EVE New Citizens Q&A

Like for example does it cost you more so to learn a given skill once you reach certain sp threshold. Like a character with 80m will take longer to learn say gunnery 5 than a 500k sp character?

Hope I explained it properly

Thanks in advance

There IS a penalty for INJECTING skills.

If you have, you get:
under 5 million points, the full 500k points in the injector
5-50 million points, 400k per injector
50-80 million, 300k per injector
more than 80 million, 150k per injector

We used to have a penalty for training a lot of skillpoints: when podded, we used to have to pay to re-purchase a clone of high enough "quality" to hold the skillpoints trained thus far. So as soon as we got killed, we'd have to pay anywhere between a few million to a few hundred million ISK to re-purchase a high enough grade clone. Otherwise if caught in a basic clone and podded again, we'd lose 5% of trained skill points.

They got rid of this mechanic a couple years ago.

You still lose skills for Strategic Cruisers when you die, do you not?

From a practical perspective I agree with Memphis, from a purely technical point of view what she posted is not specifically they truth. Let me explain.

There is a base rate at which characters can train skills and that base rate never changes. Everything else that may affect training speed is simply a multiplier, however at this point I prefer to say a modifier since some changes will increase your training rate while others will reduce it.

Attribute remapping can speed up training for some skills, but that is offset by slowing the rate at which you train other skills so there is a trade off to using attributes as a way of increasing training speed. As a side note because of this trade off nature of remapping I recommend that new players leave their attributes at default for the first few months while the get a feel for the game and what they want to do.

Attribute implants can boost training speed without the negative impact that remaps may have, and when used in combination with remaps will get you to the fastest training speeds possible.

Now to your question about a training multiplier.
The answer is yes there are training time multipliers associated with the skills in EvE. CCP even calls them a training time multiplier in the show info box in game, Memphis is correct that these training time multipliers are based on a rank structure although I find that most players have an easier time grasping this if you call it a tiered structure. CCP assigns each skill a rank, and all skills with the same rank will have the same training time multiplier.

There are many good web sites out there that go into more depth on the skills and training aspects of EvE, I always liked the EvE University page as a good starting point.

Worth emphasizing is that you only loose the skill points if you are in the ship when it blows up. Ejecting from the ship prior to it blowing up eliminates skill point loss.

Nope. I recently scored a free Nag when the pilot ejected. You do get a killmail even if the pilot ejects, which might be what you are thinking of.

As I stated in my last post from a practical perspective Memphis and you are correct, higher tier skills require more SP so they take longer to train. How much longer they take to train is determined by a training time multiplier. Ignoring the character side of the equation since this topic is about training time multipliers and move on to the skills themselves.

At the core level all skills in EvE require the same amount of SP to advance from level 0 to level 1, the same amount of SP to advance from level 1 to level 2 etc until we get to level 5. As we move on I want to use the remote armor repair systems and the capitol remote armor repair systems skills as the examples.

If they both have the same basic SP requirements why does it take longer to train the capitol skill? The answer is that training time multiplier that both you and Memphis insist does not exist, you know that training time multiplier listed in the show info dialog of every skill in the game so some math.
If BSP = base SP needed for advancement from one level to the next we get these.
Remote skill is BSP x 2 = SP needed to advance because remote armor rep has a 2x training time multiplier.
Capitol remote is BSP x 10 = SP needed to advance because the cap skill has a 10x training time multiplier.

This system is elegant, extremely flexible and yet it requires an absolute minimum of database space to make it all work.
Instead of storing values for each of the 5 levels and for every skill in the game each skill only needs to store the training time multiplier. If they want to slow down or speed up training game wide and for all skills instead of having to change thousands of entries they only have to change one.

I think if I read your question right, the base SP/hour doesn't change if your character was 50,000 SP or 100,000,000 SP

Remapping towards the skill you are training, attribute enhancing implants, special boosters from events are the only ways your SP rate can increase.