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Would TQ people accept paid attribute remaps like Eve China system?
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Pleasure Hub Node-514
Pleasure Hub Hotline
#1 - 2017-02-05 07:31:18 UTC
Basically keep the free yearly attribute remap token and offer a pay option to reset at any time with no cool-downs.

500 Tiancity points = 50 Chinese Yuan = $7.28 US dollars

https://pay.tiancity.com/eve/Service/ResetAttribute.aspx

Google Translate wrote:
Property Point Reset Description:
The attribute point reset is the EVE Online user for all non-stop status, providing the attribute point reset service platform. Each time to pay 500 points a century Tiancheng points.

Feature Description & Charges
1, the role of a role in the account to add a chance to reset the property point.
2, attribute point replacement cost is 500 points Tiancheng points / times.
3, the daily routine maintenance point attribute reset service is not available.

Attribute points to reset the account conditions
1, the normal payment, expired, demo account can be purchased. (Not including the closure account).
2, account number must have a role, not empty account number.
3, in the application operation, the account must be offline status.

Precautions:
1, through the platform to buy the property points to reset the opportunity and the game system presented a property point reset opportunity without any conflict.
Note: (System presented the property point reset: in all the properties of the system point to reset the use of finished, the system will automatically fall
Number a natural year, and then once again give the role of a property point reset. )
2, attribute point reset opportunity can be used at any time, there is no time limit and will not expire.
3, the role of the property contains the system to donate the property point to reset and purchase the property point reset, the use of priority will be consumed system properties donated
Point reset.

'One night hauler' The tell all story of a pleasure bot in Jita 4-4
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2017-02-05 07:44:18 UTC
TQ accepted skill injectors, so why not?

I'm my own NPC alt.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#3 - 2017-02-05 07:49:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
We'll accept everything CCP introduces,and loudly complain while we furiously use them.

But yeah, until attributes are removed, remap tokens available in the NES would be good.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#4 - 2017-02-05 09:00:31 UTC
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#5 - 2017-02-05 09:06:11 UTC
I've still lots of unused bonus remaps. My favourite are per / int remaps anyway. Once set, you never change it anymore.

Remove standings and insurance.
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#6 - 2017-02-05 09:13:30 UTC
It all depends on what your doing tbh. My mains I dont bother changing anymore I just skill new stuff and ignore it. Building new toons Ill often burn through all 3 remaps in a few months to get them where I want quickly and then not bother after that.

I think remaps are great for OCD people or new toons moreso than anything else. After a year or two if your really concerned about remaps you really have issues imo.

So yeah Im good with remaps being pay to use. Just let those of us that have spare remaps sell them to others as well for isk.Blink Oh and DONT take away the yearly free one.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2017-02-05 10:34:49 UTC
At this point, they'd probably accept about anything. They'd ***** and moan for a while and then just accept it.
Josef Djugashvilis
#8 - 2017-02-05 10:52:57 UTC
I suspect that remaps will soon be done away with by CCP.

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Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#9 - 2017-02-05 11:19:47 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
I suspect that remaps will soon be done away with by CCP.

Soon(tm) in CCPs case is an arbitrary amount of time between 'now' and 'end of time'.

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
Pleasure Hub Node-514
Pleasure Hub Hotline
#10 - 2017-02-05 11:19:56 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
Hey, so it works for other people already? I did not know that. Hahaha, I laugh so hard at CCP. Lol

Yes and there is also a paid system in place for name changes.

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#11 - 2017-02-05 11:39:24 UTC
Just allow unlimited remaps for Omega clones.

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Brigadine Ferathine
Presumed Dead Enterprises
Against ALL Authorities.
#12 - 2017-02-05 16:57:27 UTC
No, CCP has been pushing the limits of Micro transactions in a sub based game too much already.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#13 - 2017-02-05 17:09:02 UTC
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
No, CCP has been pushing the limits of Micro transactions in a sub based game too much already.

Oh please. You can acquire anything in-game (including PLEX and Aurum) if you're willing to work and earn it.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2017-02-05 17:16:36 UTC
Does it really matter who pays for your ingame bonuses, though? It's not like PLEX and AUR can actually be acquired from ingame activities. They all come straight out of somebodys wallet.
Mr Mieyli
Doomheim
#15 - 2017-02-05 17:45:17 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
I suspect that remaps will soon be done away with by CCP.

Soon(tm) in CCPs case is an arbitrary amount of time between 'now' and 'end of time'.


We can only hope that it will be before the heat death of the universe.

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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#16 - 2017-02-05 17:51:53 UTC
I read a long time ago on former CSM Sugar Kyle's blog that CCP is probably more likely to just 'do-away' with attributes entirely.

@lunettelulu7
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#17 - 2017-02-05 17:56:57 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
Does it really matter who pays for your ingame bonuses, though? It's not like PLEX and AUR can actually be acquired from ingame activities. They all come straight out of somebodys wallet.

The point is that you can in fact acquire everything for free if you're willing to earn enough ISK to purchase it. There will always be players with more RL money than time, so at least EVE has a system to encourage a form of wealth redistribution.

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Chihuahuaraffe
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2017-02-05 18:06:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Chihuahuaraffe
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
No, CCP has been pushing the limits of Micro transactions in a sub based game too much already.

Oh please. You can acquire anything in-game (including PLEX and Aurum) if you're willing to work and earn it.

A difference is that here if you do that you're still paying real money to CCP indirectly because the person you're buying from with ISK paid with Real Money to CCP.

In what usually gets referred to as "f2p" these days they usually follow the "in app purchases" model where you're constantly bombarded by requirements to pay money to keep playing, and while there are sometimes alternatives, they're made to be tradeoffs in time/pain sufficient to justify paying real money for a substantial number of players.

(Actually the evolved f2p model is now to target the <1% of players with obsessive personality disorders who will spend thousands of dollars on a stupid phone app. The income distribution from f2p games is now almost all from the people who spend way above the average.)
Sarmatiko
#19 - 2017-02-05 18:16:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarmatiko
I support this of course, but quite honestly whole attribute system must go because it only hits hard low-SP characters the most (personally I stopped caring about remaps after 60-80 mil SP or so - just make one plan for a year with one remap and forget about it).

But there is another thing that I want to see from Serenity and I've advocated it here since 2013: character rename service.

When this feature was introduced on Serenity 3 years ago, people here on TQ were against it aggressively with only one subjective argument against it - "consequences of your past actions tied to your nickname".
But since then we got SP-injectors and Alpha-Omega accounts - now you can create a new alt and inject any amount of SP with few clicks, effectively erasing any "bad history" you had before.
Looking at that it feels like lack of character rename service only hurt those players who want to rename own characters for legitimate reasons (typos, RP factor, out of fashion pseudo-cyrilic names like MACTEP etc).
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#20 - 2017-02-05 18:21:37 UTC
The vast majority of player suggestions are bad ideas... that is, until CCP implements them in one form or another. Then they're terrific. I still fondly recall all the discussions about removing skill books and getting reimbursement for skill points. Madness they said! And then we got skill extractors and injectors...

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