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Why is RAM selling for so cheap?

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Boozbaz
Securitech Industries
#1 - 2017-01-27 18:53:22 UTC
I'm just trying to figure out why RAM is selling for so cheap. An unresearched BPO for R.A.M.- Ammunition Tech cost about 38K isk in minerals, but the product is estimated to only be worth about 19K isk.

Looking at the price history, over the course of the past few weeks, about 15,000 units of these have sold for about 2 ISK each! Surely no one is manufacturing these at a cost of 380 ISK each and then selling them for 2 ISK each! Am I right in assuming that these must drop from PVE content?
Mijel Riak
Extensive Enterprises Space
#2 - 2017-01-27 20:24:19 UTC
RAM elements are loot drops, in addition to being manufacturerable.
GinBar
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2017-01-28 07:08:21 UTC
rebalance few months back CCP did. They made them out of thin air, so they sell under manufacturing price.
Haffsol
#4 - 2017-01-28 09:57:08 UTC
I'm still burning my stockpile prior to the changes back in.... doh, I have no idea. We're talking years, 2 or 3 at least.
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#5 - 2017-01-30 18:46:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Owen Levanth
Yeah, RAM stockpiles are all messed up. Years ago, RAM's were this weird item which would only partially used up by your jobs, like faction or T2 laser crystals. So you put your RAMs into a job, the job degraded them and then you got some of them back later.

When industry got revamped, CCP changed it so RAMs now could be used up like every other material, but to make this new system make sense, all old RAMs were turned into stacks of new, consumable RAMs. So if you had a stash of them, they suddenly got turned into a gigantic stash of the new things. This made demand drop down through the basement straight into the core of the planet.

After all this time, I still haven't used up most of my original starship RAMs, for example. The RAM-blueprint I bought two years ago hasn't seen use since then. I'm guessing it'll take 1-2 more years until every industrialist has slowly churned through their reserves. People in the meantime building more of the things is slowing this process down something fierce, of course. So don't hold your breath. P
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#6 - 2017-01-30 22:37:22 UTC
Dev Blog wrote:
After summer, R.A.M. and R.db will instead behave like any other material in the game. However, to keep loss ratios similar we will:

  • Multiply number of R.AM. and R.Db. given for each run of their respective blueprint by 100.
  • Multiply all R.A.M. and R.Db. job requirements by 100, then further multiply that number by the old damage per run percentage.


https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/building-better-worlds/

Hence the BPO now produce 100 unit batch size (was 1 unit), and all existing R.A.M. stocks were multiplied by 100.
Oriella Trikassi
Trikassi Enterprises
#7 - 2017-02-01 00:02:25 UTC
Mijel Riak wrote:
RAM elements are loot drops, in addition to being manufacturerable.


RAM gave steady but unspectacular profits until during an industry revamp it began to drop as loot again, as it had before RAM blueprints existed. Since this was undocumented and unbalanced I assumed at the time it was a CCP error.

More RAM drops as loot than is needed by manufacturers, so the surplus is reprocessed.