These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
12Next page
 

Smaller er' Home
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
P3ps1 Max
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2017-02-08 16:11:02 UTC  |  Edited by: P3ps1 Max
I was wondering for the solo player(s) in Wormholes (and other areas) would there be a chance to have a small'er'er homes we could build? Maybe don't allow 7 years to blow up but at the same time cheaper than a billion iskies? Might see an increase in destruction because the current state of 7 day window and the amount of hit points sucks more than making ice tea without the sugar.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#2 - 2017-02-08 16:17:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
Citadels suck. They need to remove asset safety and the entire vulnerability scheme if they're not actively being fueled. Which also requires a minimum fuel consumption to operate them.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
P3ps1 Max
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2017-02-08 16:23:41 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Citadels suck. They need to remove asset safety and the entire vulnerability scheme if they're not actively being fueled. Which also requires a minimum fuel consumption to operate them.



asset safety isn't in Wormholes and you don't see anyone complaining.Lol. So I do agree to that point.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#4 - 2017-02-08 16:41:37 UTC
P3ps1 Max wrote:
asset safety isn't in Wormholes and you don't see anyone complaining.Lol. So I do agree to that point.

Nope. All Citadels need a base fuel operation cost similar to POS so that when they run out of fuel they can be attacked without any vulnerability windows.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#5 - 2017-02-09 02:48:21 UTC
It's called a Mobile Depot.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#6 - 2017-02-09 03:13:20 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
It's called a Mobile Depot.


Something a bit bigger than that

Anchored orca/bowhead would fit my needs cant anchor within 1000km from stuff and is invulnerable during pilot absence when pilot is in it it is not.

Few timers so ppl dont exploit like you cant anchor it if combat timer is on it needs 3-4-5 minutes to anchor so you cant do it at sign of trouble and so on...home away from home.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
#7 - 2017-02-09 03:27:08 UTC
Zynga used to make half a billion dollars a year selling the concept of virtual homes in games such as Farmville.

So there is a real demand for virtual housing, and let's face it, most people these days will only ever own a virtual house.

CCP has the idea that people want virtual homes that can be destroyed while you are asleep, stolen from and you are required to pay maintenance on.

Basically CCP takes the fantasy out of a virtual home and wants them like real life, a real life based in Detroit.

I'm not sure that people want a fantasy space home to be based on a real life in Detroit.

Sure, the people who want to burn your virtual house down, they do like having the kerosene and matches.

But I'm not sure the home owner does.

CCP has to balance a decision based on who brings them more money, which leads to some convoluted thinking. I'd hate to have their job.

All I want to do is read a book in the evening by the light of a red dwarf.

~ ~~ Thinking inside Schrodinger's sandbox. ~~ ~
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2017-02-09 03:40:24 UTC
Hir Miriel wrote:
Zynga used to make half a billion dollars a year selling the concept of virtual homes in games such as Farmville.

So there is a real demand for virtual housing, and let's face it, most people these days will only ever own a virtual house.

CCP has the idea that people want virtual homes that can be destroyed while you are asleep, stolen from and you are required to pay maintenance on.

Basically CCP takes the fantasy out of a virtual home and wants them like real life, a real life based in Detroit.

I'm not sure that people want a fantasy space home to be based on a real life in Detroit.

Sure, the people who want to burn your virtual house down, they do like having the kerosene and matches.

But I'm not sure the home owner does.

CCP has to balance a decision based on who brings them more money, which leads to some convoluted thinking. I'd hate to have their job.

All I want to do is read a book in the evening by the light of a red dwarf.


Unfortunately, Eve Online has always been a Space Somalia Simulator, so you can't do that without having lots of defenses set up to deal with them Somali with machine-gun motorboats.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#9 - 2017-02-09 05:21:55 UTC
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Few timers so ppl dont exploit like you cant anchor it if combat timer is on it needs 3-4-5 minutes to anchor so you cant do it at sign of trouble and so on...home away from home.

So like a second mobile depot...? You know you have unlimited and safe storage in stations, right?

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
P3ps1 Max
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2017-02-09 08:11:48 UTC
I'm just saying it would be cool to have more variety of homes to create in New Eden -- "Colonization of New Eden" shouldnt be geared to only 3 homes.

Maybe down the road see some skins for citadels and other structures :)
Reinhardt Kreiss
TetraVaal Tactical Group
#11 - 2017-02-09 08:29:14 UTC
Hir Miriel wrote:
Zynga used to make half a billion dollars a year selling the concept of virtual homes in games such as Farmville.

So there is a real demand for virtual housing, and let's face it, most people these days will only ever own a virtual house.

CCP has the idea that people want virtual homes that can be destroyed while you are asleep, stolen from and you are required to pay maintenance on.

Basically CCP takes the fantasy out of a virtual home and wants them like real life, a real life based in Detroit.

I'm not sure that people want a fantasy space home to be based on a real life in Detroit.

Sure, the people who want to burn your virtual house down, they do like having the kerosene and matches.

But I'm not sure the home owner does.

CCP has to balance a decision based on who brings them more money, which leads to some convoluted thinking. I'd hate to have their job.

All I want to do is read a book in the evening by the light of a red dwarf.


Sounds to me like you're playing the wrong game.
P3ps1 Max
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2017-02-09 08:40:55 UTC
Reinhardt Kreiss wrote:

Sounds to me like you're playing the wrong game.



Huh?
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#13 - 2017-02-09 08:54:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Mina Sebiestar
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Few timers so ppl dont exploit like you cant anchor it if combat timer is on it needs 3-4-5 minutes to anchor so you cant do it at sign of trouble and so on...home away from home.

