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Ren Saaro
True Paradise
#41 - 2017-02-14 23:50:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Ren Saaro
Sinjin Mokk wrote:


No. There is no credible evidence to support that this was an attack or that Omir, Sansha, the Cartel, Serpentis, Rabbit, Nauplius, Diana Kim or a band of enraged fedos had anything to do with this.

Hence why I suggested we deal with the emergency BEFORE the witch hunt.


Oooh Mr. Mokk ... so naive ... it already is a witch hunt.

It is clear that the citizens of each Empire have lost their trust in the government to resolve this outbreak and are already taking matters into their own hands. And who would blame them? The four "Great" Empires of this universe didn't see this attack coming and did a poor job of containing it. Millions of innocent lives will now be lost just because of their failures.

My heart is in pain to see so many talented minds fade away.

But do not despair ... there is another Empire out there. An Empire you can trust ... and with a strong government that never fails!

"When there is no enemy within, the enemies outside cannot hurt you."
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#42 - 2017-02-15 00:05:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Ren Saaro wrote:
... and with a strong governement that never fails!


If, as seems a little likely from context, you're speaking of Nation, Ms. Saaro, I seem to remember Sansha Kuvakei has a little history of "failing" to give the population at some of his hidden facilities sufficient initiative to forage for food if they found themselves cut off. A lot of facilities starved slowly to death in hiding, for no better reason than because they couldn't muster the self-determination to go and find food to feed themselves.

If you're going to treat a person as a god and trust your whole being to him both as individuals and as a society, it seems a little important for him to be up to the task. Unfortunately, that would probably require an actual god, as opposed to a limited and fallible human being.

Or a limited and fallible collection of them.
edeity
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
Crimson Inquisicion
#43 - 2017-02-15 01:51:43 UTC
Kyonoke is obviously the cover story for something else. Chosen because it explains why extreme quarantine measures must be enacted swiftly. Wake up sheeple.
Slayer Liberator
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#44 - 2017-02-15 02:52:45 UTC
Doctor Valate wrote:
Hmm. Well, at least now we know it's not the Debylian Flu. That simplifies things.

Now, there's a few possibilities here, none of which are particularly pleasant.

1st possibility - Someone was researching the Kyonoke agent, and their containment failed, leading to an accidental outbreak, that was then spread by the normal processes of interstellar trade and commerce. Oopsie.

2nd possibility - Someone, (or multiple someones), has the Kyonoke agent, and released it in several different locations as an attack on the entire cluster. You'd have to ask who'd benefit from that, and there are 2 main suspects that I can think of right now. Sansha's Nation, and the Drifters. Oh dear.

3rd possibility - The Kyonoke agent is not unique to Kyonoke Pit, and is in fact abundant throughout space. This is perhaps the most worrying possibility.

If it is the Drifters then is may have been to drive cappsuleers into Anokis for some reason
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2017-02-15 04:06:37 UTC
Seal your ships and check the shield integrity.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.
Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#46 - 2017-02-15 05:53:55 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
A lot of facilities starved slowly to death in hiding, for no better reason than because they couldn't muster the self-determination to go and find food to feed themselves.


One does not blame an arm for death when the arteries are severed.
Ascentior
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#47 - 2017-02-15 06:07:22 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Aria Jenneth wrote:
A lot of facilities starved slowly to death in hiding, for no better reason than because they couldn't muster the self-determination to go and find food to feed themselves.


One does not blame an arm for death when the arteries are severed.

Correct.

One would most certainly blame the brain when the arm makes no effort to move away from the slowly approaching, yet inevitable path of the blade that severs those veins.

Admiral of PIE Inc., Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris (See 'PIE Public' for recruitment)

Honorary Fabricator-General of the Imperial Navy

Chosen by God to serve the Empire.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2017-02-15 06:07:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Aria Jenneth wrote:
A lot of facilities starved slowly to death in hiding, for no better reason than because they couldn't muster the self-determination to go and find food to feed themselves.


One does not blame an arm for death when the arteries are severed.


And there's the problem. In the Nation, they aren't considered living beings but as another limb. Or rather, a tool.

A truly living entity will be able to strive for survival when pressed. Even a bacteria, a single cell organism with no evidence of having any kind of consciousness, is still capable of adapting, mutating and do whatever it takes to survive under immense environmental stress. They will even take up plasmids of their fellow bacteria and use any gene sequence to produce proteins to give themselves the edge to survive at any opportunity. These True Slaves aren't capable of that. They are mere puppets of flesh and bone with no will of their own. I do not consider them living.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Saya Ishikari
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#49 - 2017-02-15 11:47:28 UTC
Galm Eskola-Fae wrote:
Understandably the revelation that all of these outbreaks are caused by Kyonoke Plague might make many baseliners and even empyreans nervous to go into these high-risk areas.

I assure anyone living near the Muttokon site, my warclones aren't going anywhere. The infection is thoroughly contained, and even if it should break containment infection is of little consequence to an immortal soldier. We will continue to standby the local civilians, help maintain order, and ensure that basic sanitation and healthcare services continue to be provided to prevent the risk of further spread of this disease.

Take care, friends.

I'm going to be largely busy regarding this mess, but if you want a shipment of emergency aid supplies before I get completely committed, I can manage that. Call it the first response of the assistance I've offered prior to now.

"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
Miyah Avaritia
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2017-02-15 13:36:57 UTC
If I recall correctly, there was previous mention of three ships attempting to gain access to the pit but were shot down, The Caldari Navy confirmed they were destroyed.

