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2nd month in. No PVE makes this game not as fun as it should be.

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Kolpo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2017-02-07 06:17:22 UTC
Join an high sec island corp. High sec islands are regions of high sec space that are completely surrounded by low and null sec space. You can enter them with H2H wormholes: wormholes that connect an high sec island with regular high sec space. War related ship kills are rare in those regions.

It is best to join a corp with a buy back service: someone in the corp buys all your stuff in the high sec island for 80-90% of the jita buy price. He then takes the risk of transporting it(but is often an expert in this).

Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#42 - 2017-02-07 14:01:01 UTC
Kolpo wrote:
Join an high sec island corp. High sec islands are regions of high sec space that are completely surrounded by low and null sec space. You can enter them with H2H wormholes: wormholes that connect an high sec island with regular high sec space.



Or , you know, you can just go thru the low/null systems. It isn't hard.

Kolpo wrote:
War related ship kills are rare in those regions.


Ugh

Straight

Smile

Big smile

Lol

Yeah.. You are completely safe on the island. Trust me.

Roll

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.

Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#43 - 2017-02-07 14:04:20 UTC
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t5kNHiGIKGQ

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Zoubidah Al-Kouffarde
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2017-02-07 23:07:34 UTC
JD Greentree wrote:
this is a hard game to make isk in


No it's not just buy PLEX :^)

"You would not be the first "ganker aligned" player to be found to having some issues. Here's a dark secret: there are some in AG who, because of battling gankers, have managed to get to know a few of them, found they had issues, and helped them" HW

JD Greentree
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2017-02-08 00:12:16 UTC
As I did not want to draw any attention to my Corp I obviously posted with my alpha clone. :)
Thanks for the candid replies. We finally started to fight back by forming 40 man fleets. Until it is safe to do missions I will try and learn exploration and embrace PVP. Seriously though this game is experience driven and the learning curve is huge. I might be looking for a mentor in the Corp to learn more of the basics on how not to get podded.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#46 - 2017-02-08 00:23:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
JD Greentree wrote:
As I did not want to draw any attention to my Corp I obviously posted with my alpha clone. :)
Thanks for the candid replies. We finally started to fight back by forming 40 man fleets. Until it is safe to do missions I will try and learn exploration and embrace PVP. Seriously though this game is experience driven and the learning curve is huge. I might be looking for a mentor in the Corp to learn more of the basics on how not to get podded.

The learning curve is a cliff (not my anaology, but I do agree with it).

Zoubidah Al-Kouffarde wrote:
No it's not just buy PLEX :^)

Thank you Captain Obvious! Big smile

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#47 - 2017-02-08 07:13:57 UTC
JD Greentree wrote:
As I did not want to draw any attention to my Corp I obviously posted with my alpha clone. :)
Thanks for the candid replies. We finally started to fight back by forming 40 man fleets. Until it is safe to do missions I will try and learn exploration and embrace PVP. Seriously though this game is experience driven and the learning curve is huge. I might be looking for a mentor in the Corp to learn more of the basics on how not to get podded.


Being that you're in high sec I believe, I can get you that one right here for free.
When your ship starts hitting low structure align to any celestial other than the sun.
As soon as you pop hit warp. Pods warp pretty much instantly. Sticking around is what gets you killed.
Just don't linger in a spot for more then a few seconds, bounce around til your weapons timer drops... then dock up.

Free goodies for those who try to adapt.
+1 for you.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Lianara Dayton
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2017-02-09 08:39:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Lianara Dayton
If you just want to run missions in highsec you should be in an NPC corp (or perhaps a one-man corp that's unattractive for war decs). Running missions and PVE in general in EVE is only a means of earning ISK to be able to PVP. For PVP you should certainly join a corp but for missioning it's better to go it alone. It's not like cooperation is required (or even advantageous) in EVE PVE. Missions are mindbogglingly boring and predictable and mining is even worse. The only exception are incursions but I don't think you need to worry about them anytime soon.

The most important advice I can give is this: don't "burn out" by playing EVE as a PVE grinding game. It'll get boring within a month and you'll simply quit. The only reason to play EVE is if you're interested in PVP - it's the only thing that EVE does well and the main/only reason normal people stay with the game for any protracted period of time. Sure, there are some crazies that enjoy repetitive mission grinding but they are the exception. Most people get bored to tears after a month or two of PVE and will simply think the game is crap. If you want a good PVE experience then this is really not the right game in my opinion. However, the amazing (and pretty much unique) PVP experience more then makes up for that.

Join a PVP corp, get yourself into 0.0 or lowsec/FW and I'm sure you'll enjoy the game way more then if you sit in highsec for months in the hopes of earning enough to be "ready" for PVP. The truth is: you're ready for PVP right now. Fly cheap ships, enjoy the game, loot targets, live wild. In my opinion that's the best way to enjoy EVE. Blink

Also: if you join FW you can actually earn enough ISK during PVP from loyalty points to finance your PVP activity (at least if you fly cheap ships). And most decent FW corps will also provide you with free t1 ships and skills. So there's really no reason to waste your time with boring-as-heck PVE.

Lianara Dayton, Society for Peace and Unity

Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#49 - 2017-02-09 17:49:24 UTC
Learn to d-scan. Run missions in low/nullsec. High sec war-deccers NEVER go to low/nullsec. They're scared.

Remember when you're in a mission site you need to be probed out. Keep d-scan active while doing the mission and if you see combat probes then it's time to leave/dock up/safe up and cloak.

Either that, or stay docked. Or leave the corp and join an npc corp because they are the only corps that don't get war-decced.

BTW mission rewards scale inversely with the sec status of the system. You will make more isk and LP points in low and nullsec. There is risk, of course, but it's minimal unless you're in a very crowded or high traffic system.
Veyreuth
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2017-02-09 18:36:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Veyreuth
Most "Newbie" corporations are really for newbie CEOs. If you're looking to get a good start, I strongly encourage you to check out the corp "EVE University". There's quite a number of people I've met in my travels that got their start there, were taught the fundamentals, and have gone on to do great things. http://www.eveuniversity.org/

There are some game mechanics that serve a useful purpose, but can be somewhat punishing for new players. Don't let it get you down. The answer is, as many others have stated, to get into a better corporation, one that has the resources and desire to help you get established.

You might want to rethink your notion of nullsec... it's kind of fascinating, but nullsec is actually "safer" than highsec... You see a lot more organization and structure in the alliances out there. Players work together more and players become aware of who "belongs" in their area of space in order to band together when strangers come by.

As you get established, let me pass on a piece of advice I wish I had when I started out. Take PvP seriously... Set aside a certain percentage of all the ISK you make for ships you know will get destroyed, get yourself in a situation where you have friends you like to fly with, and get out there and play. PvP is EVE's equivalent to a golf course... It's where "business" relationships are made and grow. Once you get in a solid corp, if you can PvP and you make those relationships, the people you PvP with will know you, trust you, and likely open up doors to the more lucrative game activities. The most wealthy people in game don't do it alone... it's a team effort! PvP is your gateway into the good old boys network.
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