So like a second mobile depot...? You know you have unlimited and safe storage in stations, right?


Orca and Bowhead are not mobile depots they can carry a metric crapton of stuff small armada of ships combined and many many more things.

Mobile depot cant store ships cant carry nothing is immobile being mobile can be plus.... say running incursions i would prefer not to use stations.... already have all gear and ships with me,some systems don't have stations etc

Convenient not safe or unlimited.......now if Bowhead is to have clone bay...not ones you can jump in to but rather use when in Bowhead it self....select clone,select ship disconnect from mother ship do your thing repeat....id settle with 4 clone slots...honest.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2017-02-09 09:11:59 UTC
As a solo pilot, I wouldn't want to stay in a wormhole for very long anyway. Just long enough to smash and grab everything in sight and turn in and get paid by the end of the day. Just give us the mobile depot to make it easier to change up fits as we go further into the wormhole to deal with potential issues and that will be grand.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#15 - 2017-02-09 09:24:54 UTC
Well tbh an orca is perfectly fine to just use as this now tbh. The only other factor is paying for the account itself which tbh is trivial these days even in game. So I dont see why this is needed, an orca is mobile and with a cloak can set up shop anywhere.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#16 - 2017-02-09 09:37:06 UTC
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
Well tbh an orca is perfectly fine to just use as this now tbh. The only other factor is paying for the account itself which tbh is trivial these days even in game. So I dont see why this is needed, an orca is mobile and with a cloak can set up shop anywhere.



I would prefer for it to become mobile base that anchor it self when pilot is not there so you can roam and go about your business wherever that might be without need to setup citadel that is vastly overkill for solo/alts or small gang of ppl.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Wolfgang Jannesen
Scrapyard Artificer's
#17 - 2017-02-09 13:04:54 UTC
Everything people are describing in here is basically on orca. It doesn't make any sense for solo players to build themselves floating cities.
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#18 - 2017-02-09 17:18:01 UTC
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
Well tbh an orca is perfectly fine to just use as this now tbh. The only other factor is paying for the account itself which tbh is trivial these days even in game. So I dont see why this is needed, an orca is mobile and with a cloak can set up shop anywhere.



I would prefer for it to become mobile base that anchor it self when pilot is not there so you can roam and go about your business wherever that might be without need to setup citadel that is vastly overkill for solo/alts or small gang of ppl.

Given that it takes a paltry 19 days to get into an orca for an alt and that paying for a second account for anyone serious about this sort of living shouldnt ever be an issue imo to fund a second account in some way simply so that you CAN go roaming when you want to.

So then the cost of training and upkeep on a second account to fly your mobile orca base is really what becomes the isk cost of this "structure."

Now a slightly cool option would be a clone vat bay lite for an orca for this sort of endevours. Perhaps 2-3 clones max with citadel style swapping options. Especially now with the added high slots such a fun little item would be priceless for nomadic peoples.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#19 - 2017-02-09 17:30:48 UTC
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
Well tbh an orca is perfectly fine to just use as this now tbh. The only other factor is paying for the account itself which tbh is trivial these days even in game. So I dont see why this is needed, an orca is mobile and with a cloak can set up shop anywhere.



I would prefer for it to become mobile base that anchor it self when pilot is not there so you can roam and go about your business wherever that might be without need to setup citadel that is vastly overkill for solo/alts or small gang of ppl.

Given that it takes a paltry 19 days to get into an orca for an alt and that paying for a second account for anyone serious about this sort of living shouldnt ever be an issue imo to fund a second account in some way simply so that you CAN go roaming when you want to.

So then the cost of training and upkeep on a second account to fly your mobile orca base is really what becomes the isk cost of this "structure."

Now a slightly cool option would be a clone vat bay lite for an orca for this sort of endevours. Perhaps 2-3 clones max with citadel style swapping options. Especially now with the added high slots such a fun little item would be priceless for nomadic peoples.


Sounds cool but all my chars can do that it's just they have far too many SP to be orca sitters thus anchor option it beats pos and citadel combined for small groups.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#20 - 2017-02-09 17:39:28 UTC
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
Well tbh an orca is perfectly fine to just use as this now tbh. The only other factor is paying for the account itself which tbh is trivial these days even in game. So I dont see why this is needed, an orca is mobile and with a cloak can set up shop anywhere.



I would prefer for it to become mobile base that anchor it self when pilot is not there so you can roam and go about your business wherever that might be without need to setup citadel that is vastly overkill for solo/alts or small gang of ppl.

Given that it takes a paltry 19 days to get into an orca for an alt and that paying for a second account for anyone serious about this sort of living shouldnt ever be an issue imo to fund a second account in some way simply so that you CAN go roaming when you want to.

So then the cost of training and upkeep on a second account to fly your mobile orca base is really what becomes the isk cost of this "structure."

Now a slightly cool option would be a clone vat bay lite for an orca for this sort of endevours. Perhaps 2-3 clones max with citadel style swapping options. Especially now with the added high slots such a fun little item would be priceless for nomadic peoples.


Sounds cool but all my chars can do that it's just they have far too many SP to be orca sitters thus anchor option it beats pos and citadel combined for small groups.

All your character slots on all accounts? Its one month of MCT on an open slot or one month from an alpha account and with a trained up alpha you can get more skills for free first if you can wait.Blink

Dont tell me an old fart such as yourself in this game cant afford another account.Twisted

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
12Next page