It is the first headline on the ticker of the Scope news broadcast about the M-0EE8 Keepstar defence preparations.
Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#51 - 2017-02-15 14:25:27 UTC
Miyah Avaritia wrote:
If I recall correctly, there was previous mention of three ships attempting to gain access to the pit but were shot down, The Caldari Navy confirmed they were destroyed.

It is the first headline on the ticker of the Scope news broadcast about the M-0EE8 Keepstar defence preparations.


Good catch. And disturbing. I think most of us glanced that brief mention and promptly... forgot?
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#52 - 2017-02-15 16:13:55 UTC
Alizabeth Vea wrote:
I am predisposed to believe it's Tibus Heth's head on a robot body, actually. Now that you've mentioned it.


Beat me to it.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#53 - 2017-02-15 16:19:11 UTC
Lunarisse Aspenstar wrote:
Miyah Avaritia wrote:
If I recall correctly, there was previous mention of three ships attempting to gain access to the pit but were shot down, The Caldari Navy confirmed they were destroyed.

It is the first headline on the ticker of the Scope news broadcast about the M-0EE8 Keepstar defence preparations.


Good catch. And disturbing. I think most of us glanced that brief mention and promptly... forgot?


While the official report suggests it was unsuccessful. Is it possible for this to be wrong as well?

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#54 - 2017-02-15 16:22:04 UTC
While Sansha may require live subjects, the Drifters do not, and they are known to collect corpses to repopulate. If they need more bodies, what better way to make them than to use a biological weapon to quickly and effortlessly wipe out a significant population?

Ofc, they would still have to collect said corpses. So maybe watch out for Drifters.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Doctor Valate
Delve Medical Services
#55 - 2017-02-15 17:45:47 UTC
I feel I have to point something out at this stage.

If this Kyonoke agent is confirmed in the other incidents, than pilots must be aware of what it is they may be asked to do to help by the relevant authorities.

They will not be requiring logistics, or medical supplies, or other such help.

They will require capsuleers to, without mercy, hunt down any unauthorised vessel, civilian or military, attempting to flee the containment zones.

Pilots must be aware that such measures may be what is required to contain the situation, and if they are not comfortable with the idea of firing on unarmed civilian vessels, then they must stay out of the quarantine zone.

Pilots must be aware that every vessel that is allowed to escape could cause the deaths of not millions, but possibly billions, or even trillions of other people.

You may not be able to live with yourself if you shoot down a ship carrying a hundred innocents, but what if those passengers go on, and infect New Caldari Prime ? Or Gallentia ? Or Matar ? Or Athra ? Could you live with yourself then, if you allowed that to happen ?

Be Aware that you may be required to shoot innocents, to protect billions more.

If you're not comfortable with that, then stay away from the quarantine zone. Your presence would only be detrimental.

Doctor Valerie Valate. Not to be confused with the other Valerie Valate.
Victoria Grey
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2017-02-15 18:09:28 UTC
Doctor Valate wrote:
I feel I have to point something out at this stage.

... ...

Be Aware that you may be required to shoot innocents, to protect billions more.

If you're not comfortable with that, then stay away from the quarantine zone. Your presence would only be detrimental.


Your message is sobering Doctor. Very sobering indeed. I don't think this is something that will be comforting or comfortable for any but the madmen out there.

However...Honestly I must think on this.

Ultimately I pledge my life to the safety of all Matari. It's not about what is comfortable, it is about what must be done for safety of my brothers and sisters. I could never forgive myself if I didn't do all I could.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#57 - 2017-02-15 19:40:40 UTC
Doctor Valate wrote:
I feel I have to point something out at this stage.

If this Kyonoke agent is confirmed in the other incidents, than pilots must be aware of what it is they may be asked to do to help by the relevant authorities.

They will not be requiring logistics, or medical supplies, or other such help.

They will require capsuleers to, without mercy, hunt down any unauthorised vessel, civilian or military, attempting to flee the containment zones.

Pilots must be aware that such measures may be what is required to contain the situation, and if they are not comfortable with the idea of firing on unarmed civilian vessels, then they must stay out of the quarantine zone.

Pilots must be aware that every vessel that is allowed to escape could cause the deaths of not millions, but possibly billions, or even trillions of other people.

You may not be able to live with yourself if you shoot down a ship carrying a hundred innocents, but what if those passengers go on, and infect New Caldari Prime ? Or Gallentia ? Or Matar ? Or Athra ? Could you live with yourself then, if you allowed that to happen ?

Be Aware that you may be required to shoot innocents, to protect billions more.

If you're not comfortable with that, then stay away from the quarantine zone. Your presence would only be detrimental.


Should that indeed be the case then I will be ready for that eventuality too. And then cosmos will burn like never happened before.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
Gorion Wassenar
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#58 - 2017-02-16 00:14:02 UTC
It is completely reasonable to be prepared at this stage to come to the very real conclusion that the whole planet, maybe even the whole system, is compromised. I implore anyone at that stage to not let mercy stay your hand. This is a plague that is as bad as it gets.

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Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2017-02-16 00:21:29 UTC
I've never been particularly altruistic, but something like this is a very real threat, I'd be willing to put my guns to the cause if it comes down to it. although some compensation for my ammo stores from concord would of course be appreciated.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#60 - 2017-02-16 00:57:53 UTC
Casserina Leshrac wrote:

Should that indeed be the case then I will be ready for that eventuality too. And then cosmos will burn like never happened before.


Don't be silly. A city? A few orbital installations? Greater numbers than those represent get killed every day in space. The cosmos will never notice the extra bloodshed.