Missions & Complexes

Hello!

I am new to the game, I like doing missions and was wondering if there is such a thing as a 100% tank fit and 100% damage fit or is there always room for tank and damage on the same ship?

Thank you for any information you can give me.

nope, 100% tank, well you can't complete almost all of the missions without any damage, I suppose technically there are a few and you could do them, but it won't be fun or profitable.

100% damage, well that actually kinda works. In lower level (1-3) missions you can do enough damage that you kill every npc before you run out of hitpoints. it works in a bunch of lv4s too, but maybe not a good general strategy.

every ship should want a bit of both. I favor damage, most of my ships have a resist mod or two and a rep for tank, typically a 200-300 ehp/s tank on top of ~50k ehp. I mostly rely on damage to clear the field before I run out of hitpoints. I just wrote a post about an old rule that said for level 4 missions your dps and your tank should total 1000, with a suggested minimum of 300 for either. and of course anything over 1000 combined is great. Typically a low dps ship needs a higher tank because it will have trouble clearing the npcs so it is in the mission longer and takes more hits. and on the opposite a high dps fit can use its buffer for tank as it clears the field quickly and repairs the buffer while taking less damage.

some people want the tank because they might have to go afk at any moment, or just want to chill out while they watch some explosions in space.

That doesn't quite work since in most missions the rats can switch aggro.

compared to others i seem to overtank my pve ships but i can still chuck out a shedload of dps too

my usual raven in lv4 guristas missions does 915dps,has application mods, 450hp/s tank with a 100000 effective tank according to eft. also has 30 min cap with everything running. the one thing i do always sacrifice is a prop mod though.... i could fit an xl booster for more tank at cost of cap, but sadly i have crappy internet so i need to be cap stable or i lose my ships

the joy is finding a fit that is fun for you and reasonably effective

That way of tninking suggests you came here from playing other games. In EVE there is no dedicated "tank" nor "damage" ship (there's a "healer" though, just not for missions). As pointed already you need both damage and tank. Since you're new you'll be going for as much tank as you can, so you don't die, and then trying to put enough damage to be able to kill stuff. Later when you improve your skills and gain experience you will naturally drift into opposite direciton: dishing out as much damage as you can while having as small tank as possible while still allowing you to survive.

I don't use missile ships myself but I happen to know that Drake is very common go-to ship for inexperienced mission runners. It's capable for running Level 3 missions and with care, some Level 4s. It should be good choice for time when you learn your ropes and master all required skills.

To the question of tank. Passive tank is easier because it just works. The price is that it occupies more slots which otherwise you could use for improving both raw damage and its application. The active uses less modules for the same level of protection but it's something you have to keep you eye on. Typical evolution of mission runners is to start with passive or with cap stable active and later go to unstable active.

Take your time. Start with something safe but always keep pushing boundaries.

Hope this helps.

I guess this will have to be the way then. Just run pretty much the same on both if rats are going to be splitting up aggro. I was hoping to be able to focus just tanking skills on one of them and just dps skills on the other, but from what you guys are saying that wont work too well.

someone told me npc like to target ewar ships over others so if u have something like ecm or target painter they will target that ship over the other not sure if true or not

You mentioned two clients, I would therefore recommend two buffer fitted Deeps beasts. As said above, attack is the best form of defence and will net you a lot more ISKies than boring 1k tank ticklers...

Just my 2 cents

I run heavy tanks on my ships to include my paladin. just the other day my client stopped in the middle of blockade. if I had been running my golem I or some of my other heavy dps ships I would have been dead. I prefer caution when things can go as not planned in missions like being permajammed by a frig that you cant kill because it got under your guns or is 95 kms away and you have blasters.

With mobile depots you can do both. Start off with 100% damage shoot some guys, switch to full tank to rep up, then back to full damage. It works in some situations. I used to do it effectively with a RattleSnake in Wormholes. I know you were asking for missions but the same concept applies.