know about Akagi policies, but in Caldari State corporations very thoroughly study candidatures, especially if they were known to change allegiance, and all alleged claims about any of their crimes are investigated.

Of course I am not saying that Akagi should follow Caldari protocols (more to show that Caldari system is more efficient than Akagi's). What I am going to say, that considering the message that was delivered is looking as a justification or even an excuse for the initiated attack, hiding core facts look more than suspicious.

And while I applaud for the destruction of any Federal-aligned property, I do question ulterior motives of such attack, because, honestly, it looks at the moment mere as a typical pirate extortion attempt, hidden behind unverifiable words.

If you don't like that form of.... aura, maybe you could provide us with more information about the case, so the readers of IGS could make the judgment based on facts, and not words.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
DeadRow
Blue Canary
Watch This
#19 - 2017-02-18 21:49:07 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
honestly, it looks at the moment mere as a typical pirate extortion attempt, hidden behind unverifiable words.


If we wanted to extort something out of Sanxing surely we would have done so before we blew up their stuff? No, a pilot in good standing with us was slighted so we took appropriate action as we saw fit.

-Hikari
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#20 - 2017-02-18 21:53:52 UTC
DeadRow wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
honestly, it looks at the moment mere as a typical pirate extortion attempt, hidden behind unverifiable words.


If we wanted to extort something out of Sanxing surely we would have done so before we blew up their stuff? No, a pilot in good standing with us was slighted so we took appropriate action as we saw fit.

-Hikari

It still doesn't answer the questions. Please don't prevaricate and give us some facts. Who was it? What did he or she do? Was it investigated? What did investigation show?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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