EVE General Discussion

The problem is no one would use them - since these are intended to replace outposts, if they don't offer some measure of asset protection no one, and I mean no one, would ever put one up except as a joke.

See, outposts offer perfect safety for your assets, just like NPC stations, so that when I go on vacation for two weeks, someone doesn't just come along and wipe out everything I own.

The reason they take seven days to undeploy is so that highsec corporations have to think a little longer about whether they really want to dodge that war dec, or just let it ride, since the citadel won't come out of unanchor until the first week of the dec is over anyway (and, as far as I know, you can't disband a corp while you have anchored assets in space).

Fuel use I could maybe get behind, though the argument that outposts don't currently require fuel so why should their replacement is a valid one.

What about an Enormous Container?

We want a floating castle, not a ship with limited storage.

If you are a solo player, you don't want a castle, you want a camp! GSCs, a single transport ship, mobile depot and a warship are all you need to set up a decent camp.

If you want a castle, even the smallest one, you will need to be more serious about the logistics (look at all the actual castles we know of. How many of these can maintain themselves indefinitely?), and you will need people to help defend it (have you ever seen a castle that can be defended by just one dude?). Castles are not for solo players. Just a simple camp you can set up and tear down at a moment's notice will do.

Wait, I thought this game allowed scams?

Or is there different levels of scams now being accepted? Sucks they trusted that person and put there stuff in his/her citadel lol

what i dont get is why on earth you would like to leave your orca ... orca has battle ship level tank with a healthy level of dps it can do everything exept reprocess and have industry slots or compress .. if you have a second acount you can have two orcas and refit on the fly without having to anchor stuff but in case you dont you have the mobile depo.

I'm inclined to agree with Dracones. Not everyone is prepared to accept the same level of risk, most people are fairly risk averse. Why is hisec the most heavily populated area while it's also the least profitable (for most players)? Because hisec also has the lowest overall exposure to risk. CCP is walking a tightrope in regard to how much risk players are prepared to accept. Too much risk and players walk away from the game, too much security and actions no longer have meaningful consequences.

As for needing some new type of structure for this, if an Astrahus citadel is too expensive (around 1.2 billion average price at the moment), there's the Raitaru engineering complex (around 750 million average price at the moment) and the new drilling platforms coming in the Fall. A Raitaru costs around 100 million less than an Orca and an Astrahus costs about 300 million less than a Bowhead. Obviously a Raitaru/Astrahus doesn't have the mobility of an Orca or Bowhead and needs time/fuel to bring online, but also doesn't have the storage space restrictions of a mobile ship. Sure, the role bonuses of the Raitaru and the upcoming drilling platforms aren't useful to someone who just wants a bigger space yurt, but they're not unaffordable.

If mobility is important, maybe a version of the Orca that's intended to be a smaller version of the Bowhead, Remove command bursts and the ore hold, move the ore hold space into the cargohold, ship hanger and fleet hanger. Allow tethering to it at the cost of consuming fuel or dock and repair at the cost of consuming fuel. Something like that.

Smalererer home for me is my Stratios with Mobile Depot. Its like this camping trucks that go to farthest of wild areas.

I would say Astero with Mobile depot would be like a bicycle and tent.

I've also felt like there is a bit of a gap there between a mobile depot and a small pos, when it comes to a "temporary base camp" for life in a WH.

mobile depot always seemed a little bit on the small and fragile side, yeah its great for switching out fittings but they are joke easy to scan down, and if you put one down at your safe spot you have just compromised its safety with no benefit. so they just end up getting used as a mobile refit.

my thoughts are maybe a T2 mobile depot, one that comes with a small pos like shield, takes longer to anchor and unanchor, maybe 10-30 minutes or something. requires fuel to keep the shield up. with a fairly small fuel hangar (enough for say 48 hours of fuel at a time). 24hr reinforcement time on the structure itself, but when the shield gets bashed down, then its down.

shield itself would be large enough for the mobile depot itself, and 2 decent sized ships (an orca + battlecruiser) to fit comfortably, but cramped inside it. shield hp would be low enough that even a solo battleship could bash it in an hour or so. and obviously shield would prevent targeting of anything outside of it, and couldn't be repaired from inside the shield.

would provide an actual mobile camp with some level of security to it, but would be easy enough for even a solo pilot to pop with some dedication.

Drop a mobile depot in front of me when we're in combat and see how long it takes for that sucker to get reinforced. It's literally like 2 shots.